New Chevy Silverado

[giant_mtb]

I think my comment was coming more from "back in the day" when the norm for a truck was an 8 foot bed.  Now it's rare to see one.

It's rare because the average person would rather have some back seats and a 6' bed over a short cab and an 8' bed.  8' beds are predominately real work trucks only.  It's not like you can't still get an 8' bed.

[Payman]

It's rare because the average person would rather have some back seats and a 6' bed over a short cab and an 8' bed.  8' beds are predominately real work trucks only.  It's not like you can't still get an 8' bed.

If I were to get a full size truck, it better haul an ATV and sheets of plywood.

[giant_mtb]

If I were to get a full size truck, it better haul an ATV and sheets of plywood.

So buy one with an 8' bed...because they make them...?  Not sure what the complaint is here. 

[giant_mtb]

I mean, shit, I can easily fit ten 4x8 sheets of 1" thick foam board in Tacoma's measly 6' bed just fine.  Y'all talking like you can't haul 4x8 sheets without an 8' bed. Sure, you can't lay them flat to haul as many, but gas is cheap amirite?

[Payman]

So buy one with an 8' bed...because they make them...?  Not sure what the complaint is here. 

Who's complaining? All I'm saying is, if I'm spending $$tupid on a full size truck, it's going to be as useful as fuck. Yes, that means an 8 foot bed.

[giant_mtb]

Who's complaining? All I'm saying is, if I'm spending $$tupid on a full size truck, it's going to be as useful as fuck. Yes, that means an 8 foot bed.

Okay.  Then you can buy one.  Problem solved.

[Payman]

Okay.  Then you can buy one.  Problem solved.

I don't want to.

[shp4man]

Like this one, but not in white:

[Payman]

Like this one, but not in white:

Yup. The cheapest work truck with a V8 and 8 foot bed.

[AutobahnSHO]

Gross.

A giant SUV with an even gianter semi-truck front end, with a tiny bed on back.

OH and you have to spend a couple more thou to get a cover so your groceries don't get wet.

[AutobahnSHO]

I don't like this look, either. The bumperline is so low and there is so much vertical space. It's like a semi from the 80s only de-blinged.

[Payman]

I don't like it either, and the sightlines must be horrible.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I prefer the Ram, but whatever. The very idea of buying a new full size truck is hilarious to me.

WORD! The prices are Crazy!

If I were to get a full size truck, it better haul an ATV and sheets of plywood.

I rented a Crew Cab Silverado in 2015 to take my Quad to my cabin! I had to let the air out the rear tires of the Warrior to get the rear gate to close!

[shp4man]

I think it looks very truck like with the high hood.

[68_427]

Gross.

A giant SUV with an even gianter semi-truck front end, with a tiny bed on back.

OH and you have to spend a couple more thou to get a cover so your groceries don't get wet.

Who the fuck puts groceries in the bed.  I had a hard tonneau cover on my truck and still put them in the cab

[AutobahnSHO]

Who the fuck puts groceries in the bed.  I had a hard tonneau cover on my truck and still put them in the cab

The idiots that buy one to haul their 3 kids around in.



(I see that a LOT.)

[12,000 RPM]

Bed covers are like a couple hundred bucks man

The front end looks like more and more of a mess the more I see it.

[veeman]

The idiots that buy one to haul their 3 kids around in.



(I see that a LOT.)

Well I see a lot of Dads around where I live hauling their three kids in Jeep Wrangler Unlimiteds.  They both can traverse school zone speed bumps equally well I think 

[AutobahnSHO]

Well I see a lot of Dads around where I live hauling their three kids in Jeep Wrangler Unlimiteds.  They both can traverse school zone speed bumps equally well I think 

LOL there were TONS of jacked-up 2door Jeeps with a baby seat in the back in Tennessee.     I always thought, "lucky kids".   

[Laconian]

1 cyl DOD. I wonder how that little cylinder makes enough power to overcome pumping losses

[Lebowski]

After seeing in person ... I really don't like what they did with styling. Current model is the best looking full sized truck by a mile, this one ... barf.

[giant_mtb]

After seeing in person ... I really don't like what they did with styling. Current model is the best looking full sized truck by a mile, this one ... barf.

Agreed.  GMT900 is peak modern truck, IMO.  11th-gen F-series is peak modern F-series, then Ford went all Transformer toy on them, especially the latest ones, and now everyone else is following suit.

[Soup DeVille]

1 cyl DOD. I wonder how that little cylinder makes enough power to overcome pumping losses

With the valves shut off, there are no pumping losses; energy used to compress the cylinder is returned.

Gotta sound rough though; and at idle, running on 1 cylinder; will it ever get warm enough to have heat?

[Lebowski]

Agreed.  GMT900 is peak modern truck, IMO.  11th-gen F-series is peak modern F-series, then Ford went all Transformer toy on them, especially the latest ones, and now everyone else is following suit.

Yeah, the current Ford looks terrible too, that's in part what makes the current Chevy/GMC stand out as so attractive in comparison.

[giant_mtb]

Yeah, the current Ford looks terrible too, that's in part what makes the current Chevy/GMC stand out as so attractive in comparison.

It's like tools.

[CaminoRacer]

With the valves shut off, there are no pumping losses; energy used to compress the cylinder is returned.

Gotta sound rough though; and at idle, running on 1 cylinder; will it ever get warm enough to have heat?

At idle it should just turn off.

[Soup DeVille]

At idle it should just turn off.

I wonder about that function too; gotta be hell on the starter motor.

[GoCougs]

With the valves shut off, there are no pumping losses; energy used to compress the cylinder is returned.

Gotta sound rough though; and at idle, running on 1 cylinder; will it ever get warm enough to have heat?

No pumping losses but there are losses from compressing air (heat) which is not insignificant.

I'm gonna guess that there's a good deal of Funny Business that goes on to make it tolerable. For example, it's a virtually a guarantee that it's not just one cylinder thumping away. I'm gonna guess that all cylinders are used in a "Russian Roulette" sort of fashion - for example, using a different cylinder for each crank rotation. Something like that, combined with active engine mounts, should make it tolerable.

Current DOD/AFM/start-stop monitors various vehicle parameters and will kick out if need be. For example, when sitting at a light in hot weather, cylinder start-stop will bow out in order to keep the AC compressor operating at some minimal threshold of effectiveness.

[CaminoRacer]

Current DOD/AFM/start-stop monitors various vehicle parameters and will kick out if need be. For example, when sitting at a light in hot weather, cylinder start-stop will bow out in order to keep the AC compressor operating at some minimal threshold of effectiveness.

The few times I drove my parents' new Cruze, the start/stop feature never actually kicked in. Not sure what I was doing wrong. I know you have to set A/C to Eco if you have it on, the engine has to be at normal operating temp, etc.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

As usual I'll take the GMC..... 

http://www.gminsidenews.com/articles/carbon-bedded-multi-pro-betailgated-connected-trailering-apped-gmc-sierra-denali-slt-launch/