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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 04:11:52 pm »
Cor458?

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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 04:16:05 pm »
A mid-engined "exotic" packing an LS V8, a 6-speed manual, and is RELIABLE makes me want to start rethinking my retirement folio.  :dance:

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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 04:23:18 pm »
Any guesses on MSRP? I hope they can keep it 5-figures, but realistically I'd wager around $120,000 - $150,000.

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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 04:37:58 pm »
At least $150k.
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 06:11:41 pm »
Yup! right around 150K.....
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 06:12:26 pm »
Hot damn!  A Corvette without disgusting chrome wheels?  Sign me up!

Legit though, those rims looks really cool.

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 06:39:09 pm »
Hot damn!  A Corvette without disgusting chrome wheels?  Sign me up!

Legit though, those rims looks really cool.
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 06:48:21 pm »
A mid-engined "exotic" packing an LS V8, a 6-speed manual, and is RELIABLE makes me want to start rethinking my retirement folio.  :dance:
Rumoured to be a DOHC V8, but maybe a boosted V6. :hmm:
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2017, 07:25:11 pm »
Rumoured to be a DOHC V8, but maybe a boosted V6. :hmm:
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2017, 08:26:31 pm »
Hot damn!  A Corvette without disgusting chrome wheels?  Sign me up!

Legit though, those rims looks really cool.

I'm really tired of black rims.

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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 08:27:53 pm »
Rumoured to be a DOHC V8, but maybe a boosted V6. :hmm:

I hope they're not that stupid.

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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 08:39:04 pm »
They don't have an engine family that needs to be legitimized like Ford's Ecoboost.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2017, 09:21:55 pm »
High Feature V6!  :erjerbs: :neverforget:
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2017, 09:28:36 pm »
At least $150k.

Nah I expect the Cadillac to be that price.  Also the price will lower once the C7 is phased out in a few years and they throw the LT1 in it I'm sure
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 09:48:55 pm »
It's not a mid engined Corvette. That'll never happen.

This is the flagship car they're using to relaunch Saturn.
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 10:04:21 pm »
It's not a mid engined Corvette. That'll never happen.

This is the flagship car they're using to relaunch Saturn.

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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2017, 10:08:53 pm »
It's not a mid engined Corvette. That'll never happen.

This is the flagship car they're using to relaunch Saturn.

What's the difference? Both are made out of plastic.
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2017, 05:41:30 am »
They have to keep the price low. Rationally speaking, there's no reason this thing should cost more than a Z06. They don't want to make the same mistake Acura did; nobody is going to drop Ferrari money on a Corvette.
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2017, 06:23:40 am »
How does anyone think this is less than $150k when a ZR1 is $125k and not on a unique chassis like this thing is
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2017, 06:27:21 am »
I don't see this bumping against Ferrari pricing, but it'll definitely be 6 figures.  Consider a regular Stingray can easily be optioned to 75k+.  Z06 starts at 80k and the last ZR1 sold at over 100k 7-8 years ago.
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2017, 06:52:35 am »
They have to keep the price low. Rationally speaking, there's no reason this thing should cost more than a Z06. They don't want to make the same mistake Acura did; nobody is going to drop Ferrari money on a Corvette.

What's Ferrari money? I think the 488 starts around 270K and California at 200K. Even at 150, it's significantly cheaper.
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 06:55:44 am »
Yeah, most 488s are in the $300k+ now.
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2017, 06:59:05 am »
I'd still rather have an '06 Ford GT for the same money.  Though of course, you probably can't get a GT for ~150k in the used market.

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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2017, 07:11:42 am »
How does anyone think this is less than $150k when a ZR1 is $125k and not on a unique chassis like this thing is
The regular Corvette is already on a unique chassis and starts at like $55K. No matter what purpose this thing serves, a $150K price point is absurd.

If it's meant to be the C8, a $100K base price hike is ridiculous. Joe HELOC mob will have a fit.

If it's meant to complement an FR C8, it's still capped at the upper end by the ZR1 & the benchmark: the 911 Carrera. The C2S PDK is just a couple ticks off of a Z06A in a straight line (0.3/3MPH down in the quarter), while being significantly better built, and let's face it, having a much better badge. So even for the same money this thing would have to be better than a 911, and for more money it would have to be God. It would have to shift the sports car paradigm, which I just don't see even being possible at this point. Corvette's big selling point is that it's a bargain... take that away and it becomes a more refined Viper. GM has to be careful o
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2017, 08:24:03 am »
All speculation points towards the "Zora" being a Ford GT level supercar competitor.  This thing will be expensive and it will be limited.  As the case with the Ford GT, there will be buyers from a large fan base.

The C7 is figured to be in production through 2020.  No idea on what direction it goes.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2017, 08:46:59 am »
The regular Corvette is already on a unique chassis and starts at like $55K. No matter what purpose this thing serves, a $150K price point is absurd.

If it's meant to be the C8, a $100K base price hike is ridiculous. Joe HELOC mob will have a fit.

If it's meant to complement an FR C8, it's still capped at the upper end by the ZR1 & the benchmark: the 911 Carrera. The C2S PDK is just a couple ticks off of a Z06A in a straight line (0.3/3MPH down in the quarter), while being significantly better built, and let's face it, having a much better badge. So even for the same money this thing would have to be better than a 911, and for more money it would have to be God. It would have to shift the sports car paradigm, which I just don't see even being possible at this point. Corvette's big selling point is that it's a bargain... take that away and it becomes a more refined Viper. GM has to be careful o

That the regular Vette is on a bespoke platform built to a low price point has been one of the limiting factors of subsequent recent Ubervettes historically having trouble putting power down and just generally being more of a handful to drive than similarly potent, higher priced supercars.  It's the same challenge Ford has faced with the hottest Mustangs.  There's only so much you can do with a platform engineered to sell for a relatively low price point.  What they've (Chevy) been able to do with that platform limitation has been admirable.  Imagine what would be possible with a platform engineered around a 6 figure starting point?  With more static weight on the rear, they can use more aggressive gearing (which is a big part of how Porsche overachieves on the dragstrip).  And lest we forget, a C2S PDK lists for 110K with no other options...
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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2017, 08:59:23 am »
Aren't there reports that GM is planning on spinning Corvette off as a sub-brand?  It would make sense to keep the C7 around as the entry level model and go up from there.

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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2017, 09:11:16 am »
I think they'll definitely keep a front engine model. They've been kicking ass with it, no reason to completely ditch it.

All speculation points towards the "Zora" being a Ford GT level supercar competitor.  This thing will be expensive and it will be limited.  As the case with the Ford GT, there will be buyers from a large fan base.

The C7 is figured to be in production through 2020.  No idea on what direction it goes.

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Re: Mid-engine Corvette?
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2017, 10:42:59 am »
That the regular Vette is on a bespoke platform built to a low price point has been one of the limiting factors of subsequent recent Ubervettes historically having trouble putting power down and just generally being more of a handful to drive than similarly potent, higher priced supercars.  It's the same challenge Ford has faced with the hottest Mustangs.  There's only so much you can do with a platform engineered to sell for a relatively low price point.  What they've (Chevy) been able to do with that platform limitation has been admirable.  Imagine what would be possible with a platform engineered around a 6 figure starting point?  With more static weight on the rear, they can use more aggressive gearing (which is a big part of how Porsche overachieves on the dragstrip).  And lest we forget, a C2S PDK lists for 110K with no other options...
Not taking that away from GM at all; the Corvette is a world class underdog sports car and a legit 911 alternative at half the price. I just think from a business perspective going after the GT, rather than playing in the 911 price range, is a huge mistake. They can let it go up to 200K+, but I think they should start it at just where the C7 currently ends price wise, if not a little lower. I just don't think there is a profitable market for half million dollar Corvettes... HELOCs don't go that high :lol:
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