Sporty G37 thread

Started by 12,000 RPM, March 14, 2017, 07:19:57 PM

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Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on March 15, 2017, 06:29:52 PM
I know. The G37S isn't one. But I liked how it handled and behaved there. Your other options kinda suck.
What's wrong with the Genesis?
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Quote from: CALL_911 on March 15, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
I feel like you'd like an RX350.

He's getting the Hyundai. Let's just accept that now.
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Test drove a Genesis 3.8 at lunch. Not bad at all. The more I think about it though, the more interesting that R spec sounds. I'm going to try and drive that tonight. Either way I'm getting something tomorrow.

Only issue is that R spec has 80k miles and 3 owners :mask: :confused: I don't want to be the last guy in the gang bang. Plus I wanna get a few years out of that powertrain warranty. I will blow through 20k miles in one year
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3 owners in that short a time should tell you something.  Or maybe it's just happenstance.

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Quote from: giant_mtb on March 17, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
3 owners in that short a time should tell you something.  Or maybe it's just happenstance.
naw it's probably legitimate bad juju. Plus if the transmission is programmed the same it's kind of a waste. I have to go with my head on this one.
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CaminoRacer

Does the R-spec have the same transmission? I woulda guessed it's different since it's a V8.
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They all have the same 8AT and it looks like they're programmed the same. Also looks like the 5.0 doesn't make its money worth unless you ring it out. I don't need those problems. I'd just be happy with the R wheels to be honest. 3.8 it is
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 17, 2017, 02:28:57 PM
They all have the same 8AT and it looks like they're programmed the same. Also looks like the 5.0 doesn't make its money worth unless you ring it out. I don't need those problems. I'd just be happy with the R wheels to be honest. 3.8 it is

And you think the 3.8 won't need to be wrung out to make its money worth?  I've driven a 3.8 Hyundai, that motor is down on low-end power compared to something like the Ford 3.7.  Peak torque is way up at 5000+ RPM.
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Quote from: MX793 on March 17, 2017, 03:20:11 PM
And you think the 3.8 won't need to be wrung out to make its money worth?  I've driven a 3.8 Hyundai, that motor is down on low-end power compared to something like the Ford 3.7.  Peak torque is way up at 5000+ RPM.
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Quote from: MX793 on March 17, 2017, 03:20:11 PM
And you think the 3.8 won't need to be wrung out to make its money worth?  I've driven a 3.8 Hyundai, that motor is down on low-end power compared to something like the Ford 3.7.  Peak torque is way up at 5000+ RPM.
Money worth over the 3.8, yea. Admittedly the Maxima was way punchier, though I feel like that's due to aggressive throttle calibration. In any case I don't want to be the 4th owner of anything.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 17, 2017, 03:47:24 PM
Money worth over the 3.8, yea. Admittedly the Maxima was way punchier, though I feel like that's due to aggressive throttle calibration. In any case I don't want to be the 4th owner of anything.

You'll be making the same power as the V6 1000 RPM sooner with the 8.
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And I'll be making more power at 3500 RPM than my Civic does at peak. Everything's relative. Genesis power curve doesn't look too peaky:

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Quote from: shp4man on March 17, 2017, 04:13:58 PM
The Koreans make a V8? Huh. New one on me.  ;)

Hyundai makes the largest vehicular engines in the world, think they don't know how to make an automotive V8?
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Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 17, 2017, 04:22:42 PM
Hyundai makes the largest vehicular engines in the world, think they don't know how to make an automotive V8?

Technically, Hyundai Automotive is a completely separate company from the rest of the Hyundai Industrial Conglomerate.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 17, 2017, 04:15:39 PM
And I'll be making more power at 3500 RPM than my Civic does at peak. Everything's relative. Genesis power curve doesn't look too peaky:



Doesn't look as smooth as this:

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Quote from: MX793 on March 17, 2017, 04:27:16 PM
Technically, Hyundai Automotive is a completely separate company from the rest of the Hyundai Industrial Conglomerate.

Shush you. If Saabs were born from jets, Hyundais can be born from container ships.
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Quote from: MX793 on March 17, 2017, 04:28:57 PM
Doesn't look as smooth as this:


Why would it be.... the scaling is nearly 2x different

Both torque curves vary within a ~15% band with some dips and lumps. It's not that big of a deal, we're not talking BRZ torque dip here.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 17, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Test drove a Genesis 3.8 at lunch. Not bad at all. The more I think about it though, the more interesting that R spec sounds. I'm going to try and drive that tonight. Either way I'm getting something tomorrow.

Only issue is that R spec has 80k miles and 3 owners :mask: :confused: I don't want to be the last guy in the gang bang. Plus I wanna get a few years out of that powertrain warranty. I will blow through 20k miles in one year


Hyundai warranties drop to 60K after it leaves the first owner.

12,000 RPM

For real? I just left a dealer who said it doesn't.

I saw another one. Def don't like the tech pack with the fake I drive. But I def prefer the beige interior to black (though the coco brown interior is gawd). The combo I want just doesn't seem to exist. Either way I'm getting a car tomorrow morning
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 17, 2017, 09:51:54 PM
For real? I just left a dealer who said it doesn't.

I saw another one. Def don't like the tech pack with the fake I drive. But I def prefer the beige interior to black (though the coco brown interior is gawd). The combo I want just doesn't seem to exist. Either way I'm getting a car tomorrow morning

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After sleeping on it I am def gonna at least check out the G. I was frustrated because all the Ss seemed to carry a crazy premium, but I just found one that will work just about perfectly. A little more than I wanted to pay, but Gs hold value better than the Genesis anyway, and I'm *hoping* to be in this next car for at least the length of the loan :lol:

Thinking more about it, I don't think the Genesis is gonna work. Just running through some of my gripes with it:

- It's very reluctant to drive quickly. Stats say its as fast as the G (or even the Maxima I drove), but it feels nowhere near as eager as either. Transmission is an albatross which works well for driving slow and saving gas, but no sport mode and useless manual mode. Dynamically it's not bad though
- Option combos are frustrating. There's the base non-nav stereo which looks like something out of an Accent, the intermediate nav, and the "premium" nav. Premium nav is easy to find, but fake I-drive sucks. Intermediate has a much better touch screen. Seems like people only bought the intermediate with black interiors as well.
- I don't like any of the wheels on the 3.8s.

So honestly as nice as they are... and they are really nice, I think I'm whittling it down to the G and the Chrysler (for real). A base G will be much more fun to drive than the Genesis, and I actually just found an S that was mislisted as a Journey that fits all my criteria (though is a little high price wise). Two hunert has its issues but they are dirt cheap and have the best infotainment of any of the cars I'm looking at by a sizeable margin. I at least want to drive one and confirm that it sucks myself. It might be just fine. So I gotta drive a regular G, the S and the 200S V6 today if I can.
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Get the G37S. One of the best driving cars in its class during the last decade IMO. Luxurious and comfortable too. A Z for grown ups.

I like the design of the Chrysler a lot, but that's about it.
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You seem to be benchmarking the Maxima a lot...why not buy it?
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What year Genesii have you been test driving? If I'm not mistaken, MrH's was a first gen, and 2013-onwards got the better suspension tuning. Or am I imagining that?

Seems like a 2013+ with the base engine might be the sweet spot on price+performance.
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

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Quote from: Tave on March 18, 2017, 09:35:20 AM
What year Genesii have you been test driving? If I'm not mistaken, MrH's was a first gen, and 2013-onwards got the better suspension tuning. Or am I imagining that?

Seems like a 2013+ with the base engine might be the sweet spot on price+performance.


that's a lot more than he wants to pay.