Residents in the following places had the longest average daily commutes in the country: (the DC area and New Jersey were the big winners)
1. Linton Hall, Va: 46.3 minutes (each direction)
2. Marlboro, NJ: 46.0 minutes
3. Poinciana, Fla: 44.0 minutes
4. Tracey, Calif: 43.8 minutes
5. Vernon, NJ: 43.4 minutes
6. Brentwood, Calif: 43.4 minutes
7. Manalapan, NJ: 42.7 minutes
8. Fort Washington, Md: 42.5 minutes
9. West Windsor, NJ: 42.1 minutes
10. Los Bonos, Calif: 41.8 minutes
11. Clinton, Md: 41.7 minutes
12. Dale City, Va: 41.3 minutes
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/02/AR2009020203353.html
Quote from: ifcar on February 03, 2009, 06:34:25 AM
Residents in the following places had the longest average daily commutes in the country: (the DC area and New Jersey were the big winners)
1. Linton Hall, Va: 46.3 minutes (each direction)
2. Marlboro, NJ: 46.0 minutes
3. Poinciana, Fla: 44.0 minutes
4. Tracey, Calif: 43.8 minutes
5. Vernon, NJ: 43.4 minutes
6. Brentwood, Calif: 43.4 minutes
7. Manalapan, NJ: 42.7 minutes
8. Fort Washington, Md: 42.5 minutes
9. West Windsor, NJ: 42.1 minutes
10. Los Bonos, Calif: 41.8 minutes
11. Clinton, Md: 41.7 minutes
12. Dale City, Va: 41.3 minutes
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/02/AR2009020203353.html
I wonder what the average distances are for those 10 commutes? 40+ minutes behind the wheel can be somewhat of a pleasure or a pain in the butt depending on what you are doing during that time.
Quote from: Byteme on February 03, 2009, 07:01:05 AM
I wonder what the average distances are for those 10 commutes? 40+ minutes behind the wheel can be somewhat of a pleasure or a pain in the butt depending on what you are doing during that time.
I know in DC it comes largely from congestion.
Remember that these are offset by people who have tiny or no daily commute, leaving many people with well over an hour each way.
Cool. Maybe they should get a job closer to home. Maybe they should have gotten a job before choosing where to live. Or maybe I don't really give a damn if it takes them 43.4 minutes to drive to work. Kudos to them. What do they want?
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
Cool. Maybe they should get a job closer to home. Maybe they should have gotten a job before choosing where to live. Or maybe I don't really give a damn if it takes them 43.4 minutes to drive to work. Kudos to them. What do they want?
Not really an option for someone who works in DC.
Quote from: TBR on February 03, 2009, 07:36:39 AM
Not really an option for someone who works in DC.
That still doesn't change my opinion. What do they want us to do? Give them free headphones or something? So you drive to work. Big deal. I don't care. Work somewhere else if you don't like it.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2009, 07:39:28 AM
That still doesn't change my opinion. What do they want us to do? Give them free headphones or something? So you drive to work. Big deal. I don't care. Work somewhere else if you don't like it.
They don't expect you to do anything, it's just a study :huh:
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
Cool. Maybe they should get a job closer to home. Maybe they should have gotten a job before choosing where to live. Or maybe I don't really give a damn if it takes them 43.4 minutes to drive to work. Kudos to them. What do they want?
In the DC area, the closest thing to nice affordable housing is in Prince George's County, Md., (represented by Fort Washington and Clinton on the list) while many of the regional jobs are in Virginia. And getting across the Potomac during rush hour is hell.
I'm suprised that more California isn't more highly represented on the list.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
Cool. Maybe they should get a job closer to home. Maybe they should have gotten a job before choosing where to live.
Dude. Dude. A lot of us DID get the job before choosing where to live, and where to live was based on overall costs. Driving an hour or so to save a couple hundred grand on yourhouse is a normal thing. Plus, you might prefer the schools where you live vs ones closer to work.
My normal commute is a mere 15 minutes, but when I went to DC for training (only 50 miles away) it took me over 3 HOURS to get home.
Traffic around here can be insane. But, MD (espcially the areas around DC, has one of the highest per-capita incomes in the nation, so people make the sacrifice of commuting for a little longer. (I work at Social Security HQ in Woodlawn, MD, and a number of people commute down from PA, a couple hours away)
I did 65 miles one way through the sticks last summer vs 41 miles one way through the city.... the summer commute was 10 minutes quicker...
Quote from: ChrisV on February 03, 2009, 08:29:42 AM
Dude. Dude. A lot of us DID get the job before choosing where to live, and where to live was based on overall costs. Driving an hour or so to save a couple hundred grand on yourhouse is a normal thing. Plus, you might prefer the schools where you live vs ones closer to work.
My normal commute is a mere 15 minutes, but when I went to DC for training (only 50 miles away) it took me over 3 HOURS to get home.
Traffic around here can be insane. But, MD (espcially the areas around DC, has one of the highest per-capita incomes in the nation, so people make the sacrifice of commuting for a little longer. (I work at Social Security HQ in Woodlawn, MD, and a number of people commute down from PA, a couple hours away)
I've nothing against people that commute...I just think this is a really pointless "study". What are we to conclude? The city that has the longest average commute has the largest penis?
Quote from: ifcar on February 03, 2009, 07:51:54 AM
In the DC area, the closest thing to nice affordable housing is in Prince George's County, Md., (represented by Fort Washington and Clinton on the list) while many of the regional jobs are in Virginia. And getting across the Potomac during rush hour is hell.
Arlington, Fairfax? My aunt and uncle had a pretty nice pad in McLean.
exactly. Thank you.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2009, 09:16:35 AM
I've nothing against people that commute...I just think this is a really pointless "study". What are we to conclude? The city that has the longest average commute has the largest penis?
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2009, 09:16:35 AM
I've nothing against people that commute...I just think this is a really pointless "study". What are we to conclude? The city that has the longest average commute has the largest penis?
Most studies are pointless.
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on February 03, 2009, 08:02:23 AM
I'm suprised that more California isn't more highly represented on the list.
Because people try to live within 30 mins driving distance from there work. But that means you live within 5 miles of your work since traffic is bad. Plus, it seems like it's an average commute time for everyone in the city so if a lot of people are working cloth, it washes out those that works far away.
And it's Los Banos, CA... the bathroom of California.
Quote from: Tave on February 03, 2009, 09:29:48 AM
Arlington, Fairfax? My aunt and uncle had a pretty nice pad in McLean.
McLean median home value: $864,000.
Quote from: YO on February 03, 2009, 10:43:57 AM
the giant penis part
...why did you just quote yourself? Your own clarification? lol
Quote from: ifcar on February 03, 2009, 06:34:25 AM
6. Brentwood, Calif: 43.4 minutes
Although that's about how long it takes to go from there to downtown LA during rush hour, I would think that most people who live in Brentwood work in the neighboring cities of Santa Monica, Westwood, or Beverly Hills.
I'm surprised Riverside or Corona aren't on the list.
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 03, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
I'm surprised Riverside or Corona aren't on the list.
Don't remind me. I'd successfully repressed that painful memory.
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 03, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
Although that's about how long it takes to go from there to downtown LA during rush hour, I would think that most people who live in Brentwood work in the neighboring cities of Santa Monica, Westwood, or Beverly Hills.
I'm surprised Riverside or Corona aren't on the list.
Yeah, but I have coworkers that have to commute 2 + hours to get into work. But I think there's a high enough population that works in the Inland Empire that makes up for that.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2009, 09:16:35 AM
I just think this is a really pointless "study". What are we to conclude?
It may point out to people areas where you may find good paying jobs, but not really find afordable living close by, so you can make a rational decision about those places. I looked at info lik this when choosing where to live vis a vis my own job.
It might also point out areas where you will use more gasoline on your commute, affecting choice of car in those areas.
If I get Andrews AFB next I'll be pissed
Quote from: ChrisV on February 03, 2009, 11:12:56 AM
It may point out to people areas where you may find good paying jobs, but not really find afordable living close by, so you can make a rational decision about those places. I looked at info lik this when choosing where to live vis a vis my own job.
It might also point out areas where you will use more gasoline on your commute, affecting choice of car in those areas.
Or areas that need better highways.
the 91 freeway rocks!
Quote from: Tave on February 03, 2009, 11:05:27 AM
Don't remind me. I'd successfully repressed that painful memory.
Quote from: YO on February 03, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
the 91 freeway rocks!
:nutty:
well, maybe when you're on the toll/express lanes
Quote from: Byteme on February 03, 2009, 07:01:05 AM
I wonder what the average distances are for those 10 commutes? 40+ minutes behind the wheel can be somewhat of a pleasure or a pain in the butt depending on what you are doing during that time.
Yup, I commute an hour (one way) but it's really not too bad because I spend close to 50 minutes of it cruising on the highway. I'm not sure I'd say it's pleasurable, but it's not as bad as one might think.
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 03, 2009, 12:35:02 PM
:nutty:
well, maybe when you're on the toll/express lanes
Ignore him, he's always been kinda off.
can't be a cheap bastard... gotta pay to play...
Quote from: NomisR on February 03, 2009, 04:57:11 PM
Ignore him, he's always been kinda off.
Quote from: YO on February 03, 2009, 05:14:09 PM
can't be a cheap bastard... gotta pay to play...
If you're referring to the toll lanes, you could probably say the same thing about living in the IE in the first place
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 03, 2009, 05:21:15 PM
If you're referring to the toll lanes, you could probably say the same thing about living in the IE in the first place
+1
I'd live as far away from the 91 as possible.. especially the IE.
Quote from: NomisR on February 03, 2009, 05:27:03 PM
+1
I'd live as far away from the 91 as possible.. especially the IE.
I live 5 minutes from the closest 91 onramp :mask:
At least I'm on the good side of the mountains. Just barely, though.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
Cool. Maybe they should get a job closer to home. Maybe they should have gotten a job before choosing where to live. Or maybe I don't really give a damn if it takes them 43.4 minutes to drive to work. Kudos to them. What do they want?
That's easier said than done, unless you make a ton of money. Residences near employment centers are very expensive in certain parts of the country, so people who aren't at the top of the pay scale must either live in substandard neighborhoods or move toward the outer edges of the metropolitan area. The real estate boom of the last 10 years intensified the problem.
I represent the OC baby...
I only used my pass when I went golfing in Corona or Temucala...
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 03, 2009, 05:21:15 PM
If you're referring to the toll lanes, you could probably say the same thing about living in the IE in the first place
Quote from: MX793 on February 03, 2009, 04:56:06 PM
Yup, I commute an hour (one way) but it's really not too bad because I spend close to 50 minutes of it cruising on the highway. I'm not sure I'd say it's pleasurable, but it's not as bad as one might think.
Our commute (my wife and I carpool) involves a 10 mile stretch of HOV lane. In Houston the HOV lanes are a single lane with shoulders wide enough to get around a dead car and they are separated from the normal lanes by concrete barriers. A couple of times we've driven the Jag to work and got on an empty HOV lane in the early afternoon going home. No way for cops to get you, no traffic in the lane. I've hit double the speed limit (120) on the straight stretches. Sometimes commutes can be a hoot. :lol:
in the ATL, cops are all over the HOV lanes
Quote from: Byteme on February 03, 2009, 08:43:11 PM
Our commute (my wife and I carpool) involves a 10 mile stretch of HOV lane. In Houston the HOV lanes are a single lane with shoulders wide enough to get around a dead car and they are separated from the normal lanes by concrete barriers. A couple of times we've driven the Jag to work and got on an empty HOV lane in the early afternoon going home. No way for cops to get you, no traffic in the lane. I've hit double the speed limit (120) on the straight stretches. Sometimes commutes can be a hoot. :lol:
Quote from: YO on February 03, 2009, 08:33:30 PM
I represent the OC baby...
I only used my pass when I went golfing in Corona or Temucala...
So do I. Heading east, you aren't going anywhere anytime soon without that EZ pass
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 03, 2009, 10:08:26 PM
So do I. Heading east, you aren't going anywhere anytime soon without that EZ pass
I still don't understand why 91 gets so backed up.. is it because of the hill plus the big sweeping curves that makes people step on their brakes for no reason slowing down traffic?
Quote from: NomisR on February 04, 2009, 09:57:09 AM
I still don't understand why 91 gets so backed up.. is it because of the hill plus the big sweeping curves that makes people step on their brakes for no reason slowing down traffic?
Because people are a bunch of idiots and most shouldn't have a license.
Quote from: NomisR on February 04, 2009, 09:57:09 AM
I still don't understand why 91 gets so backed up.. is it because of the hill plus the big sweeping curves that makes people step on their brakes for no reason slowing down traffic?
Thankfully, I don't head eastbound that often, but my best guess is bottleneck traffic from all the cars coming in from the 241 and the 71...
my old commute was from Fullerton to Yorba Linda... it was quiker taking Yorba Linda Blvd to the 91
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 04, 2009, 10:41:52 AM
Thankfully, I don't head eastbound that often, but my best guess is bottleneck traffic from all the cars coming in from the 241 and the 71...
Quote from: YO on February 04, 2009, 11:17:04 AM
my old commute was from Fullerton to Yorba Linda... it was quiker taking Yorba Linda Blvd to the 91
Try driving east past Weir Canyon on the 91 any time after 5PM and tell me that still rocks.
While you're at it, try using SAC and La Palma to Gypsum to get around it.
That freeway is just about the worst bottleneck on the entire West Coast.
The places with long average commutes probably have very good train and public transportation access.
there is a train going up the 91 from Fullerton...
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on February 05, 2009, 09:37:24 AM
The places with long average commutes probably have very good train and public transportation access.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on February 05, 2009, 09:37:24 AM
The places with long average commutes probably have very good train and public transportation access.
I know the two on that list in Maryland don't. Their only public transportation is buses, and both are largely suburban sprawl that makes bus transit difficult.