Built in Detroit Roxor to start at $15,549.

[Payman]

https://jalopnik.com/the-mahindra-roxor-is-a-tiny-offroad-jeep-to-conquer-am-1823460351

https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-similar-the-mahindra-roxor-is-to-an-old-jeep-1823474555


Starting prices for the two trim levels, according to company representatives, will range from $15,549 to $18,999.

Well shit. Call me a hypocrite for dumping on $20K+ side-by-sides that aren't legal for the road. I want this. In my little hamlet south of Trenton, I can drive on the road for short distances (it's acceptable practice in most rural areas) and pick up the old railbed to a lot of riding areas. No need to haul it.

[Payman]

Yeah, perfectly good road-legal Wranglers can be had for $15-18,000. The Roxor might be irrational, but I still want one. I like the old-school mechanical Jeepness about it.

[12,000 RPM]

Man I wish someone would make a track only car like this

Big go kart please

Nice work Mahindra. Lets see if off roaders put their money where their mouths are

[veeman]

900 different paint color options is awesome. 

Too bad jeeps aren't built for snow plowing.  A covered one would be great for school or mall parking lots.

[93JC]

Huh, every headline I've seen about this has called it a "tiny Jeep", without really going into details. I think it says more about where we're at with modern cars, knowing now that this thing is about the width of a CJ-3 and length of a CJ-7.

[giant_mtb]

900 different paint color options is awesome. 

Too bad jeeps aren't built for snow plowing.  A covered one would be great for school or mall parking lots.

People put plows on their Jeeps (and side by sides) all the time...?

And, no, you don't want to plow a mall with a Jeep unless you wanna be there for 17 hours.  That's what front end loaders with plow attachments are for.

[Payman]

Yeah, lots of guys around here have plows on their SBSs.

[Soup DeVille]

900 different paint color options is awesome. 

Too bad jeeps aren't built for snow plowing.  A covered one would be great for school or mall parking lots.

Jeeps can and have plowed for- well, forever.

You use a smaller plow, that's all.

Mall parking lots? no man, you use front end loaders for that.

[Soup DeVille]

Huh, every headline I've seen about this has called it a "tiny Jeep", without really going into details. I think it says more about where we're at with modern cars, knowing now that this thing is about the width of a CJ-3 and length of a CJ-7.

no, this is a tiny Jeep;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M422_Mighty_Mite

For a while, you could get a new, road legal version of the M151A2 for around $14,000. It was called Titan something, and it looks to have disappeared off the internet completely. It would have been a great alternative to the Roxor.

[MX793]

Man I wish someone would make a track only car like this

Big go kart please

They already make those.  There are any number of small, inexpensive formula cars out there.  Google "F500" or "Formula 500".  A friend ran these for several years in SCCA before switching to a shifter kart.

[CaminoRacer]

They already make those.  There are any number of small, inexpensive formula cars out there.  Google "F500" or "Formula 500".  A friend ran these for several years in SCCA before switching to a shifter kart.

I'm probably gonna go that route at some point. El Camino, DD sports car, family car, racing kart. I can use the El Camino to haul the kart.

[veeman]

All you guys saying that you can plow with a Jeep... When I was seriously considering buying one all of the Jeep Wrangler forums were indicating that it was a terrible idea.  Just like putting a plow on my Infiniti QX56.  The frame isn't sturdy enough, especially for heavy wet snow, and if you do it with any regularity you'll mess up your car.  They're just not designed for it unlike a 3/4 ton class pickup.  It's different if you get a used beater Wrangler and just use it for your driveway. Even then you gotta be real careful that you don't push too heavy snow.  You'll mess up the frame and transmission.

Yeah you're right for a mall it's too small anyways. 

[Soup DeVille]

All you guys saying that you can plow with a Jeep... When I was seriously considering buying one all of the Jeep Wrangler forums were indicating that it was a terrible idea.  Just like putting a plow on my Infiniti QX56.  The frame isn't sturdy enough, especially for heavy wet snow, and if you do it with any regularity you'll mess up your car.  They're just not designed for it unlike a 3/4 ton class pickup.  It's different if you get a used beater Wrangler and just use it for your driveway. Even then you gotta be real careful that you don't push too heavy snow.  You'll mess up the frame and transmission.

Yeah you're right for a mall it's too small anyways. 

Hmmm, forums versus real world experience...

I would expect Jeep forums to be more practically minded than most, but who knows?

[r0tor]

Snow plows fuck up anything smaller than a dump truck if used with any regulatory.  My old work had some F250 Super Duty trucks with a plow package and they still suffered.


I think I would get a Roxor before spending as much or more on a frikkin side by side that you can't use on the road... But that's about the only case I can figure out for one.

[MX793]

Snow plows fuck up anything smaller than a dump truck if used with any regulatory.  My old work had some F250 Super Duty trucks with a plow package and they still suffered.


I think I would get a Roxor before spending as much or more on a frikkin side by side that you can't use on the road... But that's about the only case I can figure out for one.

The Roxor isn't road legal either.  It's just a side-by-side dressed up to look like a Jeep.

[CaminoRacer]

Lots of side-by-sides are street legal in town.

[MX793]

Lots of side-by-sides are street legal in town.

Maybe if you live in the vast, sparsely populated states between the Mississippi and California (Utah, Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas, etc) that permit the use of ORVs/ATVs on public roads.  These are not street-legal in civilized places.  It fails to meet federal automotive safety standards, so it can't be registered as an automobile.

[Soup DeVille]

Maybe if you live in the vast, sparsely populated states between the Mississippi and California (Utah, Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas, etc) that permit the use of ORVs/ATVs on public roads.  These are not street-legal in civilized places.  It fails to meet federal automotive safety standards, so it can't be registered as an automobile.

In Michigan they'll sell "road legal" kits for these that add turn signals, windshield wipers and sprayers, and a couple other things.  You can then get them imspected and plated for road use.

[giant_mtb]

All you guys saying that you can plow with a Jeep... When I was seriously considering buying one all of the Jeep Wrangler forums were indicating that it was a terrible idea.  Just like putting a plow on my Infiniti QX56.  The frame isn't sturdy enough, especially for heavy wet snow, and if you do it with any regularity you'll mess up your car.  They're just not designed for it unlike a 3/4 ton class pickup.  It's different if you get a used beater Wrangler and just use it for your driveway. Even then you gotta be real careful that you don't push too heavy snow.  You'll mess up the frame and transmission.

Yeah you're right for a mall it's too small anyways. 

A plow wreaks havoc on any vehicle.  Come up here some time and marvel.

[r0tor]

The Roxor isn't road legal either.  It's just a side-by-side dressed up to look like a Jeep.

It's not road legal?  Will then fuck that

[93JC]

The Roxor isn't road legal either.  It's just a side-by-side dressed up to look like a Jeep.

Well, no, it's a licensed Jeep copy from India that is being sold over here as a side-by-side competitor. It fundamentally isn't much different from old Jeeps that were road legal decades ago.

[giant_mtb]

Maybe if you live in the vast, sparsely populated states between the Mississippi and California (Utah, Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas, etc) that permit the use of ORVs/ATVs on public roads.

And the UP.

[giant_mtb]

Have any of you even driven a SBS?  The hate is unwarranted...they're fuckin' badass.  Who cares if you can't drive it to the grocery store...that's not what it was designed for.  They're absolute animals in the dirt. 

[r0tor]

If it's not road legal, I don't see any benefit over a RZR

[CaminoRacer]

If it's not road legal, I don't see any benefit over a RZR

Get a VIN from a junkyard Jeep and make it legal.

[Soup DeVille]

If it's not road legal, I don't see any benefit over a RZR

It's probably more durable as a work/farm vehicle, but less capable off road.

Also, in many states most can be made road legal.

[MX793]

Get a VIN from a junkyard Jeep and make it legal.

In NY, if the VIN has been reported as salvaged/junked, you need to go through bunch of hoops and inspections to show that the vehicle is now road-worthy to register that VIN.  Said inspections will quickly show that the vehicle isn't a Jeep.

[CaminoRacer]

I recommend not living in NY

[MX793]

I recommend not living in NY

NY's not the only place that does it.  It goes beyond assuring road-worthiness.  It's a means of curbing car thefts and trafficking of stolen vehicles.  Heard a story about a guy who restored a classic Ford (Mustang, I think) and he removed the firewall VIN tag so he could repair some rust damage to the firewall in that area, then riveted it back on.  Took the car to a classic car auction and an inspector noted the new rivets on the VIN tag.  Car was impounded by the police until he could prove that was the actual VIN tag for that car.

[Morris Minor]

How do they manage to get a 2.5L turbodiesel to put out only 62HP?