Nissan teases a buttload of new cars, including Z

[MX793]

Compare the vent locations, overall dash form, and the side windows/windshield/a pillar to the 370.  They don't have another front engine rwd platform I don't think?

They could have simply carried that over into a new platform, but I also strongly suspect this is still FM.  Hopefully they heavily reworked it (a la Fox to SN95 Mustang).  Guess we'll have to wait and see.

And it's not like FM is a bad platform.  Some suspension updates, maybe adaptive dampers, transmission update, and some tech refresh for modern amenities and you still get a pretty decent sports car, provided the price isn't outlandish.

[Rich]

https://twitter.com/BoziTatarevic/status/1306244736991268872

[afty]

It's interesting to compare this to the Supra, considering the cost pressures of building a low production sports car and how Toyota and Nissan each dealt with them.  Toyota chose to rebadge a completely unrelated car from a different manufacturer.  Nissan chose to do essentially a significant update and reskin to the existing but dated car.  But at least it's actually a Nissan.

[Payman]

It's interesting to compare this to the Supra, considering the cost pressures of building a low production sports car and how Toyota and Nissan each dealt with them.  Toyota chose to rebadge a completely unrelated car from a different manufacturer.  Nissan chose to do essentially a significant update and reskin to the existing but dated car.  But at least it's actually a Nissan.

Fair point, but how potentially awesome would a Nissan Z / Renault Alpine collaboration have been?

[MX793]

Fair point, but how potentially awesome would a Nissan Z / Renault Alpine collaboration have been?

I love the Alpine, but a mid-engine Z just isn't a Z.

[Payman]

I love the Alpine, but a mid-engine Z just isn't a Z.

Oof, did not think that one through. 

[Xer0]

I love the Alpine, but a mid-engine Z just isn't a Z.

Mid-engine Vette is still a Vette 

I've come around a lot to pure definitions of brands.  I'm okay with the Supra being a BMW, a Vette being Mid-engine, and M cars being turbo charged.  Progress is progress 

Hell, I've almost accepted the Mustang E.

[MX793]

Mid-engine Vette is still a Vette 

I've come around a lot to pure definitions of brands.  I'm okay with the Supra being a BMW, a Vette being Mid-engine, and M cars being turbo charged.  Progress is progress 

Hell, I've almost accepted the Mustang E.

Yeah, I suppose I could see that.  I've always viewed the Corvette as more of an apex sports car.  It's defined more as a high performance car that offers near exotic performance for a working man's budget.  The layout doesn't really matter as much as the function.  The layout was more a constraint of making it fit within a certain price point.  And they've teased mid-engine Corvettes for over 50 years.  Zora wanted to make the car mid engine back in the late 1960s or early 70s (but it was deemed too expensive at the time).  Now mid engine can be done within the target price, so they did it.

[Xer0]

Yeah, I suppose I could see that.  I've always viewed the Corvette as more of an apex sports car.  It's defined more as a high performance car that offers near exotic performance for a working man's budget.  The layout doesn't really matter as much as the function.  The layout was more a constraint of making it fit within a certain price point.  And they've teased mid-engine Corvettes for over 50 years.  Zora wanted to make the car mid engine back in the late 1960s or early 70s (but it was deemed too expensive at the time).  Now mid engine can be done within the target price, so they did it.

Yeah.  Like the Corvette can do whatever it wants as long as its the peak of GM performance.  That's more important than being FR.

The Z is important for it to be attainable.  If that can happen with MR then cool.

[AutobahnSHO]

IF they had made the headlights more 240z-ish by cutting them back into the body a bit it would have helped so much make the grill make sense.

[CaminoRacer]

[MX793]

It's a start.  Headlights still need some attention.

[Payman]

Take the sag out of the top of the side intakes, and give the outer edges an angle instead of vertical. I'm thinking backward angle, like a Ford GT40.

[Laconian]

I really think the lower arc in the headlights ruins the front. The rest of the car tries to look muscular with lots of planes and lines parallel to the ground. Then you have the tired-looking eyes... they should be butched up, maybe turned into aggressive slits... it's LED lighting - why not?

[CaminoRacer]

Someone photoshop the headlights with the arc on the top and flat on the bottom.

[Raza]

Love it from this angle:

[Laconian]

Love it from this angle:

Yes! It's a total butterface, though. Rotate the design and the excitement just plummets. I wish they went retro the whole way around.

[Raza]

Yes! It's a total butterface, though. Rotate the design and the excitement just plummets. I wish they went retro the whole way around.

I also think the puke ugly color they debuted it in isn't helping.  In a proper color, it might look quite good.

[Laconian]

I also think the puke ugly color they debuted it in isn't helping.  In a proper color, it might look quite good.

"Meconium Yellow Mica"

[Rich]

I bet that grill would look a lot less crappy in black. 

[MX793]

I bet that grill would look a lot less crappy in black. 

The grille needs something to break up the black space.  Some thin, horizontal chrome or aluminum stripes or something.

[Raza]

"Meconium Yellow Mica"

As long as no one looks that up, that could be a legit color name.

[Raza]

I have to say, it kind of reminds me of the current Aston V8. They both look like there's too much sheetmetal, but they both look decent. I think it looks much better than the 370Z with those weird pointy boomerang headlights.

[Laconian]

Heh heh heh, the forum abbreviates this topic as

"Re: Nissan teases a butt..."

[Raza]

Heh heh heh, the forum abbreviates this topic as

"Re: Nissan teases a butt..."

[SJ_GTI]

I'm gonna go against the grain and say I like the weird yellowish color.

[MX793]

I have to say, it kind of reminds me of the current Aston V8. They both look like there's too much sheetmetal, but they both look decent. I think it looks much better than the 370Z with those weird pointy boomerang headlights.

Adding a bit of rear overhang, continuing to drop the roofline down to create a lower trunk decklid height, did wonders for the profile.  The 370 looked like of stubby with it's tall, blunt rear end.  This looks much more lithe.  And I really love the 90s-esque tail lamps.  If you're going to pull inspiration from a design era, early/mid 90s JDM is a good one to choose from.

[MX793]

I'm curious if Nissan will follow Toyota by offering two different power train options.  ~400 hp TTV6 for the top dog and maybe a lesser powered (250-300hp) entry model like the 4-popper Supra?  Maybe just shed the turbos and give us a ~275 hp NAV6?

[r0tor]

It's interesting to compare this to the Supra, considering the cost pressures of building a low production sports car and how Toyota and Nissan each dealt with them.  Toyota chose to rebadge a completely unrelated car from a different manufacturer.  Nissan chose to do essentially a significant update and reskin to the existing but dated car.  But at least it's actually a Nissan.

I would easily take the Supra

[Payman]

I would easily take the Supra

No manual. No contest. Z.