https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/g23320934/car-history/?utm_source=facebook_arb&utm_medium=cpm&utm_campaign=arb_fb_pop_m_i_g23320934
This list may not go back far enough for some of our older members, like Dave (it only goes back as far as 1918), but pretty much everyone should be covered.
I was one year off the Testarossa, but I got the 560SEL, which is still a cool car. What was your car?
I was cringing as I was clicking through to 1968, but they got it right... Dodge Charger.
Dino 206 GT and Ferrari 330 GTS would have been acceptable as well.
Dodge Charger
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Integra.
I'll take that, my parents had an Integra ('92) and it was a cool little car. I always wished they kept it around until I could drive
(https://i.postimg.cc/VsBQ1tKp/09.jpg)
Vette. Oh,ya.
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/1953-1537562529.jpg?crop=1xw:1xh;center,top&resize=768:*)
Blah! '73 Monte Carlo
What's the worst year?
1984, 1998, 2000?
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Quote from: cawimmer430 on June 26, 2020, 10:15:50 AM
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girl at my first year of college had one of those (1993). Someone keyed it. :(
Volvo 242/244/245
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 26, 2020, 01:48:59 PM
girl at my first year of college had one of those (1993). Someone keyed it. :(
Last year of the G-body was 1987.
Quote from: Rockraven on June 26, 2020, 05:56:11 PM
Last year of the G-body was 1987.
Maybe he was in college in 1993 and the car was a few years old.
Quote from: Rockraven on June 26, 2020, 05:56:11 PM
Last year of the G-body was 1987.
Ah, the year of the third brake light, IIRC.
Quote from: Laconian on June 26, 2020, 06:00:19 PM
Maybe he was in college in 1993 and the car was a few years old.
But, is he saying his first year of college was 1993, or the car was a '93?
1956: Continental Mark II
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Quote from: Morris Minor on June 27, 2020, 05:57:57 AM
1956: Continental Mark II
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What a simple and elegant design, compared to everything else from the mid to late '50s.
For 1965 I'd have chosen the Renault 16 - the first successful hatchback.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Renault_16_TS_002.JPG)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on June 26, 2020, 10:15:50 AM
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That seems very on brand for you. :lol:
I didn't know all E28 M5s were black. How very Model T of them.
Quote from: Raza on June 26, 2020, 09:38:15 AM
https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/g23320934/car-history/?utm_source=facebook_arb&utm_medium=cpm&utm_campaign=arb_fb_pop_m_i_g23320934
This list may not go back far enough for some of our older members, like Dave (it only goes back as far as 1918), but pretty much everyone should be covered.
I was one year off the Testarossa, but I got the 560SEL, which is still a cool car. What was your car?
Haha, I'm old but not that old.
I felt really old when I saw the car for my year - the Studebaker Avanti. I never heard of it. My mom had a Studebaker Lark when I was a baby but I don't remember it
OMG you've never heard of the Avanti? :wub:
Quote from: Rockraven on June 27, 2020, 05:54:12 PM
OMG you've never heard of the Avanti? :wub:
I didn't know it was a Studebaker.
Quote from: dazzleman on June 27, 2020, 05:56:36 PM
I didn't know it was a Studebaker.
Probably the most successful Italian design by a domestic manufacturer.
Quote from: dazzleman on June 27, 2020, 05:43:10 PM
Haha, I'm old but not that old.
I felt really old when I saw the car for my year - the Studebaker Avanti. I never heard of it. My mom had a Studebaker Lark when I was a baby but I don't remember it
The Avanti was the fastest production car when it was first produced, 178 mph apparently...on the Salt flats I believe. I coveted them when it first came out.
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 27, 2020, 06:24:42 PM
The Avanti was the fastest production car when it was first produced, 178 mph apparently...on the Salt flats I believe. I coveted them when it first came out.
I can't believe that a stock Avanti did 178
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 27, 2020, 07:06:38 PM
I can't believe that a stock Avanti did 178
That was wiki, other articles claim 169. This was the supercharged version.
https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/studebaker-avanti-worlds-fastest-production-car/ (https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/studebaker-avanti-worlds-fastest-production-car/)
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Although it's best known today for its distinctive styling, back in the fall of 1962 Studebaker advertised its Avanti as "The World's Fastest Production Car." They backed up the claim with 29 new American national stock car records from the Bonneville Salt Flats, including the flying mile at 168.15 mph and 10 miles at 163.9 mph–and these were two-way averages. On the return leg of the 20-mile record run, the Avanti reached 178.5 mph.
The slippery Studebaker shattered record after record, blowing through the previous American Class C benchmark (held by a Dodge) by more than 50 mph. Fast indeed for a barely dry model that only 16 months earlier had been on the drawing board.
Was it a publicity stunt? Sure, but the United States Auto Club sanctioned each of these records. They also certified the Avanti R-3 as completely stock and fueled with Mobil premium pump gas.
Hotshoe Andy Granatelli, who knew a thing or two about driving fast–and even more about promoting merchandise-was president of Paxton Products at the time, and one of his superchargers wailed under the Avanti's hood. In a letter to Studebaker President Sherwood Egbert, Granatelli wrote, "The thing that never ceases to amaze me is the ease in handling the Avanti. I took four people [including the L.A. Times auto editor] for a ride at speeds from 166.6 to 172.5 mph, and in each instance I let go of the steering wheel for several thousand feet to prove how stable the Avanti really is."
Oh, 169 is totally different. Still can't believe it.
Quote from: Rockraven on June 27, 2020, 06:03:19 PM
Probably the most successful Italian design by a domestic manufacturer.
I'm really pleased that my.year is represented by such a cool car.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 27, 2020, 07:58:43 PM
Oh, 169 is totally different. Still can't believe it.
Some interesting specs...https://www.theavanti.com/r3.html (https://www.theavanti.com/r3.html)
Maybe you can do the math. :huh:
Quote from: dazzleman on June 27, 2020, 08:46:17 PM
I'm really pleased that my.year is represented by such a cool car.
I can't believe they're still such a sleeper in the market. A quick check shows you can still get a really nice one for under $40k. And that's the original, not the later Avanti II.
https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1963/studebaker/avanti/101339988
https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1963/studebaker/avanti/101336609
https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1963/studebaker/avanti/101314626
Quote from: Rockraven on June 28, 2020, 07:01:56 AM
I can't believe they're still such a sleeper in the market. A quick check shows you can still get a really nice one for under $40k. And that's the original, not the later Avanti II.
Studebaker Packard was struggling even through the '50s. They had beautiful designs thanks to Raymond Loewy, but the underpinnings were a bit ancient. I had a '57 Silver Hawk with the 289 Studebaker V8 which was a pretty stout engine, but the front suspension was still king pins. The Avanti was a last gasp for them and they ended on a high note.
The less said about the Avanti II, the better. :nono:
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 28, 2020, 07:21:49 AM
Studebaker Packard was struggling even through the '50s. They had beautiful designs thanks to Raymond Loewy, but the underpinnings were a bit ancient. I had a '57 Silver Hawk with the 289 Studebaker V8 which was a pretty stout engine, but the front suspension was still king pins. The Avanti was a last gasp for them and they ended on a high note.
The less said about the Avanti II, the better. :nono:
Wasn't the Avanti II basically a C3 Corvette?
Edit: a quick Wiki shows it did use 'Vette engines, but it used a few different chassis, including Monte Carlo, Caprice, and in the end its own chassis and Mustang engines.
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 28, 2020, 06:25:23 AM
Some interesting specs...https://www.theavanti.com/r3.html (https://www.theavanti.com/r3.html)
Maybe you can do the math. :huh:
Math is fun!
The supercharged, 400 gross horsepower, 170 mph R3 had a 3-speed automatic with a 1:1 3rd gear, a 3.73:1 rear end, and 6.70x15" tires.
I will be generous and say the 6.70x15 tire has a diameter of 27.5", and thusly a circumference of 86.4", or 7.2'.
5280' ÷ 7.2' = 733.3 revolutions per mile.
Let's say the R3 Avanti engine can somehow hit 7,000 RPM and not blow up. 7000 ÷ 3.73 rear end ratio = 1877 RPM at the wheels
1877 RPM ÷ 733.3 rev/mile = 2.56 miles/minute.
2.56 × 60 = 153.6 MPH. This is not fast enough.
In order to hit 170 MPH, 2.83 miles per minute, 2078 wheel RPM, the engine would have to hit 7751 RPM
and make enough power at that RPM in order to make the car go.
:muffin:
Quote from: dazzleman on June 27, 2020, 05:43:10 PM
Haha, I'm old but not that old.
I felt really old when I saw the car for my year - the Studebaker Avanti. I never heard of it. My mom had a Studebaker Lark when I was a baby but I don't remember it
I've heard of the Studebaker Avanti. It was a weird one; kind of fresh and futuristic looking, but with some touches that were old school.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 28, 2020, 08:05:23 AM
Math is fun!
The supercharged, 400 gross horsepower, 170 mph R3 had a 3-speed automatic with a 1:1 3rd gear, a 3.73:1 rear end, and 6.70x15" tires.
I will be generous and say the 6.70x15 tire has a diameter of 27.5", and thusly a circumference of 86.4", or 7.2'.
5280' ÷ 7.2' = 733.3 revolutions per mile.
Let's say the R3 Avanti engine can somehow hit 7,000 RPM and not blow up. 7000 ÷ 3.73 rear end ratio = 1877 RPM at the wheels
1877 RPM ÷ 733.3 rev/mile = 2.56 miles/minute.
2.56 × 60 = 153.6 MPH. This is not fast enough.
In order to hit 170 MPH, 2.83 miles per minute, 2078 wheel RPM, the engine would have to hit 7751 RPM and make enough power at that RPM in order to make the car go.
:muffin:
Considering that the top speed of a production Avanti was given as 135 mph, there is some question whether the 2 way record at the Salt Flats was achieved by a purely "stock" Avanti. Given that Andy Granatelli was a bit of a showman, it's conceivable that a few adjustments may have been made to the record setting Avanti.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vBRTVvt3/1942-1537557859.jpg)
That the car needed a push to get it going suggests that the differential ratio was not exactly stock, nor were the tires as stock tires would surely explode at that speed.
However, it was good publicity.
What is somewhat remarkable is that it did not become airborne.
Some more Avanti info...https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/1963-64-studebaker-avanti-3 (https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/1963-64-studebaker-avanti-3)
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For 1964, the Granatelli brothers took Studebaker performance one step further with the development of their R-3 and R-4 engines; a commonly cited figure is roughly 120 combined units. Creating the R-3 began with enlarging the cylinder bores by .093 inch, yet retaining the 3.625-inch stroke, resulting in a 304 cubic-inch short-block. Intake and exhaust valves were enlarged from 1.65/1.53 inches to 1.875/1.625 inches. A new cam was installed, combustion chambers were matched to 64cc, and compression was increased to 9.75:1. Amongst other goodies, a Paxton SN supercharger provided 6 pounds of boost to a 650-CFM Carter four-barrel. Although Studebaker never really announced the R-3's output, in "factory" trim it pushed 335hp and 320-lb.ft. of torque; some reports claim that by increasing RPM from 5,350 to 6,000, horsepower could exceed 400.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYwwqpWM/522701.jpg)
Quote from: Rockraven on June 26, 2020, 07:15:58 PM
But, is he saying his first year of college was 1993, or the car was a '93?
LOL Sorry, college was 1993. Car was not. :lol: