Ford shitcanning all its cars but the Mustang.

[12,000 RPM]

Will be funny if the next admin rolls trucks and crossovers under CAFE. But the way things are looking an F150 will be doing 25-30 MPG combined with a mild hybrid setup and 30AT

[MX793]

Will be funny if the next admin rolls trucks and crossovers under CAFE. But the way things are looking an F150 will be doing 25-30 MPG combined with a mild hybrid setup and 30AT

Trucks/SUVs are already under CAFE.  There are 2 CAFE averages mfrs need to meet.  One for cars and one for light trucks (includes half-tons).  The Obama era regs call for light truck CAFE to be 30 mpg.

[HurricaneSteve]

Woah.  It's been a while.  How have you been?

Ah, sorry for the late reply! Got busy at work then went on a vacation. Pretty good! Made some moves, added a couple of cars and will be getting married later this year. How about yourself? Good to still see some of you around!

[HurricaneSteve]

Who the heck is Hurricane Steve?  I have a buddy named Steve for whom that name would make perfect sense, but.

Ha! I'm a frequent lurker who half the time can't remember their password so whatever response I had planned ends up going to waste.

[AutobahnSHO]

Ha! I'm a frequent lurker who half the time can't remember their password so whatever response I had planned ends up going to waste.

[giant_mtb]

Welcome (back?) to the madness.

[12,000 RPM]

Damn, this kind of bums me out. Fiesta ST we don't get. I prefer 3 bangers to 4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFneaU_8Ww4

[Xer0]

Pretty awesome that you can get an LSD in this thing.  I love that automakers are offering LSD's more and more now than ever before.  The 8th gen Si getting one was a novelty that set it apart now it seems like you can get them on everything.

[12,000 RPM]

I think the GTI just got rid of theirs. But yea, seems like a no brainer for high power FWD cars. Loved the one in my H22 Accord

[Xer0]

Yikes, I think you're right.  Just built one and all it says is "Cross Differential System XDS+" which I'm assuming is some brake based LSD.  Although they are announcing a higher performance GTI that has it so this is probably them trying to build differentiation between models.

[12,000 RPM]

It's kind of in the middle. It's a Haldex E-diff that doesn't quite work as well (13:41)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYjEHQjEzMw&t=821

I'm feeling like VW went this route to leverage their relationship with Haldex. Kind of a bummer

[Galaxy]

Not quite sure what the US gets, for Europe the ""regular" GTI has brake assisted LSD, the Performance version has a mechanical LSD.

[Payman]

Damn, this kind of bums me out. Fiesta ST we don't get. I prefer 3 bangers to 4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFneaU_8Ww4

*sigh* I'd trade in the Focus for this. A 2 door hot hatch is one of the few cars I'd buy new.

[Xer0]

You can get the current car for like 16k new in the states.  You want ford to offer this stuff you gotta act now.

[Payman]

You can get the current car for like 16k new in the states.  You want ford to offer this stuff you gotta act now.

2 door?

[Xer0]

Only ever offered as a 4 door in the states.

[Payman]

Only ever offered as a 4 door in the states.

Same up here. I know the market is small, but I'm fond of small 2 door hot hatches.

[CALL_911]

Heh, if I were to go back in time, I'd have picked a 4 door GTI instead of mine. Mine looks better, but having 2 doors is pretty fucking annoying on a day to day basis

[Payman]

Heh, if I were to go back in time, I'd have picked a 4 door GTI instead of mine. Mine looks better, but having 2 doors is pretty fucking annoying on a day to day basis

If you regularly have passengers, sure. I don't, and to me 2 doors looks better, is slightly lighter, makes for better ingress/egress, and is far more sporty.

[Xer0]

In a few years, when Ford is no longer building this type of car at any price point, letting the number of doors hold you up will seem petty.

[MX793]

Heh, if I were to go back in time, I'd have picked a 4 door GTI instead of mine. Mine looks better, but having 2 doors is pretty fucking annoying on a day to day basis

I actually think the 4-door GTI looks better than the 2-door from GenV and beyond.  The Fiesta works well as a 3-door because it's a little swoopier (like the Scirocco) and smaller.

[CALL_911]

I actually think the 4-door GTI looks better than the 2-door from GenV and beyond.  The Fiesta works well as a 3-door because it's a little swoopier (like the Scirocco) and smaller.

I always thought the 4 door GTI looked like a clown car- too many doors on too small a body.

But idk what it is, I think the 4 door MKVII looks way better than the 4 door MKVI.

[CALL_911]

If you regularly have passengers, sure. I don't, and to me 2 doors looks better, is slightly lighter, makes for better ingress/egress, and is far more sporty.

Even without passengers, it's nice for things like groceries or even carrying my backpack- being able to just throw shit in the back seat rather than use the trunk. More sporty? It's the same car!

[veeman]

Going from my Beetle to my Crosstrek and very often carrying kids in the backseat, the two doors in the Beetle never bothered me.  My older kid was/is coordinated and strong enough to open the passenger door from the backseat and let herself out without me having to open up the passenger side door for her.

[2o6]

I think the 5 door fiesta is lighter than the 3door.

[CALL_911]

That reminds me, I parked next to a Fiesta ST the other day. If it were out when I got the GTI, it would've been a serious contender. I really like that thing.

[12,000 RPM]

I probably should have looked at the GTI when I was car shopping....

[2o6]

Oh, BTW - the Focus Active is cancelled for the US.

[Payman]

Oh, BTW - the Focus Active is cancelled for the US.

Was it to be built in Mexico? Interesting it was cancelled right after the beautiful US - Mexico "trade deal".

[12,000 RPM]

China I think