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Title: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 30, 2008, 11:25:46 PM
As some of you know, I utterly destroyed one of the rims on my Focus a month ago over a pothole. The tire shop replaced my rim and when they went to remount my tire found it would not hold air. Not a big problem except that Kelly tire no longer makes the Evo Z all season in 205/50/16. Also not a big problem but the tire they (not I) chose to match it with is a 300 tread wear rating Riken Raptor summer tire.

Basically, the car has very spooky driving characteristics in the snow now. Braking makes the rear end kick to one side, it oversteers like a RWD car and it just plain doesn't have enough grip.

I have to decide whether I want to keep the bad tire on there for the rest of the winter, replace the one summer tire with an all season, get another summer tire for L/R balance, or replace all 4 early. The other 3 still have quite a bit of life left in them, so I'm not sure I want to buy $300 tires now.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 30, 2008, 11:27:00 PM
You might try just having the summer tire siped as a stopgao measure.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: The Pirate on January 30, 2008, 11:35:47 PM
Buy two all season tires.  You'll have all seasons on all 4 corners, and a matching set on each axle.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 05:57:45 AM
So you hit a pothole hard enough to fuck your rim, but thought the tire would be ok?  :huh: :lol:
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:16:06 AM
Quote from: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 05:57:45 AM
So you hit a pothole hard enough to fuck your rim, but thought the tire would be ok?  :huh: :lol:

That makes me dumb? :huh: The tire shop didn't know either.

The tire had no visible damage. The blister must have been small.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: JYODER240 on January 31, 2008, 09:16:10 AM
I'll keep an eye out at work for any all-season tires in that size. If by chance we take some off a car with decent tread left i'll keep them and if you want to pay for the shipping you can have them.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 05:35:51 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on January 31, 2008, 09:16:10 AM
I'll keep an eye out at work for any all-season tires in that size. If by chance we take some off a car with decent tread left i'll keep them and if you want to pay for the shipping you can have them.

Thanks.

I'm going to check around locally. I'll see what the tire shops and salvage yards have.

I was too afraid to drive the car today because of all the close calls I had yesterday.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Sean on January 31, 2008, 06:02:47 PM
I has solution:
BURNOUTS!!!! :lol:
then get 4 new tires
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 31, 2008, 06:06:55 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:09:04 PM
You will not find a surface dry enough around here for that for a long time.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 31, 2008, 06:21:37 PM
Drive around with the handbrake on to make the rears bald, then swap them to the front and repeat? :mask: :lol:
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:24:29 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on January 31, 2008, 06:21:37 PM
Drive around with the handbrake on to make the rears bald, then swap them to the front and repeat? :mask: :lol:

That would just burn up my rear shoes. :nutty:

I have $50 in my bank account right now. I don't need an excuse to get new tires as I won't getting them anyway. I'll have to go used. Come Fall, I'll pick up 4 new Kumho ASX's.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 31, 2008, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:24:29 PM
That would just burn up my rear shoes. :nutty:

I have $50 in my bank account right now. I don't need an excuse to get new tires as I won't getting them anyway. I'll have to go used. Come Fall, I'll pick up 4 new Kumho ASX's.

If only they were 205/55/15s that you needed: I'd send two michelin A/S MXV4s to you for the cost of shipping
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:29:45 PM
Hell, I'd just come and pick them up. It's not that far.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 31, 2008, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:29:45 PM
Hell, I'd just come and pick them up. It's not that far.

It's supposed to snow tonight though...
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:32:29 PM
Doesn't matter anyway.

I actually have 4 205/70/14s sitting around in my shed. If I could find some 14" Escort rims, I'd have a silly looking, albeit effective set of tires!
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 08:47:54 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:16:06 AM
That makes me dumb? :huh: The tire shop didn't know either.

The tire had no visible damage. The blister must have been small.

No, but all the energy required to destroy the rim went through the tire, so I wouldn't expect it to be ok. 
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 08:51:54 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:32:29 PM
Doesn't matter anyway.

I actually have 4 205/70/14s sitting around in my shed. If I could find some 14" Escort rims, I'd have a silly looking, albeit effective set of tires!

The Focus uses a 4X108mm pattern, while all but the early 80's Escorts used 4X100.  205/70R14 is also significantly larger than the stock Focus 185/65R14.  If it did clear the struts, you woudn't be able to turn very sharply!
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 08:51:54 PM
The Focus uses a 4X108mm pattern, while all but the early 80's Escorts used 4X100.  205/70R14 is also significantly larger than the stock Focus 185/65R14.  If it did clear the struts, you woudn't be able to turn very sharply!

Err...the stock size is 205/50/16. 4x108 was used on the Escort from 81-90. 205/70/14 is probably too big, but it might work.

Looks like Contour would work too.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:39:28 PM
Quote from: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 08:47:54 PM
No, but all the energy required to destroy the rim went through the tire, so I wouldn't expect it to be ok. 

Tires are made out of rubber. Rubber can flex.
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 31, 2008, 09:40:03 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:38:26 PM
Err...the stock size is 205/50/16. 4x108 was used on the Escort from 81-90. 205/70/14 is probably too big, but it might work.

Looks like Contour would work too.
SVT Contour Cobra R wheels that Ed has would look awesome!
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on January 31, 2008, 09:40:03 PM
SVT Contour Cobra R wheels that Ed has would look awesome!

:rolleyes:

I'm talking about cheap (or free) winter wheels. Pay attention, son!
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 31, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:41:06 PM


:rolleyes:

I'm talking about cheap (or free) winter wheels. Pay attention, son!
Canada isn't that far away and Ed doesn't use his car... :devil:
You get free tires with it too!
Title: Re: Tire question
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on January 31, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Canada isn't that far away and Ed doesn't use his car... :devil:
You get free tires with it too!

Hey, that's not such a bad idea. :lol: