The official Auto-X thread

Started by MX793, August 21, 2016, 06:31:45 PM

r0tor

Losing a rear bumper probably made him violate his class rules
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Xer0

Looks like the cone is as annoyed by that color and body kit as I am.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: MX793 on March 12, 2018, 09:52:30 AM
Was that cone glued to the tarmac?  I've had cones dislodge fender liners, but that's the first time I've seen bodywork removed.

Sounds like a good idea. Make 1 cone out of concrete and fasten it to the tarmac with a piece of re-rod.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: Xer0 on March 12, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
Looks like the cone is as annoyed by that color and body kit as I am.

:lol:
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: MX793 on March 12, 2018, 09:52:30 AM
Was that cone glued to the tarmac?  I've had cones dislodge fender liners, but that's the first time I've seen bodywork removed.

I have no idea. I'm gonna blame the person who installed the bumper...
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CaminoRacer

The 2nd event of the year is March 31st. I have to be somewhere at 1 pm but I think I'm gonna go for the morning heats and leave at lunch. (we do 2 run groups, both get a morning & afternoon heat of ~3 runs)

I just wanna race, even if I only get half a days worth for the same price.
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MX793

Our first event is in May.  The snow SHOULD all be gone by then.  I hope.
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giant_mtb

That's about when all of ours is gone.  At least as far as roads and parking lots are concerned.

MX793

Quote from: giant_mtb on March 23, 2018, 05:36:53 PM
That's about when all of ours is gone.  At least as far as roads and parking lots are concerned.

Hoping both the snow is gone and we get some heavy rains to wash all of the sand off.

Actually, looking at the schedule, we don't have a single parking lot event.  We've got a few at a Police EVOC training facility, several on a runway at an old Army base, and a couple on a small road course at a private motor club (think Monticello, but smaller and less expensive membership).  Awesome set of venues.
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CaminoRacer

A Leaf showed up at the regional event yesterday. Looked decent. I wonder how hard it is to hotrod.
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Rich

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MX793

One of our regulars has run a Volt.  He normally runs a Cobra kit in EM, but when the forecast calls for rain, he'll run his Volt (in EM for the class points).  On non-performance tires, no less.
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Rich

Seneca Army Depot this weekend?
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MX793

Quote from: Rich on June 08, 2018, 01:08:58 PM
Seneca Army Depot this weekend?

This weekend is the national tour event (which sold out well ahead of the event).  Way out of my league and too serious for my liking. 

Also need new front tires (again) after the double header there last weekend.  Didn't cord them like last year, but one more event on aggressive concrete/pavement will.  Definitely getting some RE71s and dedicated wheels.  The Contis are a great tire, but I keep chewing up the shoulders on the fronts despite keeping tire pressures up.  Not sure if I just need wider fronts to contend with the weight, more camber (not really adjustable on this car), or if the sidewalls are just too soft.  I just can't afford to chew up front tires at the rate I am.  Also, I'm getting my ass kicked by guys running 200TW Autocross rubber (Rivals, RE71s, Star Specs, etc).
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Rich

Go next year after experience on the RE71s. I think it'd be fun to run a National tour event. I've seen the times in DS and there's a 10s+ spread for the weekend 1st to last. Not too bad. I think you'd do ok
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: MX793 on June 08, 2018, 02:48:49 PM
This weekend is the national tour event (which sold out well ahead of the event).  Way out of my league and too serious for my liking. 

Also need new front tires (again) after the double header there last weekend.  Didn't cord them like last year, but one more event on aggressive concrete/pavement will.  Definitely getting some RE71s and dedicated wheels.  The Contis are a great tire, but I keep chewing up the shoulders on the fronts despite keeping tire pressures up.  Not sure if I just need wider fronts to contend with the weight, more camber (not really adjustable on this car), or if the sidewalls are just too soft.  I just can't afford to chew up front tires at the rate I am.  Also, I'm getting my ass kicked by guys running 200TW Autocross rubber (Rivals, RE71s, Star Specs, etc).

How much camber do you have now? The sticky tires seem to want at least -2 degrees.
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MX793

Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 08, 2018, 03:10:10 PM
How much camber do you have now? The sticky tires seem to want at least -2 degrees.

Whatever it came with from the factory.  Doesn't appear to be any way to adjust it and still stay FS-legal.  The OE Pirellis, which had harder sidewalls, didn't have their shoulders chewed up like I've experienced with these Contis.  I blamed the first set of Contis on running them a bit too soft at one event.  Figured the sidewalls rolled from being soft.  Made sure to bump my pressures up since, but still rolling onto the shoulder even at over 40 psi.
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CaminoRacer

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MX793

#138
Quote from: Rich on June 08, 2018, 02:54:49 PM
Go next year after experience on the RE71s. I think it'd be fun to run a National tour event. I've seen the times in DS and there's a 10s+ spread for the weekend 1st to last. Not too bad. I think you'd do ok

Looked at the results.  Based on where people I've competed against ended up, I would've finished somewhere around 230 out of the 250ish entries.  Would've been dead last in class, 2.5 PAX seconds off the next car and 11+ seconds off the class winner.  Yeah, glad I didn't waste my time/money.
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MX793

Just ordered up a set of RE-71s on OZ Leggera HLTs.  265 wide fronts and 285 wide rears (up from 255 and 275).  The OZs are the exact same size as the factory wheels, right down to the offsets, so no issue staying FS compliant.  10 lbs lighter per corner than the factory wheels, too.  They were on clearance, which brought the price down to not too much more than getting another set of Mustang Performance Pack wheels.

Unfortunately, I lost a bit of overall diameter (~3% smaller), so I'll be hitting the rev limiter in 2nd (or using 3rd) even more often.  Really wish there was more selection of 200TW tires in larger sizes.  Selection for 19"+ diameter wheels is super limited and almost nothing if you're looking to maintain a 27"+ overall diameter tire.  Sucks for the pony cars because we're stuck having to pick tires that are smaller overall diameter than factory. 

Sounds like the firmer sidewalls are less prone to rolling over and resulting in the burned up shoulders I've been seeing on the Contis.  Hoping I can get the remainder of this season and a whole season after that on these because they're kind of pricey. 

Event next weekend, so I'm stoked to see if these give me better results.  I've been frustrated with my finishes this season.  I've been the fastest guy on legitimate street tires, but when half the field shows up on 200TW gumballs and most of them are of comparable experience and skill, it's hard to pull off much better than a mid-pack finish.
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MX793

They're here...



Gonna daily them the next couple of days to scrub off the mold release so they're ready to rock this weekend.  Didn't think I'd like the dark silver as much as I do.  The black wheels kind of gave the car a bit of a Bullitt vibe, but these work.  Would work even better if the tires were the same overall diameter as OE so the wheel gap wasn't quite as big...  Function over form, though.  I was a little scared about going wider on the front tires because there wasn't much clearance between the tire and the strut with the 255s (I'd guess ~10mm), but these still have enough gap that I'm not worried about rubbing.  Probably could have gotten away with 275s up front.
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Laconian

Lovely color on your Mustang..
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MX793

#145
Wrapped the season today.  Thought I was going to have to miss this one due to an oil leak that suddenly appeared earlier this week, but I was able to find and fix that issue myself pretty easily.  Ran on a private road course (Baby Monticello type of country club) with a few cones placed to keep the speeds down to a more Auto-X appropriate level (I think I might have been hitting 65-70 at the fastest point).  Also cut out the main straightaway, so you started at the end of the main straight (at pit road exit) and finished one turn before the start of the straight (a bit before pit road entrance).  Tons of elevation change at this place, which is a huge difference from cones in a parking lot or runway.  Definitely strange coming off a corner and seeing the road just drop away as you charge over a blind crest.  Unfortunately, I forgot my dash cam...  Here's a video of somebody else running the full, unaltered course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wKy4WOhJUg

The camera doesn't do the drop off after/in Turn 4 justice.  With that big pony car nose out in front, my first couple of runs before I figured out how to place the car were a little intimidating.  That and trusting the car to stick under power as the road is falling away and you're still turning slightly.  The Mustang felt really composed, though.  It felt better suited to the more flowing bends of a course like this than the tighter, wheel-sawing slaloms of a traditional auto-x (though, as noted, we threw in a couple of offsets/chicanes on some of the longer straights).  I left the ESC on in sport mode just to be safe, but I'm not sure I ever really felt it kick in.

Somehow managed to pull a pretty decisive class win.  When I saw the entry list, I saw a really fast driver from our neighboring region in a Focus RS and figured he'd be a shoe-in to win the class.  When I ran against him last year, he beat me by a couple of seconds every time, which is huge on a ~1 minute course.  I do have better tires now, but the tires I had last year were nothing to scoff at, either.  I was basically of the mindset that I'd be happy if I could keep within a second of him.  At the end of the morning runs, I was only trailing him by .001.  I figured he'd find some more time in the afternoon heats and pull away, I ended up shaving off considerably more time than he did, finishing with a pretty comfortable ~.6 second margin of victory.

Between a solid win today and a dominating win a couple of weeks ago, I put a bow on the class title.  Good thing I was able to fix my car and run, because if I hadn't been there, my main rival in the class championship would have scored enough points to overtake me.
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MexicoCityM3

Congrats!!!!! Excellent.

You are too modest. To win your class took some very good skills.

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