Poll
Question:
2002 Toyota Landcruiser
Option 1: Return to Meatspin Mountain
votes: 6
Option 2: Jet fuel can't melt steel beams
votes: 4
Option 3: Fifty shades meatier
votes: 1
Option 4: What the hell is wrong with you?
votes: 3
Yeah, Got a fire extinguisher too.
Aww yeeee
Pics of shins
Might be worth doing a bit of preventative maintenance on the starter motor :huh:.
Quote from: FoMoJo on February 03, 2017, 06:25:43 PM
Might be worth doing a bit of preventative maintenance on the starter motor :huh:.
The relay.
Already ordered one, as well as a battery disconnect.
You should do like this Escalade we got in the shop today. Previous owner put a hidden starter button in the ashtray, where the lighter used to be, using the lighter circuit to power the starter solenoid. What could go wrong?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 03, 2017, 06:29:37 PM
You should do like this Escalade we got in the shop today. Previous owner put a hidden starter button in the ashtray, where the lighter used to be, using the lighter circuit to power the starter solenoid. What could go wrong?
Had to go through fuses like candy.
You should keep the glovebox and trunk stocked with marshmallows and graham crackers and chocolate.
You know, in case you get to make accidental roadside s'mores again.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 03, 2017, 06:36:27 PM
You should keep the glovebox and trunk stocked with marshmallows and graham crackers and chocolate.
You know, in case you get to make accidental roadside s'mores again.
I'll have to see if I can order a trunk.
I won't ask how many miles are on it. :muffin:
:popcorn:
I love the 9/11 truther reference.
Quote from: Laconian on February 03, 2017, 08:33:06 PM
I love the 9/11 truther reference.
Yet, it seems I am the only one who voted for it.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 03, 2017, 06:29:37 PM
You should do like this Escalade we got in the shop today. Previous owner put a hidden starter button in the ashtray, where the lighter used to be, using the lighter circuit to power the starter solenoid. What could go wrong?
uparmored suburban in Afghanistan had (no lie!) switches for "smokescreen, oil slick", and I forget the other.
You had to hold both rear window buttons UP to engage the starter.
Congrats man, hope this one works out better!
Quote from: Laconian on February 03, 2017, 08:33:06 PM
I love the 9/11 truther reference.
Same. I voted for it for sure.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 03, 2017, 08:51:24 PM
uparmored suburban in Afghanistan had (no lie!) switches for "smokescreen, oil slick", and I forget the other.
You had to hold both rear window buttons UP to engage the starter.
Caltrops
Quote from: shp4man on February 03, 2017, 07:14:03 PM
I won't ask how many miles are on it. :muffin:
160,000
Engine fire in t-60 kmiles.
Hot damn.
you need some ME graphics
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You get the point.
Those actually don't look that bad. But no.
The chrome vent covers and hood ornaments on the other hand are just stupid.
I don't understand what's happening.
Quote from: Raza on February 05, 2017, 12:13:47 AM
I don't understand what's happening.
Soup is desperate to explore his homosexuality with a young California man and a German guy in stockings.
Quote from: Raza on February 05, 2017, 12:13:47 AM
I don't understand what's happening.
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I think he bought another one.
Quote from: Submariner on February 05, 2017, 07:24:02 AM
Soup is desperate to explore his homosexuality with a young California man and a German guy in stockings.
Who again?
Have you picked it up yet?
Quote from: FoMoJo on February 05, 2017, 07:44:30 AM
Have you picked it up yet?
(http://s30.postimg.org/h92d2xpch/IMG_3021.jpg)
Looks good.
I don't see any smoke yet. That's good.
steelies and balloon tires now
Quote from: 68_427 on February 05, 2017, 09:20:30 AM
steelies and balloon tires now
Patience.
First thing is getting the running boards off.
You didn't even get to that step with the first one, huh?
I like the running boards. You just need the rear spoiler to balance it out.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2017, 09:27:19 AM
Patience.
First thing is getting the running boards off.
Why would you do that? They look good, imo.
Quote from: FoMoJo on February 05, 2017, 09:42:37 AM
Why would you do that? They look good, imo.
They look shitty, and they actually do the opposite of what they're supposed to do. They're too small to make a good step, but enough of a hindrance to make sure to wipe some road grime off on my pant leg almost every time.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2017, 09:52:22 AM
They look shitty, and they actually do the opposite of what they're supposed to do. They're too small to make a good step, but enough of a hindrance to make sure to wipe some road grime off on my pant leg almost every time.
I agree 9000%
Running boards are the dumbest thing ever, especially when you need to put it on a two post lift.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2017, 09:52:22 AM
They look shitty, and they actually do the opposite of what they're supposed to do. They're too small to make a good step, but enough of a hindrance to make sure to wipe some road grime off on my pant leg almost every time.
I had the same problem with the '01 Escape I had. I never used the running boards whenever I got in or out and it did usually smear the bottom of my pant legs when it had picked up some road grime, but my wife and daughter always used the passenger side running board when getting in or out. I guess it just depends on the length of your legs as to whether they are an advantage or a disadvantage.
Quote from: FoMoJo on February 05, 2017, 10:29:49 AM
I had the same problem with the '01 Escape I had. I never used the running boards whenever I got in or out and it did usually smear the bottom of my pant legs when it had picked up some road grime, but my wife and daughter always used the passenger side running board when getting in or out. I guess it just depends on the length of your legs as to whether they are an advantage or a disadvantage.
It's ok. My daughter can jump.
When did you roast the old one?
Quote from: mzziaz on February 05, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
Oh, missed that. Fuel related?
Apparently a known but rare failure involving the starter relay, or at least that's what I suspect.
I like the first one more, but I still really dig this one. Congrats man
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 05, 2017, 12:51:00 PM
I like the first one more, but I still really dig this one. Congrats man
I did like the green better, but it seems like that's a relatively rare color.
Soup, may the car gods smile upon your vehicle, and may it live long, and prosper. ;) Yoitabiwo!
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2017, 08:19:20 AM
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SHWEET WAGON D00D
Plus the 'Yota looks great!
Should wrap the sides with wood-pattern vinyl.
Quote from: MX793 on February 05, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
Should wrap the sides with wood-pattern vinyl.
Or wrap it in bacon and wait for it to catch fire.
Your first one caught fire!?
Quote from: Raza on February 06, 2017, 05:31:27 AM
Did you fall asleep while blowtorching something?
Oh man, if I had a dollar for everytime I did that...
No, spontaneous vehicular combustion. The details are in the Mall Crawler thread.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 06, 2017, 05:43:17 AM
Oh man, if I had a dollar for everytime I did that...
No, spontaneous vehicular combustion. The details are in the Mall Crawler thread.
Not that it's any comfort to you, but every single vehicle I've ever seen on fire on the side of the road has been Japanese (mostly Nissans, but one Civic Si). I think it's a cultural thing. :lol:
Good luck with this new one. Is there anything you can do as preventative maintenance, or do you just have to worry about it all the time and park it outside rather than in the garage?
Quote from: Raza on February 06, 2017, 06:45:07 AM
Not that it's any comfort to you, but every single vehicle I've ever seen on fire on the side of the road has been Japanese (mostly Nissans, but one Civic Si). I think it's a cultural thing. :lol:
Good luck with this new one. Is there anything you can do as preventative maintenance, or do you just have to worry about it all the time and park it outside rather than in the garage?
The suspect part traces back to a specific number of starter relays. I've already ordered a "safe" replacement, even though the chances of this one being one of the suspect ones is infinitesimal.
And I've also removed the stupid plastic cover Toyota puts over these engines, which some suspect may contribute to flammable material like leaves getting trapped under there. Once I got it off, I wonder why it was there: the intake manifold is one of the prettier ones I've seen stock.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 06, 2017, 06:51:42 AM
The suspect part traces back to a specific number of starter relays. I've already ordered a "safe" replacement, even though the chances of this one being one of the suspect ones is infinitesimal.
And I've also removed the stupid plastic cover Toyota puts over these engines, which some suspect may contribute to flammable material like leaves getting trapped under there. Once I got it off, I wonder why it was there: the intake manifold is one of the prettier ones I've seen stock.
Mall runners don't want intake noise to interrupt their teeny bopper pop.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2017, 06:56:25 AM
Mall runners don't want intake noise to interrupt their teeny bopper pop.
It's literally just a plastic pan. No sound deadening material at all.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2017, 09:52:22 AM
They look shitty, and they actually do the opposite of what they're supposed to do. They're too small to make a good step, but enough of a hindrance to make sure to wipe some road grime off on my pant leg almost every time.
Yep. I had the exact same problem with the 4runner. I just rubbed salt onto my pants every time getting out of the thing.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 06, 2017, 07:17:20 AM
It's literally just a plastic pan. No sound deadening material at all.
Fast fact: Nissan did not put the plastic engine cover, or the plastic under engine panel on the Versa S for sport. You should have looked for a Land Cruiser S.
Quote from: Raza on February 06, 2017, 06:45:07 AM
Not that it's any comfort to you, but every single vehicle I've ever seen on fire on the side of the road has been Japanese (mostly Nissans, but one Civic Si). I think it's a cultural thing. :lol:
My parents burned up a Mazda, but it was a Tribute so I'm gonna count it as American.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on February 06, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
My parents burned up a Mazda, but it was a Tribute so I'm gonna count it as American.
If there's a car that's got a name suited to going up in flames...
Quote from: SVT_Power on February 06, 2017, 09:47:51 AM
If there's a car that's got a name suited to going up in flames...
Fiero?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2017, 09:16:43 AM
Fast fact: Nissan did not put the plastic engine cover, or the plastic under engine panel on the Versa S for sport. You should have looked for a Land Cruiser S.
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/Black_MKII/n644140439_3813450_5617.jpg)
Land Cruiser Sport.
That's like a leftover prop from the porn parody of Blade Runner, right?
Nah, just a rare JDM off road package.
I thought it was a riced up Chrysler 300 at first.
My eyes just threw up.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2017, 12:37:30 PM
My eyes just threw up.
You should see a doctor. Projectile conjunctivitis is serious.
Quote from: SVT_Power on February 06, 2017, 09:47:51 AM
If there's a car that's got a name suited to going up in flames...
Fiero? Del Sol?
Quote from: Raza on February 06, 2017, 12:52:07 PM
Fiero? Del Sol?
I don't think Del Sols had issues. Fieros were known to spontaneously combust. I actually saw one as it was starting to burn up on the side of the road when I was in high school.
https://youtu.be/x28_c9QZMFM
:lol:
Need more, and bigger. The Land Cruiser 2 has a trailer hitch right?
(http://www.williamsfire.com/Libraries/AMBASSADOR/Ambassador_2010.jpg)
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2017, 03:02:56 PM
Need more, and bigger. The Land Cruiser 2 has a trailer hitch right?
(http://www.williamsfire.com/Libraries/AMBASSADOR/Ambassador_2010.jpg)
Hopefully his Cruiser starts on fire near a fire hydrant...
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 06, 2017, 03:58:50 PM
I already did a better job.
Mounted on the underside of the hood with a pull cord running into the cabin?
Quote from: FoMoJo on February 06, 2017, 04:01:30 PM
Did you make a video?
No. It never occurred to me to make a 15 minute video about securing something with two screws.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 06, 2017, 05:38:23 PM
No. It never occurred to me to make a 15 minute video about securing something with two screws.
You would be surprised at the stupid things people make videos about.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2017, 05:49:07 PM
You would be surprised at the stupid things people make videos about.
We saw.
Quote from: MX793 on February 06, 2017, 12:58:19 PM
I don't think Del Sols had issues. Fieros were known to spontaneously combust. I actually saw one as it was starting to burn up on the side of the road when I was in high school.
I was just going by names.
Fire bird?
So, got around to pulling the running boards off. Pleasantly surprised to find little rust underneath. Much more businesslike in appearance.
Also, I quickly realized I need front mud flaps, as without the running boards, the lower half of the doors quickly get covered in dirt. Also managed to blow out the left front speaker somehow. Will have to take care of that
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 16, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
So, got around to pulling the running boards off. Pleasantly surprised to find little rust underneath. Much more businesslike in appearance.
Also, I quickly realized I need front mud flaps, as without the running boards, the lower half of the doors quickly get covered in dirt. Also managed to blow out the left front speaker somehow. Will have to take care of that
Rally Armor
No.
Mauve ones
They have em in pink.
My friend has pink ones on her WRX. They actually don't look bad :lol:
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Considering the pinkish nature the STi logo has (used to have?) that kinda makes sense. Then they started capitalizing the "i" and all that bullshit. :rolleyes:
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Well, it's become quite clear that Land Cruiser dudes aren't Jeep dudes. I mean I knew that, but didn't realize the depth of it. Asked on a forum what the best way of disabling traction control was. 90% of the responses are "why would you do that? That's unsafe!" Others suggest pulling the fuse, but direct me to the wrong one.
Jeep guys at least understand why, most would have the answer, and one of them would likely have a video up and parts numbers for it. You could ask there how to modify your Jeep to be front wheel drive in low range, and they'd have an answer for you.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 02, 2017, 10:13:01 AM
Well, it's become quite clear that Land Cruiser dudes aren't Jeep dudes. I mean I knew that, but didn't realize the depth of it. Asked on a forum what the best way of disabling traction control was. 90% of the responses are "why would you do that? That's unsafe!" Others suggest pulling the fuse, but direct me to the wrong one.
Jeep guys at least understand why, most would have the answer, and one of them would likely have a video up and parts numbers for it. You could ask there how to modify your Jeep to be front wheel drive in low range, and they'd have an answer for you.
This is one of the reasons I want to hang onto the Miata. Answers and info galorreeeeeee
Quote from: Rich on March 02, 2017, 10:26:49 AM
This is one of the reasons I want to hang onto the Miata. Answers and info galorreeeeeee
There's an Aussie forum that is really good, but a lot of things aren't the same for those. All NA series 100s are V8, and those are almost never seen down under. They also got solid axle front suspension and diesel models. Also, bare bones work truck grade trims are the most popular.
Interesting. So Land Runner drivers are non-technical?
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 02, 2017, 04:07:07 PM
Interesting. So Land Runner drivers are non-technical?
American Land CRUISER owners do not seem as mechanically inclined and/or as likely to modify their vehicles as Jeepers do. Not surprising really considered the numbers involved and the entry price. Not a bad bunch of guys really, but just less keen to turn a wrench.
The Aussies seem much more like our Jeep guys, although not quite so gonzo.
Aussies seem pretty big into "overland" style offroading from what I've seen.
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 02, 2017, 08:20:10 PM
Aussies seem pretty big into "overland" style offroading from what I've seen.
They do, and it makes sense there. Few organized campgrounds, but a shit ton of open space. They also have some really cool tiny folding camp trailers I wish were more popular here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RSGedXi2riY
Yeah, those are awesome. They're big in the 4Runner community. I think you would like that better than the LC community. More extreme guys and DIYers. I think the price point for Land Cruisers makes it mostly for the rich.
I really like the roof top tents honestly. You can rig up a pulley system in the garage to pick it off the top of your vehicle for when you don't want to have it on there. Trailers are a lot harder for me to store.
Quote from: MrH on March 03, 2017, 07:27:36 AM
Yeah, those are awesome. They're big in the 4Runner community. I think you would like that better than the LC community. More extreme guys and DIYers. I think the price point for Land Cruisers makes it mostly for the rich.
I really like the roof top tents honestly. You can rig up a pulley system in the garage to pick it off the top of your vehicle for when you don't want to have it on there. Trailers are a lot harder for me to store.
Yes, that's probably right; but for specific tech help, it doesn't work.
We had this discussion already, but before you go and spend a huge pile of money on outfitting your car for "overlanding", think through the experience with all that specific gear, and then without it. What are you gaining by spending all that money? I would argue it's not convenience or the ability to do something you wouldn't otherwise be able to do. Think also about how much you're going to use it-- do you already go out camping a lot, or are you assuming that once you have all that rad gear, you'll start camping enough to justify its expense?
Is the pleasure of shopping and owning that stuff worth the expense (and poseur status ;) )? Gear is cool and all, but not without a purpose.
Quote from: Rupert on March 03, 2017, 03:54:30 PM
We had this discussion already, but before you go and spend a huge pile of money on outfitting your car for "overlanding", think through the experience with all that specific gear, and then without it. What are you gaining by spending all that money? I would argue it's not convenience or the ability to do something you wouldn't otherwise be able to do. Think also about how much you're going to use it-- do you already go out camping a lot, or are you assuming that once you have all that rad gear, you'll start camping enough to justify its expense?
Is the pleasure of shopping and owning that stuff worth the expense (and poseur status ;) )? Gear is cool and all, but not without a purpose.
Well, where did I say I was going to do all this in the first place?
I'm quite certain that having it parked on a paved driveway has already given me all the poseur status I need to get marked down in the proper column in your book, which is all I really wanted anyways.
And yes, I do camp quite often. No place I haven't been able to get to with the station wagon yet, but it has been close a time or two.
So, for the record, the only "mods" I'm really planning on at this point are getting the fire extinguisher mounted better (more of an attempt at irony than anything), and disabling the DRLs and adding a button to cut-out the traction control.
Oh, and I've already removed the running boards.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 03, 2017, 03:59:12 PM
Well, where did I say I was going to do all this in the first place?
I'm quite certain that having it parked on a paved driveway has already given me all the poseur status I need to get marked down in the proper column in your book, which is all I really wanted anyways.
And yes, I do camp quite often. No place I haven't been able to get to with the station wagon yet, but it has been close a time or two.
You didn't, that was a general comment...
Man, I bet the wagon would be great to sleep in-- so commodious!
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 03, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
So, for the record, the only "mods" I'm really planning on at this point are getting the fire extinguisher mounted better (more of an attempt at irony than anything), and disabling the DRLs and adding a button to cut-out the traction control.
Oh, and I've already removed the running boards.
Why disable the DRLs? I don't get that one.
Everyone needs a fire extinguisher, IMO.
Quote from: Rupert on March 03, 2017, 04:08:34 PM
Why disable the DRLs? I don't get that one.
Everyone needs a fire extinguisher, IMO.
You don't have to. If I want lights on, I'll turn them on. If not, I want them off.
Quote from: Rupert on March 03, 2017, 04:07:25 PM
You didn't, that was a general comment...
Man, I bet the wagon would be great to sleep in-- so commodious!
It works great for solo sleeping. Not so much with two not-so-small boys sharing the same space. I have a mat that is the exact right width side to side, but about a foot short of the full space.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 03, 2017, 04:13:24 PM
You don't have to. If I want lights on, I'll turn them on. If not, I want them off.
I hate DRLs with a passion!
Quote from: Rupert on March 03, 2017, 04:07:25 PM
You didn't, that was a general comment...
Quote from: Rupert on March 03, 2017, 03:54:30 PM
We had this discussion already, but before you go and spend a huge pile of money on outfitting your car for "overlanding",
quite a lecture.
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Hey, nice button.
How did you accomplish this?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 08, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
How did you accomplish this?
Place called cruiserheads 4x4 sells custom laser etched buttons that fit the older style Toyota blanks (and those for JK Wranglers), so I ordered a couple. Didn't get the font and size quite right, but it's close enough I think.
Idiot mode cuts out the power to be traction/stability computer. The only real drawback is that it won't come back on until the car is restarted; that would require a time delay relay board to mimic the ignition signal.
The "aux light" button doesn't do anything yet, but I got a discount on the second button.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 08, 2017, 12:02:04 PM
Place called cruiserheads 4x4 sells custom laser etched buttons that fit the older style Toyota blanks (and those for JK Wranglers), so I ordered a couple. Didn't get the font and size quite right, but it's close enough I think.
Idiot mode cuts out the power to be traction/stability computer. The only real drawback is that it won't come back on until the car is restarted; that would require a time delay relay board to mimic the ignition signal.
The "aux light" button doesn't do anything yet, but I got a discount on the second button.
Looks real nice.
Thanks
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 08, 2017, 12:02:04 PM
The only real drawback is that it won't come back on until the car is restarted; that would require a time delay relay board to mimic the ignition signal.
"Drawback"...
Quote from: 93JC on March 08, 2017, 10:01:49 PM
"Drawback"...
I don't see it as a problem, but I may work on a solution eventually. The button would really only be used to get through soft sand or mud/snow when the traction control would lower wheel speed. Resetting afterwards only takes a couple seconds.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 08, 2017, 11:42:14 AM
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Hey, nice button.
LOL Awesome!!!
https://www.facebook.com/121374154588733/videos/1412506732142129/
Front mounted trunk monkey?
Huh. I've seen a monkey wrench before, but never seen a monkey wrench.
"Idiot Mode" should have been "Drift Mode". Or "Hero Mode". Or "Dorito Mode".
Did you buy the monkey too?
Quote from: MX793 on April 24, 2017, 05:23:57 PM
"Idiot Mode" should have been "Drift Mode". Or "Hero Mode". Or "Dorito Mode".
I thought of a couple different ones, but figured I might look more like an idiot than a hero trying to drift a top heavy SUV that weighs close to 5000 lbs.
Psh, tell that to all those Arabs with the dope-ass YouTube vids, brah.
Quote from: 93JC on April 24, 2017, 06:54:07 PM
Psh, tell that to all those Arabs with the dope-ass YouTube vids, brah.
Abu Dhabi Mode
Quote from: 93JC on April 24, 2017, 06:54:07 PM
Psh, tell that to all those Arabs with the dope-ass YouTube vids, brah.
Let me keep this one for a few more months first, k?
First real problem at 182,000 miles. Crank position sensor crapped out overnight. $89 and I'll have to get some new bolts to put the front skidplate back on.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 08, 2019, 04:50:05 PM
First real problem at 182,000 miles. Crank position sensor crapped out overnight. $89 and I'll have to get some new bolts to put the front skidplate back on.
Meh, crank sensor is not a real problem. 99% chance those skidplate bolts are at the bottom of a jiffyloob oil change pit.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 08, 2019, 04:56:07 PM
Meh, crank sensor is not a real problem. 99% chance those skidplate bolts are at the bottom of a jiffyloob oil change pit.
It stopped the truck from running, so it counts.
Something like that, yes.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 08, 2019, 05:02:47 PM
It stopped the truck from running, so it counts.
Something like that, yes.
Hey, as long as the flash point wasn't reached, it's all good. :ohyeah: ;)
Quote from: shp4man on January 08, 2019, 05:04:48 PM
Hey, as long as the flash point wasn't reached, it's all good. :ohyeah: ;)
I don't get it. The flash point of the truck?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 10, 2019, 10:44:03 AM
I don't get it. The flash point of the truck?
Yeah, his last one burned to the ground, remember?
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 10, 2019, 10:56:00 AM
Yeah, his last one burned to the ground, remember?
No, I don't remember. I don't even know what truck this thread is about.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 10, 2019, 11:02:02 AM
No, I don't remember. I don't even know what truck this thread is about.
You were involved in the conversation on the first page of this thread 11 months ago. :lol:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 10, 2019, 11:02:02 AM
No, I don't remember. I don't even know what truck this thread is about.
Homoeroticisim and faulty starters.
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 10, 2019, 11:03:52 AM
You were involved in the conversation on the first page of this thread 11 months ago. :lol:
I just looked back at it. I guess this is some kind of Toyota giant truckwagon. Well, then. I'd drop an LS motor in it.
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 10, 2019, 11:03:52 AM
You were involved in the conversation on the first page of this thread 11 months ago. :lol:
23 months biatch
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 10, 2019, 04:15:53 PM
You get your own damned thread.
But furries love big Toyotas
(https://cdn.weasyl.com/~silversheep/submissions/1463132/09cea5764be7a3a3143534cbadf57a2e761b11d136b412946b483a1b0a72b28a/silversheep-march-meet-ute-load-of-furries.png)
One more thing furries have in common with ISIS and the UN.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 10, 2019, 03:59:32 PM
starter relays.
I bet you like clipping them to your nipples when you're trudging about in your perversion-truck.
Hadn't ocurred to me.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 10, 2019, 04:34:09 PM
One more thing furries have in common with ISIS and the UN.
Yeah, well maybe they are one and the same, or different sides of a three sided coin.
Well, fuck. I broke something good now. Transfer case maybe. Front diff? Been towing a trailer back and forth to the new house, and on the way back, something let loose. Engine just revs, no power to anything. Gear grindy sort of noise from the front end it seems. But here's the weird thing. I stop for a second, then it drives like normal. It happened again and I locked the transfer case and it drove fine.
Stopped, let everything cool down, dropped the trailer. Truck drives fine for 15 minutes or so. No weird noises, nothing. Then it happens again as I pull intonthe driveway.
None of the Land Cruiser forums seems to have experienced this.
:cry: :cry: :cry:
I cannot offer any advice, but good luck with whatever it is.
You were in 2wd when it first happened?
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 11, 2019, 09:38:16 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry:
I cannot offer any advice, but good luck with whatever it is.
You were in 2wd when it first happened?
Its never in 2WD. I can only lock and unlock the center diff.
More research indicates I may have stripped out one of the front hubs. I backed the trailer up a somewhat steep hill and it was snowy, so the front was slipping and catching, and it was pretty rough on the whole front end.
If so, its a relatively easy fix.
Watch for flames coming out of the t-case.
You know, I think I'm gonna find somebody to paint flames on this thing just to make you guys happy.
Oh okay. Didn't realize it's full time 4wd or whatever Toyota calls it.
So, I guess does that mean that, with all of the diffs open, the hub broke free, sending all the power to that axle, hence the total loss of drivability? Then locking the center diff sent some power to the rear, which got you home?
This topic made me finally get around to looking up the technical details of my Explorer's 4x4 Auto/4x4 High/4x4 Low system.
Apparently 4x4 Auto uses a clutch operated differential that varies torque to the front (something - 40% - I found a source that says 7-40, but that's an older model so I'm not sure if it's the same), but it seems that the front wheels are always getting some amount of torque. Then High locks the diff, and Low engages the lower gear, like normal.
So it's really both AWD and 4x4, I guess. :lol:
EDIT: I lied, I think it does send 100% torque to the rear under normal driving conditions. It looks like some of the earlier Explorers could send up to 100% to the front if needed, but I'm not sure if that would still be true for my model year.
Of course, none of this is directly from an official Ford source, though this source reads like it was written by a PR team.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 11, 2019, 10:11:12 PM
Oh okay. Didn't realize it's full time 4wd or whatever Toyota calls it.
So, I guess does that mean that, with all of the diffs open, the hub broke free, sending all the power to that axle, hence the total loss of drivability? Then locking the center diff sent some power to the rear, which got you home?
Yep. Mechanically, its open diffs. There's a brake based stability/traction system, but that doesn't do poop if something is slipping before the brakes.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 11, 2019, 09:55:24 PM
You know, I think I'm gonna find somebody to paint flames on this thing just to make you guys happy.
bout time
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 10, 2019, 03:59:04 PM
23 months biatch
Oh yeah, I forgot that it's twenty nineteen. lol
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2019, 05:02:48 AM
Yep. Mechanically, its open diffs. There's a brake based stability/traction system, but that doesn't do poop if something is slipping before the brakes.
Cool. Since I started casually looking for Explorer replacements, I've been putting more effort into learning how various 4WD/AWD systems work, so I wanted to make sure I understood what was happening (at least in theory, if the hub really is the root cause, which makes sense given the symptoms).
I've come to realize that, outside of hardcore off-roading where locking transfer case and/or differentials all around are the obvious choice, it's largely worthless to talk about "4x4 vs AWD" without knowing the specifics of each system, and sometimes, such as in the case of my Explorer, the distinction between the two isn't even all that clear.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 12, 2019, 11:11:00 AM
Cool. Since I started casually looking for Explorer replacements, I've been putting more effort into learning how various 4WD/AWD systems work, so I wanted to make sure I understood what was happening (at least in theory, if the hub really is the root cause, which makes sense given the symptoms).
I've come to realize that, outside of hardcore off-roading where locking transfer case and/or differentials all around are the obvious choice, it's largely worthless to talk about "4x4 vs AWD" without knowing the specifics of each system, and sometimes, such as in the case of my Explorer, the distinction between the two isn't even all that clear.
The AWD system in Subarus is effectively the same as the 4WD one used in Range Rovers for years. Those are two pretty definitive marques that built their reputation on those things.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2019, 11:14:22 AM
The AWD system in Subarus is effectively the same as the 4WD one used in Range Rovers for years. Those are two pretty definitive marques that built their reputation on those things.
Even Subaru's current systems vary a little depending on the model and options (mainly manual vs CVT), at least according to the Engineering Explained guy, who I generally trust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBQlK89PyxQ
Well, I was thinking of older Subaru systems; back when their tagline was "The Beauty of AWD," and the only CVT was in the Justy
Well, looks like what I'm chasing here is the end result of a bad service job.
Took the front hub apart and found the locking ring which is supposed to lock the axle nut in position is completely missing. Axle nut had backed off and stripped out the spindle. The only things holding on the left front wheel were the caliper and the little axle end snap ring.
Checked the right side and everything is there and in good order.
Damn spindle is $700.
$700 :wtf:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 14, 2019, 02:28:15 PM
$700 :wtf:
Yep. Most parts are perfectly reasonable, but I can't find that one anywhere but at the dealer.
In the receipts I got with the truck, found "bearing grease and repack, front end" done with a bunch of other things at 141,000 miles. That would have required taking he nut off. Looks like the tech broke the tab on the lock ring and then tried to secure the axle nut with blue loc-tite. Fuck.
I don't know whether its worth it trying to make a case against work done 3 years ago for another owner in another state when I can't prove somebody else hasn't had that hub off since.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 14, 2019, 02:35:41 PM
I don't know whether its worth it trying to make a case against work done 3 years ago for another owner in another state when I can't prove somebody else hasn't had that hub off since.
Probably not.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 14, 2019, 02:40:04 PM
Probably not.
No, probably not. Just kinda pisses me off.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 14, 2019, 02:30:47 PM
Yep. Most parts are perfectly reasonable, but I can't find that one anywhere but at the dealer.
Junk yard?
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 14, 2019, 02:41:53 PM
Junk yard?
Junk yard in Utah maybe, but not many of these around here. I don't really have time to go scavenging anyways, as much as I like doing that (honestly).
I don't know if this will help...http://www.cruiseryard.com/100-series-driver-side-knuckle-with-spindle/
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 14, 2019, 03:01:58 PM
I don't know if this will help...http://www.cruiseryard.com/100-series-driver-side-knuckle-with-spindle/
It does. But, shipping says 2-3 weeks. I'll call them and see if I can get it faster.
edit; well,
looks like you saved me about 200 bucks. I owe you
Alrighty then. All back together and my wallet feels so much lighter!
Its now obvious there's always been something wrong with the front end. Everything is quieter and tighter.
Yay for a happy ending.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 16, 2019, 07:42:09 AM
Alrighty then. All back together and my wallet feels so much lighter!
Its now obvious there's always been something wrong with the front end. Everything is quieter and tighter.
Niiice!!