C7 ZR1 leaked

[12,000 RPM]

because making a near-supercar level coupe off a sedan chassis nets you a 350Z.

What about making a sedan off of a pure sports car platform?

[GoCougs]

because making a near-supercar level coupe off a sedan chassis nets you a 350Z.

Which not only outperformed the Mustang of the times, but it was a decent hit along with the G35; both helped put Nissan back on the performance/enthusiast map. It's also worked wonders for the 5th and 6th gen Camaro.

The Corvette has always been its own standalone thing. No one is buying a stripper $45k V6 Corvette no matter how that's achieved, and GM knows this.

[12,000 RPM]

Yea sports cars are never going to be volume sellers, no matter how many cheap variants are made. Jag did just as you guys suggested by putting the 2.0T in the F-Type and sales are still down. What is the point of a Vette that don't put hair on your chest???

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

The Corvette has always been its own standalone thing. No one is buying a stripper $45k V6 Corvette no matter how that's achieved, and GM knows this.

Yea sports cars are never going to be volume sellers, no matter how many cheap variants are made. Jag did just as you guys suggested by putting the 2.0T in the F-Type and sales are still down. What is the point of a Vette that don't put hair on your chest???

YUP!

[2o6]

What about making a sedan off of a pure sports car platform?

Then you get absolutely no room

[Raza]

Yea sports cars are never going to be volume sellers, no matter how many cheap variants are made. Jag did just as you guys suggested by putting the 2.0T in the F-Type and sales are still down. What is the point of a Vette that don't put hair on your chest???

Well, they sort of shot themselves in the foot. Nearly 300hp and it doesn't even really outrun my 10 year old Z4 for a $62K starting price. No manual and 3700 pounds. 

[12,000 RPM]

With a bespoke aluminum platform! I was going to say my G weighs the same with 2x the seats and 50% more cylinders but FFS Jag's own current XE 35t's weigh the same with all that and a blower

[Raza]

With a bespoke aluminum platform! I was going to say my G weighs the same with 2x the seats and 50% more cylinders but FFS Jag's own current XE 35t's weigh the same with all that and a blower

Don't get me wrong, I love the F-Type, but at 62K with a 0-60 of 5.5 seconds and no manual, you're better off saving up for a V6 manual or just getting something else.

[MX793]

I think Jag is using an aluminum-lead amalgam.  No idea how their cars, making extensive use of aluminum, are so heavy.  When I learned that their V6 is essentially their V8 with two cylinders not populated (as distinct from chopped off like other V8-based 6s, the block is the same length on the Jag), I understood why the V6 models were about the same weight as the V8s.  But the F-Type weighs as much as my mostly-steel Mustang while being something like a foot and a half shorter.  Can't figure that out.

[r0tor]

The basic structure is engineered to handle a supercharged V8, being topless, plus be somewhat luxurious... Not surprising it's heavy

[MX793]

The basic structure is engineered to handle a supercharged V8, being topless, plus be somewhat luxurious... Not surprising it's heavy

And the Mustang's structure isn't designed to have a high-powered V8 or be a convertible?

[12,000 RPM]

For half the price, with a back seat

[r0tor]

And the Mustang's structure isn't designed to have a high-powered V8 or be a convertible?

...Plus AWD...

How much reinforcement is put into the chassis between a base model and a Shelby?

[Xer0]

The Jag is compromised and expensive, but god is it gorgeous and looks great.  What more do you really need?

[12,000 RPM]

A 2 seat car that doesn't weigh as much as a crossover with the same engines

F-Type's best modes of consumption are the eyes and ears. Depreciation is blood curdling and even the most diplomatic reviews of it are mixed at best.

[MX793]

...Plus AWD...

How much reinforcement is put into the chassis between a base model and a Shelby?

IIRC, the Shelby (not the R) is within 100 lbs of the GTPP.

If you told me the V8AWD one weighs as much as a Mustang GT, OK.  But the RWD weighs more than a Mustang GT.  The 4-banger weighs about the same the Mustang GT.  Given that it's about a foot shorter and mostly aluminum, I would expect it to weigh at least 10% less than Mustang with an equivalent engine (4-banger vs 4-banger or V8 vs V8).

[Xer0]

A 2 seat car that doesn't weigh as much as a crossover with the same engines

F-Type's best modes of consumption are the eyes and ears. Depreciation is blood curdling and even the most diplomatic reviews of it are mixed at best.

But its oh so important for the type of car it is.

Besides, resale value doesn't seem too bad on those cars.  I was actually looking at 6spd examples out of curiosity and those aren't anything less than 50K.

[r0tor]

IIRC, the Shelby (not the R) is within 100 lbs of the GTPP.

If you told me the V8AWD one weighs as much as a Mustang GT, OK.  But the RWD weighs more than a Mustang GT.  The 4-banger weighs about the same the Mustang GT.  Given that it's about a foot shorter and mostly aluminum, I would expect it to weigh at least 10% less than Mustang with an equivalent engine (4-banger vs 4-banger or V8 vs V8).

so what's the luxury weight penalty?

[AutobahnSHO]

I have to believe it's like bicycles.

High-end or wal-mart bike, they have 2 wheels and mostly the same components. Even made of the same basic frame materials, the $100 bike weighs so much more than the nice bike because it's easier to build strong and heavy than strong and light.   

Usually though the more expensive bike means lighter too so

[Char]

looks like a bulbous cancerous pos. Not a fan of that design.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

looks like a bulbous cancerous pos. Not a fan of that design.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Serial Number 0004 delivery to Street Speed 717. First and only Manual ZR1 in the country....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i6DCgpp_MQ

[Submariner]

Serial Number 0004 delivery to Street Speed 717. First and only Manual ZR1 in the country....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i6DCgpp_MQ

Jesus.  That guy is fucking terrible.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Jesus.  That guy is fucking terrible.

Yeah! He'll ruin it like both his over modded C7 Z06s and his McClaren he drives in the damn snow instead of his Duramax!

[giant_mtb]

Young money.  He'll be nothing but a memory in 3 years.

[68_427]

I would drive a McLaren in the snow too.  An F40 and F50 even

[12,000 RPM]

Jesus.  That guy is fucking terrible.

In the same category as Shmee (or as he pronounces it, Shthmee).... cars through the lens of a 14 year old

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Car dyno'd at 668. Only 200 miles on it!

I would drive a McLaren in the snow too.  An F40 and F50 even

I hope you're kidding about those last two......

[giant_mtb]

In some snow, sure...anything over a couple inches (aka, real snow), you're an idiot.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

In some snow, sure...anything over a couple inches (aka, real snow), you're an idiot.

DUDE! His car was covered in SALT! And to top it off he took his effing Quad to the wash a sprayed it off but left the McChicken (as he calls it) filthy! SMH! Crazy if you ask me!