Interesting Youtube query

[12,000 RPM]

I honestly don't know which one I would choose. Except BMW; I wouldn't buy a new BMW.

[giant_mtb]

Easily Audi.  Toss-up between BMW and Mercedes (never really been into either), and Alfa wayyyyyy at the bottom of the list right underneath "shoot myself in the face."

[Laconian]

I wouldn't buy a Mercedes at the price ranges I'm interested in. Their entry level cars and CUVs are garbage.

[BimmerM3]

None of the above > BMW > Audi > Mercedes > Alfa

[Raza]

I honestly don't know which one I would choose. Except BMW; I wouldn't buy a new BMW.

Audi for me.  New BMWs suck.  Mercedes sucks.  I like Alfa, but I'm not in the market for an automatic sedan.

[93JC]

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[BimmerM3]

Audi for me.  New BMWs suck.  Mercedes sucks.  I like Alfa, but I'm not in the market for an automatic sedan.

The steering on my dad's new A4 is completely numb. Otherwise, that car is awesome, but that pretty much kills it for me.

[12,000 RPM]

I'd have a hard time picking an A4 over a Golf R now that it has the virtual cockpit

I've spoken about the 3 at length. C/E are pretty but too feminine IMO. I would take the risk on an Alfa after the inevitable huge discounts but the back seat is too small. Looking forward to see their 5 series fighter, and even more importantly/hopefully the LX replacements built on that platform

[Cookie Monster]

None of the above.

[Rich]

Out of those choices?  S class

[Raza]

The steering on my dad's new A4 is completely numb. Otherwise, that car is awesome, but that pretty much kills it for me.

Could be. The steering in my brother's S4 isn't great; the speed sensitive weighting sort of kicks on when you don't expect t sometimes. His S5 is much better though.

[Raza]

C/E are pretty but too feminine IMO.

Man, you REALLY care a lot about the image you project to complete strangers.

[giant_mtb]

Man, you REALLY care a lot about the image you project to complete strangers.

[CaminoRacer]

Mercedes.

[BimmerM3]

Man, you REALLY care a lot about the image you project to complete strangers.

[12,000 RPM]

Man, you REALLY care a lot about the image you project to complete strangers.

The irony here, too rich. But the delivery was good, so you get your smileys.

[r0tor]

I still think I'd go BMW even with their latest offerings being not up to the enthusiast standards of previous generations... I like the simplistic layout of their interior and they are one of the last places you can get a front engine rear drive manuals trans lux car

[12,000 RPM]

I wasn't crazy about I Drive. To be fair though, I can't think of any systems in this segment that aren't less than OK. I do like the 340i 6MT combo, but I'm also OK with autos in this segment. I feel like an IS350-F or XE S would be just as fun to drive for like $20K less

[Morris Minor]

Audi
then BMW
then Mercedes
I would not consider Alfa.

[12,000 RPM]

Even if you could service them at your local Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep/RAM dealer?

[68_427]

Chevy Spark manual with crank windows and manual locks.  Pure enthusiast automobile fuck these poseur cars.

[2o6]

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Yeah those new Skip Ad SLE turbos are pretty great cars

[Laconian]

I'd get a Skip over a Lync & Co any day.

[Soup DeVille]

Even if you could service them at your local Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep/RAM dealer?

Not much help if they have to keep a spot in the bay with your name on it.

[r0tor]

Even if you could service them at your local Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep/RAM dealer?

If you ever had the pleasure of trying to work with a dodge/jeep/chrysler/ram dealer - you would know thats not exactly a benefit

[Soup DeVille]

If you ever had the pleasure of trying to work with a dodge/jeep/chrysler/ram dealer - you would know thats not exactly a benefit

To be fair, the dealership service at Chrysler with the wife's minivan was much better than what I've gotten recently at the GMC dealer with the Acadia.

But both of those I had to visit much more than is reasonable.

[r0tor]

I got the joys of no loaner cars even for warranty  work (but their shuttle service was available if you worked within 5 miles of the dealer).  I experienced the joy of having a high pitch noise from the ac compressor, took it in every single time I was near the place, printed out the TSB for the issue - only for them to say they couldn't replicate it and never did fix it.

My favorite thing is not being able to schedule an oil change because "we have this great convenient thing called Mopar Express where you just show up and they will do it"... To bad the hours are limited, not posted anywhere, and last time I waited 2 f'in hours because they were busy... So convenient though!

[r0tor]

...oh forgot to mention the 30 day lead time to get a front shock that almost caused me to not have a valid inspection... On a vehicle that was still in production installing thousands of the shocks I needed every single day on the assembly line

[Soup DeVille]

Every GM dealership I've dealt with has been worse.

The Acadia is currently getting the trans rebuilt. It has 86,000 miles on it, and has never towed a thing. It's a known issue, thousands have suffered this same failure. The earlier models had their warranties automatically extended to cover it: but not mine. I'm six months out of warranty; the damn service advisor had them start working on it before I ever approved anything and tried to stick me with a $5000 bill on a repair I never authorized.

It's being repaired at a private shop up the road for half that, and I had to threaten to sue them to get my car back.

[FoMoJo]

Every GM dealership I've dealt with has been worse.

The Acadia is currently getting the trans rebuilt. It has 86,000 miles on it, and has never towed a thing. It's a known issue, thousands have suffered this same failure. The earlier models had their warranties automatically extended to cover it: but not mine. I'm six months out of warranty; the damn service advisor had them start working on it before I ever approved anything and tried to stick me with a $5000 bill on a repair I never authorized.

It's being repaired at a private shop up the road for half that, and I had to threaten to sue them to get my car back.

Which trans?  GM transmissions are said to be quite good.