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Started by 2o6, March 29, 2016, 11:25:34 AM

2o6

I picked up the sonic.


Only 46k, LTZ turbo manual hatch.



I am having an issue checked out with a 2nd gear that grinds when downshifting.


However the general manager sold it to me, and he was able to replicate the issue - also I caught it and returned it in the hour and a half so far that I've owned it. A



It has 15 months of powertrain left, so I'm confident it'll be fine.












Cookie Monster

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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Rich

That's pretty badass. I'd like to drive one to see what it's like
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CaminoRacer

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2o6

I think the previous owner put the dealer installed Borla exhaust on it.

2o6

Dealer Says the shift linkage may need adjustment. They're putting me in a car for the time being.


:cheers:

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CaminoRacer

Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 12:09:05 PM
Dealer Says the shift linkage may need adjustment. They're putting me in a car for the time being.


:cheers:

Shift linkage adjustment, top off the trans fluid, or a slight clutch adjustment could all be the culprit and easy to fix.
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AutobahnSHO

Congrats!!!

(shoes don't match the car color :lol: )
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2o6

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 29, 2016, 01:00:27 PM
Shift linkage adjustment, top off the trans fluid, or a slight clutch adjustment could all be the culprit and easy to fix.



Yeah it only does it coming down, and only on 2nd.


Worst to worst, a new Trans. And since I've only owned the car three hours, I shouldn't be liable for a dime. Or at worst, they're undoing the deal.

2o6

Needs new Trans.

Transmission is ordered.


Also might need a fuel pump since I'm having some starting issues



Both are under warranty, but either way who cares I've owned a car literally four hours.



Not concerned.

Cookie Monster

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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Laconian

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2o6

Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 29, 2016, 01:58:09 PM
Dang.


Eh, I'm not super concerned. I'm glad they're putting in a new transmission.


They're going to take care of it.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 02:04:46 PM

Eh, I'm not super concerned. I'm glad they're putting in a new transmission.


They're going to take care of it.

Are the transmissions known to be fragile? If a manual transmission has to be replaced at 46k, I wonder how hard it was beat on by the PO and what else might be wrong with it...

Hopefully it'll be good to go for a long time after the new transmission.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

Payman

Do a new clutch and bearing at the same time. This car was abused, but you caught it, luckily.

2o6

Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 29, 2016, 02:22:27 PM
Are the transmissions known to be fragile? If a manual transmission has to be replaced at 46k, I wonder how hard it was beat on by the PO and what else might be wrong with it...

Hopefully it'll be good to go for a long time after the new transmission.



It's kind of an issue on the 2012 cars I'm told.



It wasn't a hard grind, and not always present, and only grinds occasionally when shifting down.



My Yaris sedan had a shit 3rd and 2nd synchro, and the hatch had issues too.

FlatBlackCaddy

Congrats,

But what in the hell is it with GM and shift linkages?

That's all I seem to hear over at the corvette forum, shift linkage this, shift linkage that.

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2o6

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on March 29, 2016, 03:08:44 PM
CONGRATS! What's the small slot above the Hazard button for?

Parking tickets/garage cards/toll tickets

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Congratulations, man. I know you've wanted one of these for a while.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 02:50:25 PM


It's kind of an issue on the 2012 cars I'm told.



It wasn't a hard grind, and not always present, and only grinds occasionally when shifting down.



My Yaris sedan had a shit 3rd and 2nd synchro, and the hatch had issues too.

Is the 2nd gear synchro the problem here as well?

I'd think replacing the syncro would be cheaper, but maybe not with labor costs.
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2o6

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 29, 2016, 03:34:45 PM
Is the 2nd gear synchro the problem here as well?

I'd think replacing the syncro would be cheaper, but maybe not with labor costs.


Most are "non serviceable"


Which usually translates to "we don't know how here"


Cookie Monster

Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 03:41:23 PM

Most are "non serviceable"


Which usually translates to "we don't know how here"



Better deal for you. I'd rather have them replace the entire transmission than tear it apart.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

2o6

Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 29, 2016, 03:56:08 PM
Better deal for you. I'd rather have them replace the entire transmission than tear it apart.



Same.

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CALL_911

Sweet car dude, congratulations. That thing is sharp


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MrH

Congrats! That's a ton of car for the money. Like a more practical fiesta st at a bargain price on the used market. Needing a new transmission and fuel pump at 46k miles is a little worrisome, but at least it's getting taken care of :lol:

Any chance you can swap out the head unit for one of the new Chevy touch screens with CarPlay and android auto? Future bro-in-law had a new Silverado as a rental. Chevy's infotainment is one of the best out there I think.
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2o6

I just checked the Sonic forum, there's a 70 page thread dedicated to the 2nd gear grind. Most guys had it taken care of in 2012-2013 and they were generally first model year cars. My car has lower miles than average.



I'm not super upset - the general manager is the guy who sold me the car and got me financing so it's on him and in taking care of me.