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I like these threads.

I voted S800 BTW, something unique and very fun to drive in.

The S800 sounds too old and weird, even for me. I'd rather have a Triumph Spitfire or Datsun roadster before that thing.

I chose S2000.

S2000 for me, though I'd rather have the 2.0L version.

Quote from: The Pirate on May 05, 2007, 04:57:23 PM
S2000 for me, though I'd rather have the 2.0L version.

Same here. I like the 2.0L better.

S800. Looks like a knockoff of countless English roadsters, but I'd rather something more unique than the one of the ricer-with-money cars of choices.

(I still like the S2000)

Neither.

the S800 for the engine alone.  it's a bloody work of art, mate.

Quote from: The Pirate on May 05, 2007, 04:57:23 PM
S2000 for me, though I'd rather have the 2.0L version.

I think that is the 2.0 liter version, since it's got a european plate, and the european S2000s are still using 2.0 liter engines.

Quote from: 565 on May 05, 2007, 05:56:06 PM
I think that is the 2.0 liter version, since it's got a european plate, and the european S2000s are still using 2.0 liter engines.

Good eye.  I just saw the '06 in the caption, and assumed it had the F22C1.

S2000. S800 is just too much slow for me.

S800... with a Honda Fireblade engine conversion.  :devil:

S2000

An S800 with the CBR 1100 motor would be nice. The 1300 from the Hayabusa would be better. I'm hurt to know that the Hayabusa motor isn't too far off from my car's motor power-wise.

In any case, I've driven the S2000, and while it doesn't have the raw VTEC thrill of my car it is pretty good modern sports car. S2K for me.

And you guys dump on the 2.2L... trust me, 8300RPM is still plenty high to rev to. My car goes to 7.5K or so and is a screamer.

Wasn't the S800 chain-driven?  If so, that would make for an interesting car for a 'Busa conversion.

Quote from: 93JC on May 05, 2007, 05:15:50 PM
S800. Looks like a knockoff of countless English roadsters, but I'd rather something more unique than the one of the ricer-with-money cars of choices.

(I still like the S2000)

How is the S2000 a ricer-with-money car?

It's made by Honda and there was one in the Fast and the Stoopid movie.

S2000. The S800 is pretty cool, but I think the S2000 is one of the coolest modern cars.

s800 for me

Quote from: JYODER240 on May 05, 2007, 11:25:53 PM
How is the S2000 a ricer-with-money car?

I hate when people say stuff like that. My roommate says he wouldn't drive an E46 M3 because they're usually driven by 'douches whose parents bought them for them'. Meanwhile he drives an S2000 his parents bought for him. :rolleyes:

Still, the 2002 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the E92; again, the E92 would have made an awesome Mazda or Hyundai, but it seems to have lost that German utilitarian feel.

S800 for me.  It's just cool looking...and I want that piece of wood. :lol:

I'm trying not to reply to every one, but there's so much to say! ;-) The S2000 is on my short list every time I buy a car, and if they ever get more torque than my mower, I'll own one.

Also, until you've driven a vintage car, bought/fabricated parts for it and the like, it's a romantic vision--once you've faced the realities you may still be interested, just not me...

S2000 if I had to pick.  There's quite a few roadsters from both eras I'd rather have.

S2000.

The better question though, why is everyone taking the 2.0 over the 2.2?

Quote from: MrH on May 06, 2007, 08:19:16 PM
S2000.

The better question though, why is everyone taking the 2.0 over the 2.2?

Bragging rights over revs?

I'd take the 2.2.  It seems everyone complains about the S2000 not having enough torque, then they choose the engine that doesn't have as much and has a peakier curve.

S2000 for me. There are many other older roasters I would rather have than the S800.

Quote from: MrH on May 06, 2007, 08:19:16 PM
S2000.

The better question though, why is everyone taking the 2.0 over the 2.2?

higher redline?  :huh:

Quote from: M_power on May 06, 2007, 08:23:18 PM
higher redline?  :huh:

Wow, 9000 vs. 8000.  You complain about torque and then want the the one that doesn't have as much.

Quote from: the Teuton on May 05, 2007, 10:47:57 PM
Wasn't the S800 chain-driven?  If so, that would make for an interesting car for a 'Busa conversion.

No. The S800 was a normal live axle car, designed to be cheaper to produce than the earlier chain driven IRS S600. And as for being chain driven, even the S500/S600 had a traditional transmission and driveshaft back to a centrally located differential. The chains were in trailing arms back from the solidly mounted drive axle to the wheels, a very unique and compact way of getting IRS and copious trunk space in a tiny car.

I picked the older Honda for being more unique, and an appreciating classic that is very fun to drive.

Quote from: MidnightDave on May 06, 2007, 01:01:56 PM
Also, until you've driven a vintage car, bought/fabricated parts for it and the like, it's a romantic vision--once you've faced the realities you may still be interested, just not me...

I've restored numerous vintage cars, both as personal cars and for customers. This was my latest: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cvetters3/fiat_spider.htm

It's not that hard. ;) But it's soooo much more satisfying.

Quote from: MrH on May 06, 2007, 08:19:16 PM
S2000.

The better question though, why is everyone taking the 2.0 over the 2.2?

The actual performance differences between the two are minimal: Just ask Tony Snow who spent an entire season in T2 in an AP2 S2000 chasing around earlier 2 litre cars.

The chassis on the 2.2 litre car is a little more sedate, and a little more forgiving at the limit. The engines are so close to each other in most ways its almost a mystery as to why honda even bothered changing it. The smaller engine sounds better. IMO, the earlier car looks better.

The later car has a bit more room, and has traction control with an open diff- but the early car has a helical torque sensing limited slip diff and no traction control. To me, thats the biggest difference.

Quote from: MrH on May 06, 2007, 08:19:16 PM
S2000.

The better question though, why is everyone taking the 2.0 over the 2.2?

I already drive a Honda with no torque.  :devil:  As such, I think I'd prefer the peakier motor with a higher redline.  And, per Soup DeVille's post in this thread, the AP1 is a bit more challenging at 10/10ths, which I think I'd prefer in that type of car.  I've not driven either though, so my thoughts could certainly change.


I think the earlier one looks better as well.

I picked the S2000.

Not to say that the S800 isn't a really cool car, but I can't fit in one. Seriously, its tiny. For those of you who haven't been real close up to one, or for those that may have forgotten, its downright Lilliputian. In that picture it doesn't look too small, like it might be the same size as Chris's Fiat or a Triumph. Its smaller. Think of an original Mini with no back seat and no roof and you get close to the right idea. I'd love to be able to pick it, but I won't buy a car I can't drive.

Anyways, if i was smaller and could fit, I wouldn't do anything like a 'Busa conversion or anything like that. The original four-banger looked like 1/4 of an F1 engine of the same era- four cylinders, four valves per cylinder, four single barrel Webers, 4-1 header that must have been handmade by elves. Beautiful piece of work altogether. Besides, you don't buy a car like this to make it go fast. There are any number of better choices for the makings of a mini-mini-pocket-rocket.

In any case, I still miss my S2000 in ways that are probably unhealthy and unnatural. Last week I had a dream about it- bombing around the two-lanes around Estes in it. When I woke, there was a surprise on my sheets that hadn't been there since my early teen years. Except I'd the S2K over Rebecca what-was-her-name any day of the week.

Gimme an E85 or a 987.

(You're welcome for that thoughtful post.)

:rolleyes:

Quote from: ro51092 on May 07, 2007, 09:51:19 PM
Gimme an E85 or a 987.

(You're welcome for that thoughtful post.)

:huh:

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Wiseass.

Pwnt.