toot toot Sonic warrior

Started by 2o6, March 29, 2016, 11:25:34 AM

BimmerM3

Quote from: 2o6 on March 30, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
Also, I don't know of you've noticed, but the rear spoiler is from the RS model.




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Madman

Quote from: 2o6 on March 30, 2016, 09:22:46 PM
I wish it had a sunroof!


An identical sonic with a sunroof (and 20k more miles) popped up on Autotrader on the way to pick up the one I have now.


Sunroofs are overrated.  Sure, they're great to have on the three perfectly nice days a year when you can really enjoy opening one.  But the other 362 days a year are either too hot, too cold or too rainy/snowy to make having one worthwhile.
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68_427

I used my sunroof 300+ days a year when I had one, and I had the shade open 365.
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mzziaz

Quote from: Rockraven on March 30, 2016, 09:11:59 PM
Your call, but I would. There's practically zero extra labour.
+1

Should be pretty cheap insurance.
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Madman

Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

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"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

12,000 RPM

Sunroof has lost its appeal to me. Most of the time I'm in the car I'm driving well beyond open fenestration speeds, and when I'm not it's too fcking hot! Also I don't feel the need to let everyone hear my music (which is usually NPR nowadays). Only reason I got a sunroof in my car is because Honda bundled sunroofs with rear discs, ABS and EBD in my car.
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2o6

They gave me a 1.8 auto Sonic LT sedan for my loaner



- man, it's notably slower

- there's like a 8 MPG difference between mine and this

93JC

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 31, 2016, 05:58:44 AM
Sunroof has lost its appeal to me. [...] Also I don't feel the need to let everyone hear my music (which is usually NPR nowadays).

Fuck that man, I was at the university today for a meeting and on my way back to the office I had the windows rolled down listening to the CBC.  :praise:

Gotta-Qik-C7

I love sunroofs. I won't buy a hardtop without one..........
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Payman

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on March 31, 2016, 07:28:35 PM
I love sunroofs. I won't buy a hardtop without one..........

I figured you more of a T-Top man.  :ohyeah: :partyon:

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: Rockraven on March 31, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
I figured you more of a T-Top man.  :ohyeah: :partyon:
HEY! I like those too! Had em on my '94 Z28!  :dance:
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: 2o6 on March 31, 2016, 03:04:36 PM
They gave me a 1.8 auto Sonic LT sedan for my loaner



- man, it's notably slower
- there's like a 8 MPG difference between mine and this

How much do you drive? Or is that the computer mpgeez?
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ifcar

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2016, 05:39:41 AM
How much do you drive? Or is that the computer mpgeez?

For what it's worth, nearly every car I've been in lately has a trip computer that's nearly spot on with the manual calculation. I can't recall a variation of more than 1.5 mpg, and most are within .5 mpg. The days of them being laughably unrealistic are hopefully behind us.

ifcar

Quote from: 2o6 on March 31, 2016, 03:04:36 PM
They gave me a 1.8 auto Sonic LT sedan for my loaner



- man, it's notably slower

- there's like a 8 MPG difference between mine and this

Yeah, the turbo really should have been standard. The 1.8-liter is just unacceptable in today's market. You can get a crossovers with better mileage than the 1.8-liter Sonic.

AutobahnSHO

Quote from: ifcar on April 01, 2016, 05:57:21 AM
For what it's worth, nearly every car I've been in lately has a trip computer that's nearly spot on with the manual calculation. I can't recall a variation of more than 1.5 mpg, and most are within .5 mpg. The days of them being laughably unrealistic are hopefully behind us.

Interesting.

I just finally got rid of my last car that didn't come with a keyfob in Dec2015. I'm behind the times, usually. :mrcool:
Will

2o6

I got my car back, it's so much better with the new transmission!



They reflashed the ECU and did an update, the car has only done it once more since I got it back as far as starting rough. (It starts fine immediately aftwerwards). I checked, there's a service bulletin about this. The remedy is to use better fuel, first. Low quality fuel will cause it do to this.


My first tank was 87 octane, but now I'm going to run 91 or better in this car now. It also runs a hell of a lot better with 91-93 octane than it did with 87, even though GM says it *can* run on 87.


I think I need to learn how to drive it, I feel like me shutting off immediately after stopping isn't good for the Turbo.

12,000 RPM

I think the "cool the turbo down" thing has been solved with model metallurgy. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Laconian

I thought the turbo timing issue was with coking the oil, not with the turbo itself. It's not a problem with synthetic oil.
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2o6


2o6

I also think that the fact it's a GM product, my car friends keep finding "things wrong" and the fact it's turbo is making me more nervous than I'm used to being.

AutobahnSHO

warranty though  :lol:

I would just say the last couple minutes of driving take it easy and the turbo will be fine cooling down.  (Army trucks "required 5min of idle before shutdown" but we NEVER did that.....)
Will

280Z Turbo

I thought the whole thing was solved when they started using water cooled turbos in the 80's.

Rupert

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 02, 2016, 01:24:58 PM
warranty though  :lol:

I would just say the last couple minutes of driving take it easy and the turbo will be fine cooling down.  (Army trucks "required 5min of idle before shutdown" but we NEVER did that.....)

Army trucks are known for always being in good condition, too.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 02, 2016, 01:39:51 PM
I thought the whole thing was solved when they started using water cooled turbos in the 80's.

It pretty much was.

The whole cool down the turbo thing is paranoia designed to sell gewgaws like turbo timers (on stock cars at least).
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: Rupert on April 02, 2016, 02:18:54 PM
Army trucks are known for always being in good condition, too.

They run.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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FoMoJo

Quote from: 2o6 on April 02, 2016, 01:18:06 PM
I also think that the fact it's a GM product, my car friends keep finding "things wrong" and the fact it's turbo is making me more nervous than I'm used to being.
You're likely not going to keep it very long, so it should hold out for a few weeks/months anyways.
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ifcar

Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 02, 2016, 02:34:47 PM
It pretty much was.

The whole cool down the turbo thing is paranoia designed to sell gewgaws like turbo timers (on stock cars at least).

My neighbors' '98ish Saab had some cooling fan running after you shut off the car. Or is that just a Saab thing?

Soup DeVille

Quote from: ifcar on April 02, 2016, 02:52:14 PM
My neighbors' '98ish Saab had some cooling fan running after you shut off the car. Or is that just a Saab thing?

Possibly. Saabs are all quite weird. At least real Saabs were.
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