I detailed a Traverse yesterday. Two kids, utilizing the 2nd-row captain's chairs. The one behind the driver rear-facing...they had a camera mounted to the headrest of the captain chair facing forward towards the rear-facing car seat wired to a little monitor on the dashboard, powered by the 12V cig outlet. This exact one, actually: https://a.co/d/4paB4Kk

Says it's HD, but it's more like 240p, but for $30 whaddya expect.

Never seen that before. Guess it's more convenient than one of those mirrors that mounts to the headrest

Quote from: Submariner2 on May 01, 2024, 09:28:22 PMBooster seats are pretty common up until 6 or so.

Now that I think about it, yeah. 6 year old nephew just has a booster. 4 year old niece is still in the 12-point racing seat jetpack fuckin' monstrosity unit still.

Quote from: Submariner2 on May 01, 2024, 09:28:22 PMBooster seats are pretty common up until 6 or so.

Booster seats are required up to age 8. The NHTSA recommends children up to age 12 be in a booster seat but they haven't been able to make a requirement yet.

Something like this could be an option if they are practical and not really fussy about appearances...

Passenger Van

Just remove the last row of seating and it would be an 8 passenger van with loads of cargo space.

Quote from: RomanChariot on May 02, 2024, 09:06:20 AMBooster seats are required up to age 8. The NHTSA recommends children up to age 12 be in a booster seat but they haven't been able to make a requirement yet.

I'm just waiting for a booster seat to be required for 16 year olds with their driving permit.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 02, 2024, 11:28:01 AMI'm just waiting for a booster seat to be required for 16 year olds with their driving permit.

I have no memory of ever being in a car seat or using a booster seat. I was born in 1990.

Kids these days are probably gonna have PTSD from being strapped/locked in to a car seat because they can actually remember it since it's required 'til they're in 2nd or 3rd grade.

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 02, 2024, 10:08:13 AMSomething like this could be an option if they are practical and not really fussy about appearances...

Passenger Van

Just remove the last row of seating and it would be an 8 passenger van with loads of cargo space.

These things handle better than people realize.

Quote from: giant_mtb on May 02, 2024, 01:16:45 PMI have no memory of ever being in a car seat or using a booster seat. I was born in 1990.

Kids these days are probably gonna have PTSD from being strapped/locked in to a car seat because they can actually remember it since it's required 'til they're in 2nd or 3rd grade.

Other than the safety aspect, which may or may not be, it lets little kids look out the car windows.  Whenever I drive around with our 3 year old grandson, which is quite often, he's perched up in his seat with a constant monologue about what's happening out the windows..."I see a blue car, it's a red light, look at that noisy car, the light is green" etc.  He's a regular little back-seat driver.

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 02, 2024, 04:43:23 PMOther than the safety aspect, which may or may not be, it lets little kids look out the car windows.  Whenever I drive around with our 3 year old grandson, which is quite often, he's perched up in his seat with a constant monologue about what's happening out the windows..."I see a blue car, it's a red light, look at that noisy car, the light is green" etc.  He's a regular little back-seat driver.

I remember being able to look out the windows just fine as a kid...back when cars' beltlines were more like beltlines and not necklines like today. Didn't need 8" of carseat BS to elevate me and strap me down like a friggin' straightjacket.

Quote from: giant_mtb on May 02, 2024, 05:50:18 PMI remember being able to look out the windows just fine as a kid...back when cars' beltlines were more like beltlines and not necklines like today. Didn't need 8" of carseat BS to elevate me and strap me down like a friggin' straightjacket.

To be practical, booster seats are 5 point harnesses that do reduce or prevent injury in an accident, which is the primary concern for parents.  Seat belts are pretty useless to protect kids as they are designed for adults. 

Very marginally related, I saw a 1992-1994 Chrysler minivan this morning. That was the gen2 which was mostly external facelift from the original minivan.

So quaint! So practical.

Quote from: giant_mtb on May 02, 2024, 01:16:45 PMI have no memory of ever being in a car seat or using a booster seat. I was born in 1990.
Kids these days are probably gonna have PTSD from being strapped/locked in to a car seat because they can actually remember it since it's required 'til they're in 2nd or 3rd grade.

Jay Leno jokes that the received wisdom was that it was best to be "thrown clear." I remember that exact thing being said by the adults when I was a kid.
My friend's dad got in a wreck and was thrown out forwards through the windscreen, bounced along the road like skipping a stone on a pond. Covered in agonizing abrasion injuries. He swore he'd have died if used his seatbelt.

Quote from: Morris Minor on May 08, 2024, 02:09:52 PMJay Leno jokes that the received wisdom was that it was best to be "thrown clear." I remember that exact thing being said by the adults when I was a kid.
My friend's dad got in a wreck and was thrown out forwards through the windscreen, bounced along the road like skipping a stone on a pond. Covered in agonizing abrasion injuries. He swore he'd have died if used his seatbelt.

Far more die from ejections than survive.

Quote from: giant_mtb on May 02, 2024, 01:16:45 PMI have no memory of ever being in a car seat or using a booster seat. I was born in 1990.

Kids these days are probably gonna have PTSD from being strapped/locked in to a car seat because they can actually remember it since it's required 'til they're in 2nd or 3rd grade.

I was out of car seats no later than 5 years old (I distinctly remember riding around in the car without a booster when my folks moved to their home back in 1994).  At that time, my folks thought it was safest for me to sit in the front seat because the air bag would offer me additional protection! 

I had no idea children were required to sit in a booster until 8.  From what I have seen, I get the feeling most parents don't abide by that rule.

I think they may have found an Odyssey: 2018, very low mileage, decent trim level, all the history, new and good quality tires. Fingers crossed. 

Okay they bought the Odyssey - immaculate EX-L, 32k miles and the rear entertainment add-on. The new tires are Michelin CC2s - so that's good.

This means the end of the road at last for the 2003 Pilot. I bought it new in 2002 when my son was 13, & it now has something like 260k miles on the clock.

Quote from: Morris Minor on May 14, 2024, 05:27:12 AMOkay they bought the Odyssey - immaculate EX-L, 32k miles and the rear entertainment add-on. The new tires are Michelin CC2s - so that's good.

This means the end of the road at last for the 2003 Pilot. I bought it new in 2002 when my son was 13, & it now has something like 260k miles on the clock.

That's a strong run for the Pilot.  20+ years and a quarter million miles is impressive.

Nice!

(my 2003 Odyssey had 260k+ when my ex sold it recently)

I wanted to get my old Mazda6 into the 200k-250k range but buying a Miata was much more fun.

I should pull a CarFax report on it and see if it's still registered and running around.

Quote from: MrH on May 14, 2024, 07:16:59 AMThat's a strong run for the Pilot.  20+ years and a quarter million miles is impressive.

I was having a nostalgic moment thinking about it. My late dad came with us to pick it up from the dealer & sat next to me on the way back home. The cars he bought when I was a kid were worn out by 30,000 miles, and even if not worn out, bodywork rust would be poking through by year three.

The Pilot's been all over the place & followed my son through his time in the Navy; it's been registered in Georgia, South Carolina, Maryland, Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. Just after he arrived in Boston people used to stop him and ask about the Hawaii plates. 

Quote from: Morris Minor on May 14, 2024, 02:55:39 PMI was having a nostalgic moment thinking about it. My late dad came with us to pick it up from the dealer & sat next to me on the way back home. The cars he bought when I was a kid were worn out by 30,000 miles, and even if not worn out, bodywork rust would be poking through by year three.

The Pilot's been all over the place & followed my son through his time in the Navy; it's been registered in Georgia, South Carolina, Maryland, Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. Just after he arrived in Boston people used to stop him and ask about the Hawaii plates.