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Looks okay. Didn't wrinkle it up too much.
Good God that looks hideous. Like something one of those tuners like Mansory would bring out.
I don't like it a lot but kudos to Audi for finally having the balls to break with their super boring evolutive design language.
Q8, so this thing is bigger than the Q7? ie Massive? Photos make it look more midsize.
Jalopnik said it has 3 rows. Then it must be huge because the pictures make it look like it can only accommodate two rows.
For a 3 row beast, it looks pretty good. What other 3 row SUV has a coupe like profile? Assuming it starts around $80-90 thousand and the third row is good enough for kids, it'll sell well I think.
I've always thought the Mercedes GL boring looks were it's weakpoint. It's also very old in the tooth design wise. Escalade has much better road presence.
Not bad. I'm sure inmates stuck in the third row will appreciate the view.
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It is shorter the a Q7, I'm pretty certain it only has two rows.
(https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Audi-Q8-2018--fotoshowBig-ca8d81c2-1165257.jpg)
:confused: :zzz:
Quote from: Galaxy on June 05, 2018, 01:09:11 PM
It is shorter the a Q7, I'm pretty certain it only has two rows.
(https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Audi-Q8-2018--fotoshowBig-ca8d81c2-1165257.jpg)
Then why give it nomenclature indicative of a larger vehicle?
What's next? A two seat A9?
Quote from: Submariner on June 05, 2018, 01:50:07 PM
Then why give it nomenclature indicative of a larger vehicle?
What's next? A two seat A9?
It's Audi's version of the X6. A smaller, less practical, more "stylish" Q7. Similar to the A4:A5 or A6:A7.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on June 05, 2018, 10:51:48 AM
I don't like it a lot but kudos to Audi for finally having the balls to break with their super boring evolutive design language.
If this is their idea of breaking out Audi needs to reinforce the cages and build higher + thicker walls.
It's like they took the nose of a half ton pickup truck and grafted it onto a Q5. My eyes are itching.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 05, 2018, 01:54:38 PM
It's Audi's version of the X6. A smaller, less practical, more "stylish" Q7. Similar to the A4:A5 or A6:A7.
If this is their idea of breaking out Audi needs to reinforce the cages and build higher + thicker walls.
It's like they took the nose of a half ton pickup truck and grafted it onto a Q5. My eyes are itching.
Yeah the front end is throwing me off for whatever reason. Such a gaping mouth.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 05, 2018, 01:54:38 PM
It's Audi's version of the X6. A smaller, less practical, more "stylish" Q7. Similar to the A4:A5 or A6:A7.
Then this should be the Q7 and the Q7 should have been the Q8.
Or we could have ACTUAL NAMES!!!
Those back seats do not look at all comfortable.
Motortrend called this a coupe.
:wtf:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 05, 2018, 02:20:41 PM
Motortrend called this a coupe.
:wtf:
Car and Driver called this "sleek."
That is even more a misstatement.
Quote from: Submariner on June 05, 2018, 01:50:07 PM
Then why give it nomenclature indicative of a larger vehicle?
What's next? A two seat A9?
Q8 - helps it sell in the Middle East.
Other than the horrid front end, it looks good.
Quote from: Raza on June 05, 2018, 03:31:50 PM
Other than the horrid front end, it looks good.
Audi seems to have lost control of their front end design about 12 years ago when it became quite ugly; a jaw-dropping gape.
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 05, 2018, 03:09:31 PM
Q8 - helps it sell in the Middle East.
I see what you did there.......
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on June 05, 2018, 03:47:48 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 05, 2018, 03:09:31 PM
Q8 - helps it sell in the Middle East.
I see what you did there.......
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Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 05, 2018, 02:11:36 PM
Then this should be the Q7 and the Q7 should have been the Q8.
Or we could have ACTUAL NAMES!!!
No, the bigger 3 row X5 < the smaller, "stylish" X6. Same with the 3/4 series. This follows suit
Germans have always done alphanumeric soup so there's precedent, and it's not hard to follow (unlike Lincoln/Infiniti/Acura).
The big problem here is this thing is fucking hideous.
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 05, 2018, 03:09:31 PM
Q8 - helps it sell in the Middle East.
It'll flop in Iraq.
I have a hard time mustering up any strong sentiments
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 05, 2018, 02:11:36 PM
Then this should be the Q7 and the Q7 should have been the Q8.
Or we could have ACTUAL NAMES!!!
I keep wanting to call it "Kate."
Quote from: 2o6 on June 05, 2018, 05:55:01 PM
I have a hard time mustering up any strong sentiments
Stop being contrarian, it's an abomination
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 05, 2018, 08:25:16 PM
Stop being contrarian, it's an abomination
It's a little weird on the front fascia, but the rest of the car has the same proportions that Audi always uses on literally every SUV ever.
Quote from: Galaxy on June 05, 2018, 01:09:11 PM
It is shorter the a Q7, I'm pretty certain it only has two rows.
(https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Audi-Q8-2018--fotoshowBig-ca8d81c2-1165257.jpg)
You're right. The Jalopnik article incorrectly stated 3 rows but a few other sites indicated 2 rows which makes a lot more sense given it's side profile.
As an expensive two row coupe like styled SUV, it's not going to sell in high numbers compared with the Q5 and Q7.
Quote from: veeman on June 05, 2018, 10:28:29 PM
As an expensive two row coupe like styled SUV, it's not going to sell in high numbers compared with the Q5 and Q7.
It will have a much higher margin then the Q5, and Q7 though. Same reason BMW sells the X6.
Quote from: Galaxy on June 05, 2018, 10:55:46 PM
It will have a much higher margin then the Q5, and Q7 though. Same reason BMW sells the X6.
Yeah for sure. I kinda like it, this Audi.
The Mercedes AMG GLE coupe thing looks super badass. I love it.
Yea the Benz SUV coupes are cool. BMWs a little less so. This a lot less so.
I'll admit the GLE looks pretty cool. But it's not a coupe
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 06, 2018, 10:52:18 PM
I'll admit the GLE looks pretty cool. But it's not a coupe
Its a German coupe, where names don't mean anything and number of doors don't mater.
Coupe does not necessarily mean 2 door. Here's how ISO defines "coupe" (which is about as official of a definition as one can get)
In 1977, International Standard ISO 3833-1977 defined a coupé as having a closed body, usually with limited rear volume, a fixed roof of which a portion may be openable, at least two seats in at least one row, two side doors and possibly a rear opening, and at least two side windows.[25][26]
X6 etc sound pretty coupey to me
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 07, 2018, 12:20:04 PM
Coupe does not necessarily mean 2 door. Here's how ISO defines "coupe" (which is about as official of a definition as one can get)
In 1977, International Standard ISO 3833-1977 defined a coupé as having a closed body, usually with limited rear volume, a fixed roof of which a portion may be openable, at least two seats in at least one row, two side doors and possibly a rear opening, and at least two side windows.[25][26]
X6 etc sound pretty coupey to me
:hmm:
So you don't think the second row of doors count as side doors?
To me a "rear opening" is a trunk or hatch. I would consider all four of my doors to be side doors.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 07, 2018, 12:20:04 PM
Coupe does not necessarily mean 2 door. Here's how ISO defines "coupe" (which is about as official of a definition as one can get)
In 1977, International Standard ISO 3833-1977 defined a coupé as having a closed body, usually with limited rear volume, a fixed roof of which a portion may be openable, at least two seats in at least one row, two side doors and possibly a rear opening, and at least two side windows.[25][26]
X6 etc sound pretty coupey to me
Your definition kinda sounds like it necessarily means 2 doors lol.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 07, 2018, 12:20:04 PM
Coupe does not necessarily mean 2 door. Here's how ISO defines "coupe" (which is about as official of a definition as one can get)
In 1977, International Standard ISO 3833-1977 defined a coupé as having a closed body, usually with limited rear volume, a fixed roof of which a portion may be openable, at least two seats in at least one row, two side doors and possibly a rear opening, and at least two side windows.[25][26]
X6 etc sound pretty coupey to me
Two side doors.
X6 has four.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 06, 2018, 07:21:23 PM
Yea the Benz SUV coupes are cool. BMWs a little less so. This a lot less so.
....The GLE looks like ass in person. There's no glasshouse, and the proportions are fucked. Out of these SUV Coupes, (X6, GLE, Q8), the GLE is by far the worst.
Aside from an awkward front fascia, I am having a hard time seeing the "ugly" factor of this. It's got good proportions, and it looks smaller than it really is.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 08, 2018, 12:56:27 AM
....The GLE looks like ass in person. There's no glasshouse, and the proportions are fucked. Out of these SUV Coupes, (X6, GLE, Q8), the GLE is by far the worst.
Aside from an awkward front fascia, I am having a hard time seeing the "ugly" factor of this. It's got good proportions, and it looks smaller than it really is.
I gotta disagree with you sir.
https://goo.gl/images/que7sM
I've seen a bunch on the road. Almost always in silver or grey. Especially from the rear, this beast is beautiful. Brawny and sporty, especially in AMG guise with the big fat tires. Among non-exotics this is my current favorite styled car. 30 years ago it was the BMW 7 series (E32).
The only one of these SUV "coupés" which look good imo is this one:
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Of course one has to turn on the cash register just a tad more here.
Wow, amazing what a difference ~$50 in paint makes:
(https://www.audi.de/content/dam/nemo/models/q8/q8/my-2019/1920x1080-inline-media-gallery/1920x1080_%20InlineMediaGallery_AOZ_Q8_181001.jpg)
It's kind of the same color as the one referenced in the original post though?
Whatever, this last picture makes it look very good. Q5 room for Q7 price.
Quote from: veeman on June 08, 2018, 12:34:29 PM
It's kind of the same color as the one referenced in the original post though?
Whatever, this last picture makes it look very good. Q5 room for Q7 price.
I think he is referring to the gray fenders/sills.
I was talking about the nose
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 08, 2018, 12:14:10 PM
Wow, amazing what a difference ~$50 in paint makes:
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Looks A LOT better.
Although, is that photoshop to scale? Cause if so the car is tiny.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 08, 2018, 12:14:10 PM
Wow, amazing what a difference ~$50 in paint makes:
Yeah that looks a lot better.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 05, 2018, 01:54:38 PM
It's Audi's version of the X6. A smaller, less practical, more "stylish" Q7. Similar to the A4:A5 or A6:A7.
If this is their idea of breaking out Audi needs to reinforce the cages and build higher + thicker walls.
It's like they took the nose of a half ton pickup truck and grafted it onto a Q5. My eyes are itching.
Well... neither the A5 nor the A7 are smaller than their sedan counterparts and both are markedly more practical (albeit not more practical than the estate).
Quote from: veeman on June 08, 2018, 02:41:14 AM
I gotta disagree with you sir.
https://goo.gl/images/que7sM
I've seen a bunch on the road. Almost always in silver or grey. Especially from the rear, this beast is beautiful. Brawny and sporty, especially in AMG guise with the big fat tires. Among non-exotics this is my current favorite styled car. 30 years ago it was the BMW 7 series (E32).
No. He's right. GLE looks terrible.
Quote from: Xer0 on June 08, 2018, 12:45:38 PM
Looks A LOT better.
Although, is that photoshop to scale? Cause if so the car is tiny.
The model is 6'8".
Quote from: Raza on June 09, 2018, 08:01:42 AM
No. He's right. GLE looks terrible.
I drool a little when I see them. It's speed, agility, grip, and braking are all sports car like yet it looks tank like in its imposing width, height, and stance but it has a smaller footprint than Tahoes and the like. Backseat is roomy. The glasshouse is small but I don't mind it here. Also it's grill is simple relative to excess of recent Audis and Lexuses. Polarizing for sure.
When the BMW X5 first came out I drooled a little about them as well even though initially most automags said (what's the point of this again...an expensive SUV that's not designed for off-road use?)
If Cadillac had any foresight, they would have come up with one of these coupy sporty SUV things years ago. The Escalade brand has so much potential. All these Cayenne, GLE, X6, and now Q8 buyers... they want sports car looks and pseudodynamics in a tank like vault of of a giant.
The GLE looks like an overstuffed toy car. It does look good from certain angles, but not all. Never seen one in person though.
All of these SUVish pseudo-'coupés' are silly. Every single one of them.
Quote from: 93JC on June 09, 2018, 12:53:43 PM
All of these SUVish pseudo-'coupés' are silly. Every single one of them.
They're kinda fun to drive tho
Quote from: 93JC on June 09, 2018, 12:53:43 PM
All of these SUVish pseudo-'coupés' are silly. Every single one of them.
WORD!!!!!
Quote from: veeman on June 09, 2018, 12:25:19 PM
If Cadillac had any foresight, they would have come up with one of these coupy sporty SUV things years ago. The Escalade brand has so much potential. All these Cayenne, GLE, X6, and now Q8 buyers... they want sports car looks and pseudodynamics in a tank like vault of of a giant.
Pseudodynamics is a good word.
The GLEs are for people who don't feel the need to take cars so seriously. I saw one with the V8 and an exhaust in Portland. Utterly ridiculous in a good way.
Yeah, the 50 has been the 3.0T since the beginning, at least in the A8, because for some strange reasons the numbers (25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50) means different things in different models :facepalm:
Quote from: AltinD on June 17, 2018, 01:44:35 PM
Yeah, the 50 has been the 3.0T since the beginning, at least in the A8, because for some strange reasons the numbers (25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50) means different things in different models :facepalm:
😂😂😂😂😂 I thought 60 was the w12
^^ I thought so too when they first came out, but than I realized that so many W12 around would be impossible even for Dubai, so I inquired further :facepalm: