300ZX Turbo Track(ish) Car Build

Started by FlatBlackCaddy, October 09, 2014, 07:46:39 AM

68_427

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on October 11, 2014, 01:44:41 PM
I found a place that sells windows for race cars. They have every window for my car. Problem is that they are located in the uk.

What's the weight savings?
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FlatBlackCaddy

I don't know, haven't found any good hard numbers yet.

I'm guessing maybe 20 lbs saved on the HUGE rear hatch glass. If I could pick up a window for a few hundred bucks I'd do it. If I come to find out it would barely be 10lbs I wouldn't waste my time.

12,000 RPM

The $/lb on that doesnt seem to add up. Plus Z32TT is already very front heavy. Light glass would lower CoG but by how much really? I'd probably put that $$$ elsewhere.
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If the company that sells it can pack it, I can ship it cheap
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hotrodalex


FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: hotrodalex on October 19, 2014, 09:28:52 AM
Got some space open on a C-17?

Hmm

:hmm:

So would you just parachute it out over my coordinates?

68_427

Quotewhere were you when automotive dream died
i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


FlatBlackCaddy

It's not bad, certainly looks nice.

I really have to get going on this. I got sidetracked with a home theater renovation that's taking up tons of time(money too of course).

Hopefully in a few weeks I'll have the theater thing wrapped up and then I can get out in the garage and spend some time getting the first stage(suspension) of this project squared away.

68_427

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i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


FlatBlackCaddy


MexicoCityM3

That red one looks hot.

FBC, Where do you track?
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on January 13, 2015, 09:59:27 AM
That red one looks hot.

FBC, Where do you track?

I've only ever been to the local(to the state) road course and a small track the local college has. I'd like to get out east to a few other tracks like Blackhawk farms, Gingerman, Autobahn and Mid Ohio. Mid America is also fairly close. Sadly, outside of BIR(which is about 2 hours away), everything else is 10+ hours away.

FlatBlackCaddy

So, I've decided to get off my ass and back on this. With 2 more cars coming into the stable and the Z project untouched over the winter I've got a metric shit ton of work to do.

So last night I got the Z back down in the garage and got my initial weight readings with my new(last fall) scales.





Not bad, IMO.

3433lbs with a weight distribution of 55/45. Should be pretty easy to work with.

I'm hoping to drop 150-200 lbs off the curb and hopefully shift the distribution back 2-3 percent. We'll see if that will happen.

Also got started on the front end, installed the steering rack bushings.

Looking over the rear I realized that installing the rear subframe and differential bushings pretty much requires dropping out the subframe. So to save time in the future I'm going to order my driveshaft and Quaife differential today(probably grab some new ball joints and tie rods too).

It's nice to get going on this, finally.

Cookie Monster

Super excited to see where you go with this.

I wish I had buckets of dough to throw at the Miata and get everything I want done to it at once.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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FlatBlackCaddy

 :hmm:

This would solve the issue I'm having with trying to get wider tires on the front and rear.

https://conceptzperformance.com/Cart/description.php?II=10180

Or not, those fender vents are kind of weird looking.

Cookie Monster

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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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2 4 R

FlatBlackCaddy

Ya, they make it look a little strange. Even if everything was painted those would stick out and look weird.

MexicoCityM3

I approve of this thread. Again.

I think losing weight overall is very doable. Improving the weight distribution will be very tough.

Where will you run it?
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on April 23, 2015, 11:57:39 AM
I approve of this thread. Again.

I think losing weight overall is very doable. Improving the weight distribution will be very tough.

Where will you run it?

A couple of places locally in my home state and hopefully at a few out east.

I'm sure I can drop atleast 150lbs, but I don't know about shifting anything rearward. I'll just have to hope that more weight comes off the front than the back in order to achieve a better weight distribution.

Cookie Monster

Trunk mounted battery and radiator.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

MexicoCityM3

Quote from: thecarnut on April 23, 2015, 12:02:31 PM
Trunk mounted battery and radiator.

Battery may be relatively easy. Radiator is a huge project.
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'18 M3 CS
'16 X5 5.0i (Wife)
'14 MINI Cooper Countryman S Automatic (For Sale)

FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on April 23, 2015, 12:05:49 PM
Battery may be relatively easy. Radiator is a huge project.

I'm going to run a brail battery, which should save about 30 lbs. If I move that to the trunk it would take 45ish pounds off the front and put 15 in the rear. That will help a bit.

I'll have to find some more up front that I can remove.

Cookie Monster

I have a Deka agm battery. Saves about 20 lb from my car.

Although right now it's saving 0lb because it's been sitting in my garage since November. :facepalm:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: thecarnut on April 23, 2015, 12:13:34 PM
I have a Deka agm battery. Saves about 20 lb from my car.

Although right now it's saving 0lb because it's been sitting in my garage since November. :facepalm:

300ZX has a boat battery, it's huge. I'm estimating it's weight at about 35-40 lbs.

hotrodalex

That weight balance is surprising. That's what my car/truck is.

FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: hotrodalex on April 23, 2015, 01:10:53 PM
That weight balance is surprising. That's what my car/truck is.

55/45?

I'd find that pretty surprising. Unless you've done a lot of work to change what I would figure would be pretty close to a 60/40 stock distribution.

hotrodalex

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on April 23, 2015, 01:15:11 PM
55/45?

I'd find that pretty surprising. Unless you've done a lot of work to change what I would figure would be pretty close to a 60/40 stock distribution.

Lots of rear overhang, I suppose. I haven't done any weight shifting, since I don't have a trunk to put the battery in.

Were you gonna get new wheels for this too or stick with those?

FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: hotrodalex on April 23, 2015, 01:18:48 PM
Lots of rear overhang, I suppose. I haven't done any weight shifting, since I don't have a trunk to put the battery in.

Were you gonna get new wheels for this too or stick with those?

I'm going to get new ones, drop down to 18's and run a little wider in the front.

68_427

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Any possibility of going to a single turbo setup to clean up the engine bay and dropping a couple pounds?

I assume you are already on coilovers?  You should be able to get a 9.5" wheel on the front with a bit of camber.  (3 degrees and fender work you MIGHT be able to get 285s up front)
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