Car Chat

Started by FoMoJo, August 26, 2014, 05:59:31 AM

FoMoJo

Quote from: giant_mtb on December 04, 2017, 05:32:49 PM
That was my first thought, too.  I was quite confused.  hah
Because he 'flipped' it?
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AutobahnSHO

Lol sorry guys, I guess flipping houses isn't the same as flipping cars :ohyeah:
Will

Rich

#3663


I went to cars and coffee in Columbia. Turns out a guy that works in a different department in my unit has a Lancia Delta.

He Autocrosses and does Track days. I'm looking forward to going for a ride after my deployment
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Soup DeVille

Damn.

Assuming it's a real Integrale, that's one of my top ten greatest of all time for when I become fabulously wealthy.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Rich

Yep. It's real. Was a bucket of bolts he bought in Italy. Fabbed a ton of things himself like the shift linkage, and various bits.

300hp. 2,200 lbs. AWD. I'm excited to see it fly
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Laconian

Quote from: Rich on December 16, 2017, 07:36:25 AM
Yep. It's real. Was a bucket of bolts he bought in Italy. Fabbed a ton of things himself like the shift linkage, and various bits.

300hp. 2,200 lbs. AWD. I'm excited to see it fly

Heroic feats :wub:
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Raza

Is it just me, or as time has passed, has the Nissan GT-R gotten more desirable and better looking?
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giant_mtb

Torque sticks.  Yay or nay.

93JC

Nay; use a torque wrench. Every time I've ever had new tires or a rotation done by a shop the grease-monkeys have grossly overtightened the lug nuts. I've broken a wrench trying to get a lug nut off before, and it's almost certainly because the doofus who tightened it at the shop used a torque stick.

12,000 RPM

I love my torque wrench. I'm guessing they all ratchet too... nice to have in 1/2 drive
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MX793

Get a ratcheting, click-type torque wrench.  Torque sticks are rubbish.  Every time some shop takes a wheel off and puts it back using torque sticks, I retorque myself and the torque levels are all over the place.
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RomanChariot

Most reputable tire shops will only let the techs spin the nuts on with an air gun and then they have to do final tightening with a torque wrench. The shop I usually go to requires a 2nd tech to go around the car and verify the torque on all of the lug nuts.

CaminoRacer

Quote from: RomanChariot on December 20, 2017, 04:15:50 PM
Most reputable tire shops will only let the techs spin the nuts on with an air gun and then they have to do final tightening with a torque wrench. The shop I usually go to requires a 2nd tech to go around the car and verify the torque on all of the lug nuts.

What shop?

I've gotten into the habit of taking the loose wheels in so they don't touch my car.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: RomanChariot on December 20, 2017, 04:15:50 PM
Most reputable tire shops will only let the techs spin the nuts on with an air gun and then they have to do final tightening with a torque wrench. The shop I usually go to requires a 2nd tech to go around the car and verify the torque on all of the lug nuts.

Putting a torque wrench on a second time doesn't do anything for an already overtorqued nut.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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FoMoJo

Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 20, 2017, 04:49:41 PM
Putting a torque wrench on a second time doesn't do anything for an already overtorqued nut.
Wouldn't they be more concerned about it being loose?

A friend of mine working for a local franchise CTC, said that the mechanics were told to only use a pneumatic torque wrench when tightening stud nuts at a predetermined setting.  A wheel fell off on the vehicle of one of his customers.  He always gave the nuts a couple of extra tugs with a breaker bar afterwards.
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

AutobahnSHO

Doubt shops even use torque sticks. Probably just air gun them tight.
Will

Soup DeVille

Quote from: FoMoJo on December 20, 2017, 05:09:52 PM
Wouldn't they be more concerned about it being loose?

A friend of mine working for a local franchise CTC, said that the mechanics were told to only use a pneumatic torque wrench when tightening stud nuts at a predetermined setting.  A wheel fell off on the vehicle of one of his customers.  He always gave the nuts a couple of extra tugs with a breaker bar afterwards.

Yes. But overtorqued nuts can warp brake disks and cause other issues too.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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FoMoJo

Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 20, 2017, 05:16:26 PM
Yes. But overtorqued nuts can warp brake disks and cause other issues too.
True, but he figured it was better than a wheel falling off and getting sued.
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

giant_mtb

Quote from: 93JC on December 20, 2017, 01:19:14 PM
Nay; use a torque wrench. Every time I've ever had new tires or a rotation done by a shop the grease-monkeys have grossly overtightened the lug nuts. I've broken a wrench trying to get a lug nut off before, and it's almost certainly because the doofus who tightened it at the shop used a torque stick.

Seems like it can also depend on the driver used and the user.  I watched this last night...the guy found that using his Milwaukee mid-torque impact would result in overtightening, but the high-torque impact gave accurate (enough) torque with the sticks.  I use a torque wrench but was just curious if anyone here has used them. 

https://youtu.be/6ccxHCwnQPY


Soup DeVille

Quote from: FoMoJo on December 20, 2017, 05:22:09 PM
True, but he figured it was better than a wheel falling off and getting sued.

Yep.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: giant_mtb on December 20, 2017, 05:41:48 PM
Seems like it can also depend on the driver used and the user.  I watched this last night...the guy found that using his Milwaukee mid-torque impact would result in overtightening, but the high-torque impact gave accurate (enough) torque with the sticks.  I use a torque wrench but was just curious if anyone here has used them. 

https://youtu.be/6ccxHCwnQPY

I have used them, easier than torque wrenches when you already have an air wrench at hand.
Will

CaminoRacer

If I'm using a torque wrench, it's because I want it to be exactly that torque rating. I don't trust sticks.
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RomanChariot

Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 20, 2017, 04:49:41 PM
Putting a torque wrench on a second time doesn't do anything for an already overtorqued nut.

That is true. Both techs use a torque wrench so the 2nd tech is just doing a quality check to make sure the 1st tech didn't missing any of the nuts.

68_427

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i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


Soup DeVille

What tomfoolery is this?
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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MX793

Where am I supposed to put my groceries or camping gear?
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CaminoRacer

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