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Title: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 14, 2019, 04:48:39 PM
Fuses are fine... haven't tried the seat heaters/coolers. Any other suggestions besides taking it to the dealer? Looking at parts and assuming labor it shouldn't be more than $600-700, but hopefully like $100-200 if they just have to replace the switch. Not into buying a used driver seat
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Submariner on July 14, 2019, 05:15:05 PM
A friend of a friend had a Ford Edge roughly the same vintage as your wife's car.  He too had a dead drivers seat after 40k ish miles.  The dealer believed the problem was water seeping in between bad A-pillar weather stripping, making its way into the carpet and eventually shorting out the wiring underneath the seat.
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 15, 2019, 05:02:47 AM
Uh oh.... do you remember what the fix was? I'm hoping they just have to replace the control module at worst... a new harness would be bad news
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Submariner on July 15, 2019, 01:08:19 PM
Unfortunately I don't remember what the exact problem was, though I do remember complaints about cost and the complexity of the job.

Of course, you could have a completely different issue.  Have you checked to see if there are any signs of water seepage?
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: shp4man on July 15, 2019, 01:13:52 PM
Ok, Sporty. Do any of the seat things work? Up? Down? back? Forth? Fuck with the switch? Bang on it?
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 15, 2019, 04:06:53 PM
On that seat, nothing works. But again the fuse I could find was fine. Maybe water killed the ground :facepalm:
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: MX793 on July 16, 2019, 05:15:35 AM
Did a connector wiggle loose?
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 16, 2019, 05:19:21 AM
Probably wouldn't hurt to check, though I'm not sure why it would now after 9 years on the road
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 16, 2019, 06:22:23 AM
Use a test light or volt meter to check for power at the seat.
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: MX793 on July 16, 2019, 07:48:09 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 16, 2019, 05:19:21 AM
Probably wouldn't hurt to check, though I'm not sure why it would now after 9 years on the road

Something fell under the seat, while trying to fish it out a cable got tugged and loosened a connector, some miles down the road the connector loosens to the point the connection breaks...
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 17, 2019, 05:29:32 AM
I poked around under the seat.... all the harnesses are tight, no problems. Heating and cooling work as well. Really thinking it's the switch module. We'll see what the dealer says
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Submariner on July 17, 2019, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 17, 2019, 05:29:32 AM
I poked around under the seat.... all the harnesses are tight, no problems. Heating and cooling work as well. Really thinking it's the switch module. We'll see what the dealer says

If the heaters work fine then I'd say your guess has merit.  Also, water damage seems much less likely now.
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 17, 2019, 12:27:04 PM
Yea I would imagine water damage causing a whole host of other issues.
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Submariner on July 17, 2019, 02:41:58 PM
In any event I hope its a cheap and easy fix.
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 17, 2019, 02:48:17 PM
Or just never move the seat again!
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Submariner on July 20, 2019, 06:16:26 PM
Any luck?
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 20, 2019, 07:53:50 PM
We have to take it in next week... I'll update then
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Submariner on July 20, 2019, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 20, 2019, 07:53:50 PM
We have to take it in next week... I'll update then

:ohyeah:
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: BimmerM3 on July 21, 2019, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 17, 2019, 02:48:17 PM
Or just never move the seat again!

TBH, I'm basically pre-planning on that in the Explorer. :lol:

I don't know if this is really that common of a problem, but I've heard a few people mention that they have seat issues in those cars, so I turned off the whole "slide back when you remove the key" thing so that if it gets stuck, it'll be more likely to get stuck where I already want it.
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 21, 2019, 12:17:20 PM
I'm really glad my wife is close enough in height that we can just leave the seat in the same place for both of us.

My mom sits really close to the wheel so if I ever drive her car I can barely even get in the seat. :lol:
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: FoMoJo on July 21, 2019, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 21, 2019, 12:17:20 PM
I'm really glad my wife is close enough in height that we can just leave the seat in the same place for both of us.

My mom sits really close to the wheel so if I ever drive her car I can barely even get in the seat. :lol:
Your wife is over 6 feet?
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 21, 2019, 01:54:02 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 21, 2019, 12:33:33 PM
Your wife is over 6 feet?
Women sit weird. My wife sits with her knees together, so she needs way more leg room than me, even though her legs aren't that much longer.
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 21, 2019, 06:43:27 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 21, 2019, 12:33:33 PM
Your wife is over 6 feet?

5'11 I think
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2019, 01:13:27 PM
Blah, should have been more thorough in my fuse check. Though I'm not sure I would have caught it. The fuse for the seat itself was fine, but the fuse for the "body control module" was bad. $150 diagnostic fee and I know where to look next time. I want to be mad and say I'm paying $150 to have a fuse changed but they did find the issue. If the fuse pops again then it will be another story
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Submariner on July 25, 2019, 01:42:08 PM
100% better than water damage though!
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2019, 04:28:53 PM
For sure. They said to be careful with stuff under the seat... prob hit a harness and tripped the fuse. So MX793 was kinda right. Hopefully that's the end of it. Car's been great otherwise.
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 2o6 on July 25, 2019, 05:16:46 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2019, 01:13:27 PM
Blah, should have been more thorough in my fuse check. Though I'm not sure I would have caught it. The fuse for the seat itself was fine, but the fuse for the "body control module" was bad. $150 diagnostic fee and I know where to look next time. I want to be mad and say I'm paying $150 to have a fuse changed but they did find the issue. If the fuse pops again then it will be another story

The fuse *for* the BCM? Or the fuse in the BCM?
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2019, 06:16:39 PM
Wifey picked it up, I'll have to look at the paperwork
Title: Re: Wifey's driver seat controls are dead
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 26, 2019, 07:05:05 AM
Ja, if the whole BCM was without power, one inoperative power seat would be the least of your problems.