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Auto Talk => The Garage => Topic started by: 2o6 on November 16, 2012, 06:24:53 PM

Title: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: 2o6 on November 16, 2012, 06:24:53 PM
I purchased the OEM spec S front lip for my car.

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Looks like it has some issues with fitment from the brand new OEM spec and the older unit. Now it has these weird tabs that slot in the bumper (shown in the pics) whereas the 2007 year cars with the S bodykit didn't have these tabs.


The Japanese instruction manual shows a dremel tool in the illustration, drilling holes in the bumper. Other Yaris owners either have not had issues (no tabs) or they shaved the tabs.


Should I shave the tabs? Should I let my bodyman figure it out? It has all of the other hardware holes in the wheelwell and underneath the bumper.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 06:42:09 PM
If you got the Japanese lip (and why else would the insturctions be in Japanese?), they will generally NOT fit domestic front bumpers.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 16, 2012, 06:42:11 PM
What dilemma?
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: 2o6 on November 16, 2012, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 06:42:09 PM
If you got the Japanese lip (and why else would the insturctions be in Japanese?), they will generally NOT fit domestic front bumpers.

No, it's the USDM lip. There's just no English instructions. It fits the bottom and side mounts perfectly.


Should I shave the tabs, or just let the bodyman handle it?
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 07:03:36 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on November 16, 2012, 06:59:53 PM
No, it's the USDM lip. There's just no English instructions. It fits the bottom and side mounts perfectly.


Should I shave the tabs, or just let the bodyman handle it?

Either shave them or cut the holes for them; but if either of those make you nervous, let somebody else do it.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: S204STi on November 16, 2012, 08:04:10 PM
Jesus God... 
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: 2o6 on November 16, 2012, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: S204STi on November 16, 2012, 08:04:10 PM
Jesus God... 

???


I'm not sure why you guys think it's a rice part, it's the stock lip that's supposed to go on the car. If I were to ever resell the car, I want it to look factory.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 08:53:33 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on November 16, 2012, 08:48:19 PM
???


I'm not sure why you guys think it's a rice part, it's the stock lip that's supposed to go on the car. If I were to ever resell the car, I want it to look factory.

The thing is: not 1 person in 50 is going to ever factor that lip into their purchase decision.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: 2o6 on November 16, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 08:53:33 PM
The thing is: not 1 person in 50 is going to ever factor that lip into their purchase decision.

If it doesnt match the rest of the car, they will notice.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on November 16, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
If it doesnt match the rest of the car, they will notice.

A dealer is not going to give you any consideration for it on a trade-in, one way or the other: and a person shopping for a private party used Yaris? They're looking for cheap transportation; whether or not it has all matching original equipment on it won't be amongst their concerns.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 16, 2012, 11:02:23 PM
d00d,
Fix the car, do what you want to it, but remember- the VAST majority of time and money spent on cars you will never get more than a small percent worth back.  Do it because you enjoy it and want it, don't try to fool yourself otherwise.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 16, 2012, 11:03:07 PM
Oh and i'd wait and let the bodyshop mount it and paint it with the rest of the bumper...
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Rupert on November 17, 2012, 12:34:36 AM
This is silly. The Yaris ain't worth the effort, and that's totally fine.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: mzziaz on November 17, 2012, 12:59:35 AM
No dilemma. Get rid of the damn lip.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: cawimmer430 on November 17, 2012, 03:53:33 AM
The money spent on that bumper could have been used to purchase a Maserati Biturbo.  :facepalm:

:lol:
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Cookie Monster on November 17, 2012, 12:05:15 PM
lol, only on Carspin would a thread about bodywork turn into a financial advice thread.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: S204STi on November 17, 2012, 02:34:31 PM
I don't even care about whatever it cost him, it's just amusing that this is a dilemma.  Just goes to my point that the majority of people should not be allowed to even lift a tool.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: 850CSi on November 17, 2012, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on November 17, 2012, 12:05:15 PM
lol, only on Carspin would a thread about bodywork turn into a financial advice thread.

TBF, he kind of brought it on himself with the justification he provided.

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 16, 2012, 11:02:23 PM
d00d,
Fix the car, do what you want to it, but remember- the VAST majority of time and money spent on cars you will never get more than a small percent worth back.  Do it because you enjoy it and want it, don't try to fool yourself otherwise.

Pretty much this.


I'd let the body shop handle it.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 17, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Quote from: S204STi on November 17, 2012, 02:34:31 PM
I don't even care about whatever it cost him, it's just amusing that this is a dilemma.  Just goes to my point that the majority of people should not be allowed to even lift a tool.

Or, that people should be made to early on: and that nobody, nobody should ever look to the internet for advice on how to accomplish relatively simple projects.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: S204STi on November 17, 2012, 03:42:50 PM
Yep, just do it and find out how it all works.  Experience is the best teacher.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 17, 2012, 07:24:50 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 17, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Or, that people should be made to early on: and that nobody, nobody should ever look to the internet for advice on how to accomplish relatively simple projects.

Problem is that kids nowadays don't learn the simple tasks. I had to help my dad do a LOT of stuff in the house. Nowadays in our neighborhood it would be hard to go cut a tree down and split/stack firewood. We rent so no painting the house or putting a fence in.  My son WILL learn to take care of a yard next summer though. He'll be 14 and wifey paid a lawn guy while I was deployed, screw that!
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Rupert on November 18, 2012, 12:31:34 AM
Kids nowadays nothin'. If you grew up renting in the suburbs, it would have been the same for you.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 18, 2012, 01:50:28 AM
Quote from: Rupert on November 18, 2012, 12:31:34 AM
Kids nowadays nothin'. If you grew up renting in the suburbs, it would have been the same for you.

Fair enough. Still, kids nowadays...
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: Rupert on November 18, 2012, 01:54:18 AM
Always on the damn lawn and shit.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: giant_mtb on November 18, 2012, 02:21:18 AM
Do the tabs insert anywhere?  If yes, insert them there.

If no, figure out a way to either make the tabs worthwhile or figure out a different way to mount the thing and then you can take the tabs off if you want.

It's not fuckin' rocket science.  Figure it out.
Title: Re: "S" front lip dilemma
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 18, 2012, 06:41:02 AM
Quote from: Rupert on November 18, 2012, 12:31:34 AM
Kids nowadays nothin'. If you grew up renting in the suburbs, it would have been the same for you.

I guess so- when I was in 6th grade my parents bought in the suburbs instead of renting in trailer parks...