Quote from: FoMoJo on May 02, 2024, 10:08:13 AMSomething like this could be an option if they are practical and not really fussy about appearances...

Passenger Van

Just remove the last row of seating and it would be an 8 passenger van with loads of cargo space.

These things handle better than people realize.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 02, 2024, 11:28:01 AMI'm just waiting for a booster seat to be required for 16 year olds with their driving permit.

I have no memory of ever being in a car seat or using a booster seat. I was born in 1990.

Kids these days are probably gonna have PTSD from being strapped/locked in to a car seat because they can actually remember it since it's required 'til they're in 2nd or 3rd grade.

Just a general FYI ITT: Waymo's attempt of commercialization of "autonomous" (mapped) driving has been a failure. Turns out, reimagining the taxi industry to such an extent was a colossally bad business decision.

Quote from: MrH on May 02, 2024, 11:48:23 AMThere is no "if".  It's not a possibility.

"So he has switched his focus to full self driving where Tesla has a significant lead over everyone else.  If his robotaxi comes to successful fruition it may be a brilliant move but I don't think it will, especially in a highly regulatory U.S. and Western Europe environment. It just takes one fatality or severe injury to shut the whole thing down."

I think that's pretty clear I don't think Tesla's robotaxi will be a success.

Quote from: veeman on May 02, 2024, 11:45:50 AMWhat have I said that indicates I think Tesla's robotaxi will be a success? 

Quote from: veeman on May 02, 2024, 10:02:50 AMOK.  Perhaps Musk thinks he can beat Waymo because a Waymo technology equipped car costs a whole lot more than a Tesla car with FSD. If he can get his FSD to be truly driverless, as a robotaxi he would be able to signficantly undercut Waymo in price for a ride. 

 

There is no "if".  It's not a possibility.

Quote from: MrH on May 02, 2024, 11:42:44 AMIt's not possible.  I'm not sure why you keep talking like it is.

Tesla has the worst auto windshield wipers out there, by far.  They're camera based.  They haven't been able to get it to work since it was introduced with the Model S.  If their camera based system can't figure out whether it's raining or not, in the last 8 years, how can you possibly think it will figure out driving to go millions of miles without an intervention?

This is all so dumb.

What have I said that indicates I think Tesla's robotaxi will be a success? 

Quote from: veeman on May 02, 2024, 10:02:50 AMOK.  Perhaps Musk thinks he can beat Waymo because a Waymo technology equipped car costs a whole lot more than a Tesla car with FSD.  If he can get his FSD to be truly driverless, as a robotaxi he would be able to signficantly undercut Waymo in price for a ride. 

 

It's not possible.  I'm not sure why you keep talking like it is.

Tesla has the worst auto windshield wipers out there, by far.  They're camera based.  They haven't been able to get it to work since it was introduced with the Model S.  If their camera based system can't figure out whether it's raining or not, in the last 8 years, how can you possibly think it will figure out driving to go millions of miles without an intervention?

This is all so dumb.

Quote from: RomanChariot on May 02, 2024, 09:06:20 AMBooster seats are required up to age 8. The NHTSA recommends children up to age 12 be in a booster seat but they haven't been able to make a requirement yet.

I'm just waiting for a booster seat to be required for 16 year olds with their driving permit.

Quote from: GoCougs on May 02, 2024, 10:40:53 AMShareholders know that No Musk = Tesla market cap gets in line with other automakers (= 99% stock price collapse), and that's best case.

An impossible situation at this point.

Quote from: SJ_GTI on May 02, 2024, 10:18:32 AMI wouldn't expect Tesla shareholders to do anything rational. They are about to award 10% of their current stock holdings to Elon. An amount that is more than all the profit the company has made in its existence to date.

Logically the second they pass such a package the value of each Tesla stock should drop proportional to the amount they just awarded him, but I suspect it won't, which shows how irrational it is.

Shareholders know that No Musk = Tesla market cap gets in line with other automakers (= 99% stock price collapse), and that's best case.