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Title: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:32:15 PM
I've entered a Chrysler sweepstakes where the winner gets $30,000 towards the purchase of any new Chrysler, Jeep, or Dodge. I always sign up for these things when I see them, but this one begs the question: what does Chrysler build that I'd want?

Let's say you have hypothetically won, so you'd need to follow the contest rules. You get to pick any Chrysler product with a sticker price of $30,000 or less. If less, you don't get to keep the difference. You have to pay for taxes/tags/etc. You're allowed to re-sell the vehicle if you so desire.

What do you pick?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: NomisR on February 05, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
Can I get multiple vehicles?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: The Pirate on February 05, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
I just built a Charger R/T that comes to $30, 785 (N Package RWD with sunroof) after discounts.  I suppose I'd take that.

Or a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (6-speed manual), that comes to $28,315 after discounts.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
Quote from: NomisR on February 05, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
Can I get multiple vehicles?

Don't think so, but why would you want multiple Chryslers?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: The Pirate on February 05, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
I just built a Charger R/T that comes to $30, 785 (N Package RWD with sunroof) after discounts.  I suppose I'd take that.

Or a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (6-speed manual), that comes to $28,315 after discounts.

The sweepstakes require you to go by sticker price.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 05, 2009, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: NomisR on February 05, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
Can I get multiple vehicles?

What do you want, two base-model Calipers? :lol:

If I could get a Challenger V6 with a god damn manual transmission, I might go for that.
Otherwise, the Caliper SRT-4 would work for me.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Tave on February 05, 2009, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: The Pirate on February 05, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
Or a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (6-speed manual), that comes to $28,315 after discounts.

:hesaid:

/thread
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Payman on February 05, 2009, 04:47:36 PM
Challenger R/T and gladly pay the difference. Blue or Plum Crazy with the flat black R/T stripes.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Atomic on February 05, 2009, 04:48:25 PM
i would opt for a dodge challenger (1st pick), dodge charger (2nd), a Jeep Liberty, perhaps... if i could add to the amount, a chrysler 300c or higher priced challenger, jeep commander or any srt-8 challeger, 300c or charger -- or perhaps a grand cherokee srt-8. i also like the chrysler aspen. you have to drive one to appreciate it -- not unlike a cadillac escalade -- SURPRISINGLY!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: SVT666 on February 05, 2009, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: Payman on February 05, 2009, 04:47:36 PM
Challenger R/T and gladly pay the difference. Blue or Plum Crazy with the flat black R/T stripes.
The rules don't allow that.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on February 05, 2009, 04:49:39 PM
Quote from: Payman on February 05, 2009, 04:47:36 PM
Challenger R/T and gladly pay the difference. Blue or Plum Crazy with the flat black R/T stripes.
Yep! Thats the only one I can think of.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 05, 2009, 04:50:44 PM
On the Dodge website, there is absolutely no way to get a Challenger with a manual transmission. That is retarded.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:51:26 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 05, 2009, 04:49:29 PM
The rules don't allow that.

They might let you make up the difference after $30k. The rules aren't actually clear on that point, and I can't see Chrysler turning away your money.

You'd probably have to pay full sticker to get your $30k rebate though.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Payman on February 05, 2009, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 05, 2009, 04:49:29 PM
The rules don't allow that.

Why? I thought it was $30,000 TOWARDS the purchase of a new Chrysler.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: TBR on February 05, 2009, 04:52:16 PM
That's shockingly challenging. I think I would pretty much have to take a Challenger SE.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: NACar on February 05, 2009, 04:50:44 PM
On the Dodge website, there is absolutely no way to get a Challenger with a manual transmission. That is retarded.

You can with the V8s, but not on the V6.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: SVT666 on February 05, 2009, 04:53:22 PM
Challenger R/T with a 6 speed is $30,540.  Fuck.  Well, I would take a Challenger R/T with the goddamn auto = $29,545
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: The Pirate on February 05, 2009, 04:53:29 PM
How do I enter this thing, BTW?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: SVT666 on February 05, 2009, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Payman on February 05, 2009, 04:51:32 PM
Why? I thought it was $30,000 TOWARDS the purchase of a new Chrysler.
He stated $30K or less, but it seems he's changing his mind now.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: The Pirate on February 05, 2009, 04:53:29 PM
How do I enter this thing, BTW?

They were giving out pass codes at the auto show, and they're allegedly at dealerships too. It isn't valid for NY, though.

PA, WV, DE, MD, VA, OH, NC, NJ, DC.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:56:35 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 05, 2009, 04:54:28 PM
He stated $30K or less, but it seems he's changing his mind now.

The rules aren't clear. I didn't write them.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: SVT666 on February 05, 2009, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:51:26 PM
They might let you make up the difference after $30k. The rules aren't actually clear on that point, and I can't see Chrysler turning away your money.

You'd probably have to pay full sticker to get your $30k rebate though.
Well then.  If that's the case, I would get...

2009 Challenger R/T J Package RWD      $31,755
HEMI Orange Pearl Coat Exterior Paint      
Dark Slate Gray Interior      
Leather-Trimmed Bucket Seats      
6-Speed Manual Transmission      
5.7-Liter V8 HEMI
Sound Group II      
AM/FM Stereo Radio w/In-Dash 6-Disc CD/DVD/MP3 Plyr      
3.73 Axle Ratio      
Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle      
Bright Accelerator, Brake and Clutch Pedals      
Hill Start Assist      
Performance Steering w/Variable Displacement Pump      
Track Pak      
276-Watt Amplifier      
Automatic Headlamps      
Heated Front Seats      
Luxury Front and Rear Floor Mats      
Power Heated Fold Away Mirrors      
Body-Color Exterior Mirrors      
uconnect studios   
Engine Block Heater      
High-Intensity Discharge Headlamps      
Power Sunroof      
R/T Hood to Fender Stripes      
7 Boston Acoustics Speakers with Subwoofer      
Lifetime Powertrain Warranty      
Destination Charge      
BC Chrysler Financial Bonus Cash *   -$1,000

Net MSRP $34,895

Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 05, 2009, 05:00:49 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:52:54 PM
You can with the V8s, but not on the V6.

I just figured that out, but that website makes it a real pain in the ass.

Caliper SRT-4, black, leather, sunroof, polished aluminum wheelz, Kickin' stereo, MSRP $27,835.

Challenger R/T is tempting, but I wouldn't want a car like that with an automatic.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2009, 05:01:26 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
Don't think so, but why would you want multiple Chryslers?

Multiple drivers in need of multiple cars.

To your question: Wrangler Rubicon, or the last of the PTs.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 05:01:30 PM
I'm trying to get back to the official rules page so anyone who wants can interpret them, but the e-mail they sent me says only "See official rules at Insert Rules link Here  for details."

Ahh, Chrysler quality.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: SVT666 on February 05, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: NACar on February 05, 2009, 05:00:49 PM
I just figured that out, but that website makes it a real pain in the ass.

Caliper SRT-4, black, leather, sunroof, polished aluminum wheelz, Kickin' stereo, MSRP $27,835.

Challenger R/T is tempting, but I wouldn't want a car like that with an automatic.
The manual transmission puts the Challenger at $30,540.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
http://itsyourchoicesweeps.com/rules.htm

QuoteGrand Prize (1): a $30,000 allowance towards the purchase of a new Dodge, Chrysler or Jeep? vehicle.  Maximum retail value: $30,000.  The allowance may be applied towards the purchase of a single Dodge, Chrysler or Jeep? vehicle of $30,000 or less (including factory options) based on the manufacturer?s suggested retail price. 

The rules seem contradictory on the point of whether you can pay extra for extra car, no?

Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: MrH on February 05, 2009, 05:07:54 PM
I can't even configure a challenger with a manual here...?

I'd probably get a Ram.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: SVT666 on February 05, 2009, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 05, 2009, 04:59:22 PM
Well then.  If that's the case, I would get...

2009 Challenger R/T J Package RWD      $31,755
With options...
Net MSRP $34,895


It's cheaper to buy this car in Canada.  The same car here is $37,580.  According to the exchange rate, the Canadian Challenger should cost $43,620.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: SVT666 on February 05, 2009, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
http://itsyourchoicesweeps.com/rules.htm

The rules seem contradictory on the point of whether you can pay extra for extra car, no?


Well, that rules out my Challenger R/T 6 speed.  I will take a Challenger R/T auto.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2009, 05:10:39 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
http://itsyourchoicesweeps.com/rules.htm

The rules seem contradictory on the point of whether you can pay extra for extra car, no?



Sort of, but it is clear that its only for a single car.

I think its safe to assume its a maximum of $30,000, that you can only apply to car worth less than $30,000.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 05, 2009, 05:10:39 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 05, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
The manual transmission puts the Challenger at $30,540.

I DON'T MAKE UP THA ROOLZ  :huh:

The Calipwer would be quite enough fun, I'm sure of it.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2009, 05:10:39 PM
Sort of, but it is clear that its only for a single car.


It would only be one car anyway. There is no Chrysler with a sticker price of under $15,000.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: 2o6 on February 05, 2009, 05:26:07 PM
Caliber SRT-4. A spec-ed out Patriot.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: NomisR on February 05, 2009, 05:28:09 PM
Quote from: NACar on February 05, 2009, 04:47:13 PM
What do you want, two base-model Calipers? :lol:

If I could get a Challenger V6 with a god damn manual transmission, I might go for that.
Otherwise, the Caliper SRT-4 would work for me.

I remember a dealer was selling brand new PT Cruisers for $9995.  I can get 3 of them, and sell it for more money than 1 Challenger since lower value cars depreciate less so I can make off with more cash.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: NomisR on February 05, 2009, 05:28:09 PM
I remember a dealer was selling brand new PT Cruisers for $9995.  I can get 3 of them, and sell it for more money than 1 Challenger since lower value cars depreciate less so I can make off with more cash.  :lol:

The sweepstakes is based on the sticker price. So are most depreciation ratings for that matter, so if you've gotten a car way under sticker its value isn't dropping by as much compared to the sticker.

But depreciation would factor into my choice too -- the Challenger would be in the highest demand for me to re-sell it and pocket $25,000 or so.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: the Teuton on February 05, 2009, 05:42:36 PM
Does Chrysler even make a car I'd want right now?

Maybe a Wrangler, SRT-4, or a Dakota...

...other than that, not much is coming to mind...Patriot?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: NomisR on February 05, 2009, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 05, 2009, 05:37:19 PM
The sweepstakes is based on the sticker price. So are most depreciation ratings for that matter, so if you've gotten a car way under sticker its value isn't dropping by as much compared to the sticker.

But depreciation would factor into my choice too -- the Challenger would be in the highest demand for me to re-sell it and pocket $25,000 or so.

If that's the case then it's a really hard choice.  Are Chrysler really doing that bad that they can't even give a car away?  :lol:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Vinsanity on February 05, 2009, 06:16:20 PM
Challenger R/T without a doubt, although the idea of a free utility hauler like a Jeep or a truck is pretty tempting.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: S204STi on February 05, 2009, 07:21:32 PM
Jeep Wrangler, hands down.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: TBR on February 05, 2009, 07:29:27 PM
I think I would follow ifcar's lead and chose whatever vehicle I could recoup the most value from. That probably means a Challenger R/T AT or a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited optioned right up to $30k.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on February 06, 2009, 10:10:40 AM
Quote from: TBR on February 05, 2009, 07:29:27 PM
I think I would follow ifcar's lead and chose whatever vehicle I could recoup the most value from. That probably means a Challenger R/T AT or a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited optioned right up to $30k.

Me too.

I was thinking that my mom could use a new car, but frankly, I'm not sure that a Dodge Avenger/Chrysler Sebring is much better than a 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue.

My dad could probably use a new truck, but the Dakota is a big thirsty pig.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: 93JC on February 06, 2009, 02:43:39 PM
A Wrangler.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on February 06, 2009, 02:49:07 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 06, 2009, 02:43:39 PM
A Wrangler.

I could probably use that as a winter beater, but I'd hate to have to drive it in the summer when gas is expensive and the roads are dry.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: 93JC on February 06, 2009, 02:53:02 PM
Lame. That's when I'd be heading to the Rockies for some offroading. Top down, doors off... fuck man, that's what it's all about.  :mrcool:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Tave on February 06, 2009, 02:55:26 PM
It's a shame they don't offer it with a I4 anymore; that V6 is thirsty.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Tave on February 06, 2009, 02:57:24 PM
A friend of mine who lives in Vancouver came to town last summer and this guy lent her his Unlimited Rubicon. That thing was tits. We had a blast in it: camping, going to the lake, driving over random shit... :rockon:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: 93JC on February 06, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: Tave on February 06, 2009, 02:55:26 PM
It's a shame they don't offer it with a I4 anymore; that V6 is thirsty.

It's so heavy and unaerodynamic it doesn't matter if it has a four-banger or six: either way fuel economy will be shite.

Quote from: Tave on February 06, 2009, 02:57:24 PM
A friend of mine who lives in Vancouver came to town last summer and this guy lent her his Unlimited Rubicon. That thing was tits. We had a blast in it: camping, going to the lake, driving over random shit... :rockon:

EXACTLY. Fuck, I thought for a second I was the only one who understood.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Raza on February 06, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
I would get a Challenger R/T, if you can go over the 30K and pay the difference. 

Dark Slate Gray leather interior, Dark Titanium Metallic exterior, power sunroof (YES!), 6MT (YES!), Sound Group II, MSRP with Destination minus Bonus Cash = $33,960 ($34,960 without bonus discount).  I'd gladly pay the extra over 30K. 

If not, that's a tougher choice.  I mean, there are no sedans or convertibles or coupes that I would buy from them other than a manual Challenger, so that means I should try to get something a little more practical, right?

(Side note: they still sell the Crossfire?  The car on which it's based has been out of production for like five years!  And it costs 35 grand!?  Fuck!)

If I can't go over 30K, I'd take a Patriot or Wrangler Unlimited.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 06, 2009, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Tave on February 06, 2009, 02:55:26 PM
It's a shame they don't offer it with a I4 anymore; that V6 is thirsty.

My 2.5 four banger YJ was a thirsty dog as well. i don't think it makes much difference.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Chrysler sweepstakes question
Post by: NomisR on February 06, 2009, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: Raza  on February 06, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
I would get a Challenger R/T, if you can go over the 30K and pay the difference. 

Dark Slate Gray leather interior, Dark Titanium Metallic exterior, power sunroof (YES!), 6MT (YES!), Sound Group II, MSRP with Destination minus Bonus Cash = $33,960 ($34,960 without bonus discount).  I'd gladly pay the extra over 30K. 

If not, that's a tougher choice.  I mean, there are no sedans or convertibles or coupes that I would buy from them other than a manual Challenger, so that means I should try to get something a little more practical, right?

(Side note: they still sell the Crossfire?  The car on which it's based has been out of production for like five years!  And it costs 35 grand!?  Fuck!)

If I can't go over 30K, I'd take a Patriot or Wrangler Unlimited.

Dude, just price it for 30k, sell it off for 20k, after taxes, you still net 15k, not bad