Switching to EVs will benefit.......you guessed it. China.

[Morris Minor]

This will be China's century, without question. They're lean & mean, intelligent, patient & ambitious. And they're graduating engineers from their schools and ours, not experts in LGBTQ underwater basketweaving.

[Char]

Instead of wasting resources and energy on selling another 'product' to correct an issue that was caused by cars in the first place, why don't we move to mass transit? I know it's not as sexy but...buying a 50k car isn't really helping the environment.

[Laconian]

Instead of wasting resources and energy on selling another 'product' to correct an issue that was caused by cars in the first place, why don't we move to mass transit? I know it's not as sexy but...buying a 50k car isn't really helping the environment.

Agreed, but those 50k cars have spurred on a heck of a lot of R&D in technologies which are essential for clean and cost effective mass transit. We have to play the hand we're dealt too, which involves a lot of sprawl. The economics of mass transit don't work for everyone.

Personally I want to see more people on ebikes. The amount of range and utility you can get from half a horsepower is astonishing. And you can commute faster than cars can at rush hour. Bike lanes don't gum up like car lanes do.

[AutobahnSHO]

Instead of wasting resources and energy on selling another 'product' to correct an issue that was caused by cars in the first place, why don't we move to mass transit? I know it's not as sexy but...buying a 50k car isn't really helping the environment.

Have you ever tried it?

In many cities which have busses/trains you have to do a transfer, making a 20min drive a 90min public transportation adventure.

[GoCougs]

IMO EVs (and autonomous driving) are still DOA from a mass adoption standpoint, for all sorts of reasons, including simple logic as presented by Char.

Mass transit is probably worse however - see the damage done to Japan, the world's most transit'd society on the planet by probably an order of magnitude.

[Galaxy]

And in other news US company QuantumScape will this year deliver the fist production ready solid state battery cells to Ford, and VW, they are targeting 2023 as the year where the first cars with this technology might hit the market. VW and QuantumScape also announced that they are building a cell plant in Salzgitter, Germany.

Looks like VW is spreading the risk they are also cooperating with Skandinavien company NorthVolt, who are also building a cell plant in Salzgitter.   

[CaminoRacer]

And in other news US company QuantumScape will this year deliver the fist production ready solid state battery cells to Ford, and VW, they are targeting 2023 as the year where the first cars with this technology might hit the market. VW and QuantumScape also announced that they are building a cell plant in Salzgitter, Germany.

Looks like VW is spreading the risk they are also cooperating with Skandinavien company NorthVolt, who are also building a cell plant in Salzgitter.   

With these innovations it actually makes me hesitant to buy an EV again (or trade in our Bolt), because there are massive advancements on the way and I'd be better off waiting longer.

[Laconian]

Awwww shit, yeah! Solid state batteries are my trigger to get an EV. Plus a major failure for the Subaru - it's well broken in, it's had its dings and its upholestery scratches, and it's kind of liberating to have a useful car I don't give a shit about.

[SJ_GTI]

Knowing that advancements in battery tech (even big ones) wouldn't specifically hold me back from getting an EV that met all my needs at the time I was shopping.

That being said if this stuff actually works out it will be a huge step forward and, I suspect, a point of no return for ICE cars.

[Laconian]

We'll take pains to prolong the life of the Subie until an acceptable EV comes out. I think we are there now in most regards, but I think we're right on the cusp of having a much better product, so it's better to wait. It's better for the environment to get a good full life out a car vs. replacing one prematurely anyway.

Miata will remain the garage queen fun car.

[SJ_GTI]

We'll take pains to prolong the life of the Subie until an acceptable EV comes out. I think we are there now in most regards, but I think we're right on the cusp of having a much better product, so it's better to wait. It's better for the environment to get a good full life out a car vs. replacing one prematurely anyway.

Miata will remain the garage queen fun car.

Yeah no real downside to that approach.

There is a good chance that my current car (the Golf) is also the last new ICE car I own. I'm still a couple years from buying anything new anyway so I am just gonna wait and see where things are at.

[FoMoJo]

What is the rate of degradation on EV batteries?

Any battery tool or appliance I've ever had starts to degrade after only months.  The Dyson vacuum cleaner that used to last about 40 minutes on a charge is now down to about 10-15 minutes.

[Laconian]

What is the rate of degradation on EV batteries?

Incredibly low. Car charge controllers give the batteries a lot of buffer so they generally live unstressed lives.

[CaminoRacer]

We'll take pains to prolong the life of the Subie until an acceptable EV comes out. I think we are there now in most regards, but I think we're right on the cusp of having a much better product, so it's better to wait. It's better for the environment to get a good full life out a car vs. replacing one prematurely anyway.

Miata will remain the garage queen fun car.

We bought a Bolt since we needed another commuting car, so it made complete sense at the time. There's a bit of temptation to upgrade every time a new EV comes out, but it would be smarter to hold onto the current car until it's actually in need of replacement. It'll be a nice jump from a Bolt to something with an 800v solid state battery system.

[GoCougs]

Meh, battery tech has been advancing for 125+ years, and still no dice, esp. that batteries with each new "evolution" become ever more expensive.

As has been the case for ~125 years, EVs have a place, but it is extremely narrow scope, and fairly narrow in scale. Just keep doing that.