Hybrids in Hilly Terrain

Started by Morris Minor, December 14, 2017, 06:13:04 AM

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Quote from: giant_mtb on December 21, 2017, 11:07:26 PM
I've noticed this as well.  I imagine it's programming for towing/load purposes or just the nature of larger engines.

Big pistons + more pistons = more vacuum when you shut the throttle. And more surface area along the cylinder walls to create friction.

Edit: although I'm not positive that larger pistons = more braking force if the compression ratio is the same as a smaller displacement engine.
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Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 21, 2017, 07:05:14 PM
It generally tracks with displacement. I mean, lots of other factors are there too, but a bigger engine means more engine braking.
Yes.  Weight, displacement and compression ratio.  My Sunbeam Tiger would skid the rear wheels if I tried to gear down into second without proper coordination of engine revs and speed.  Don't think I tried it too often.  Even third was a bit dicey if I was going a bit fast.
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Quote from: FoMoJo on December 22, 2017, 03:03:34 PM
Yes.  Weight, displacement and compression ratio.  My Sunbeam Tiger would skid the rear wheels if I tried to gear down into second without proper coordination of engine revs and speed.  Don't think I tried it too often.  Even third was a bit dicey if I was going a bit fast.
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Quote from: FoMoJo on December 22, 2017, 03:03:34 PM
Yes.  Weight, displacement and compression ratio.  My Sunbeam Tiger would skid the rear wheels if I tried to gear down into second without proper coordination of engine revs and speed.  Don't think I tried it too often.  Even third was a bit dicey if I was going a bit fast.
I chewed the hell out of my motorcycles back tire on my last track day. Only 649cc but I think it has 11:1 compression and only weighs 700lb with me on it. They make clutches that slip on back torque for motorcycles
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 27, 2017, 10:34:19 PM
I chewed the hell out of my motorcycles back tire on my last track day. Only 649cc but I think it has 11:1 compression and only weighs 700lb with me on it. They make clutches that slip on back torque for motorcycles

Factory tire size on a Tiger was only 155 wide.  I think they had an open diff, too.  Throw in the crappy, low-grip bias plies of the era, and it wouldn't be hard to get it to slip a tire either on acceleration or under engine braking.
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