https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev
So much for the Cyberfu...truck. :violin:
But honestly, I am curious to see this thing.
11,500 torks? What in the wide wide world of sports?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 01, 2020, 10:12:31 AM
11,500 torks? What in the wide wide world of sports?
"wheel torque." Not, at the output shaft. Different ratios make this irrelevant.
Compare to say, an F-350 with 860 pounding feets. 3.97:1 first gear, 2.69:1 low range, 4.11 final drive- Torque at the wheel hub is something like 35,000 lb-ft.
I'mma buy a Hummer.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 01, 2020, 11:14:25 AM
"wheel torque." Not, at the output shaft. Different ratios make this irrelevant.
Compare to say, an F-350 with 860 pounding feets. 3.97:1 first gear, 2.69:1 low range, 4.11 final drive- Torque at the wheel hub is something like 35,000 lb-ft.
Yeah, I figured it had to be. That is some marketing bull schite.
Although, now that I think about it, everyone should market maximum wheel torque, rather than crankshaft.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 01, 2020, 12:38:19 PM
Although, now that I think about it, everyone should market maximum wheel torque, rather than crankshaft.
There was a really dumb Reddit thread that said people shouldn't talk about crank hp, only wheel hp. Apparently if you tune your ecu you now have to claim that your 300 hp factory rated engine only makes 280 (whp) to appease that guy
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 01, 2020, 01:50:44 PM
There was a really dumb Reddit thread that said people shouldn't talk about crank hp, only wheel hp. Apparently if you tune your ecu you now have to claim that your 300 hp factory rated engine only makes 280 (whp) to appease that guy
Sounds legit to me. :cheers:
Dang GM is going all in on this Hummer EV thing. Lebron James is the spokesperson.
OK so 1 or 2 years from now, you have $75 grand to burn and you are deciding between the top model Tesla Cybertruck or the GMC Hummer EV. They both haul ass, have some off-road ability, and tow heavy stuff. The Tesla looks super weird, is fairly reliable, has good customer service and you don't deal with a dealership. You get a lot of updates to it's software automatically. It's self driving is most advanced and it's got the most super chargers out there. The GMC looks more like a normal pickup, is pretty reliable, has OK customer service, you buy it and service it at a dealership. You don't get very many updates to its software.
Very interesting battle.
This is awesome because of the irony.
The Hummer was considered the ultimate expression of fuel inefficiency and was one of the most hated vehicles amongst "green" people.
Now, it's turning into an ecofriendly vehicle. Let's see those treehuggers behind the wheel of a Hummer now!
Quote from: veeman on February 03, 2020, 08:11:04 PM
Dang GM is going all in on this Hummer EV thing. Lebron James is the spokesperson.
OK so 1 or 2 years from now, you have $75 grand to burn and you are deciding between the top model Tesla Cybertruck or the GMC Hummer EV. They both haul ass, have some off-road ability, and tow heavy stuff. The Tesla looks super weird, is fairly reliable, has good customer service and you don't deal with a dealership. You get a lot of updates to it's software automatically. It's self driving is most advanced and it's got the most super chargers out there. The GMC looks more like a normal pickup, is pretty reliable, has OK customer service, you buy it and service it at a dealership. You don't get very many updates to its software.
Very interesting battle.
You sure seem to know a lot about two vehicles that aren't even in production yet.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 03, 2020, 08:22:33 PM
You sure seem to know a lot about two vehicles that aren't even in production yet.
Well last I checked this is a forum where typically people give opinions.
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on February 03, 2020, 08:19:51 PM
This is awesome because of the irony.
The Hummer was considered the ultimate expression of fuel inefficiency and was one of the most hated vehicles amongst "green" people.
Now, it's turning into an ecofriendly vehicle. Let's see those treehuggers behind the wheel of a Hummer now!
Its an interesting choice to be sure. I can understand them wanting the electric line not to be Chevy/GMC; but to go straight to the mall ninja clown cars is a bit weird, especially considering they could just as easily dust off the Saturn name.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 04, 2020, 03:23:58 AM
Its an interesting choice to be sure. I can understand them wanting the electric line not to be Chevy/GMC; but to go straight to the mall ninja clown cars is a bit weird, especially considering they could just as easily dust off the Saturn name.
Saturn just evokes the image of Plasticar ™
They could call it the GMC Saturn.
If they style it right, which they probably will, I like this new truck and I like the Hummer branding. I can totally see this thing being used to daily drop off the rugrats to school in Cougs neighborhood.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 04, 2020, 03:23:58 AM
Its an interesting choice to be sure. I can understand them wanting the electric line not to be Chevy/GMC; but to go straight to the mall ninja clown cars is a bit weird, especially considering they could just as easily dust off the Saturn name.
I think it makes a lot of sense considering the competitors. Neo-retro Tron/Blade Runner stuff is in right now and this Hummer looks like it's following that path.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 04, 2020, 10:09:58 AM
I think it makes a lot of sense considering the competitors. Neo-retro Tron/Blade Runner stuff is in right now and this Hummer looks like it's following that path.
I don't think its a good long term strategy to chase fads set by competitors.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 04, 2020, 10:31:57 AM
I don't think its a good long term strategy to chase fads set by competitors.
:huh:
SUVs are in. EVs are in. It doesn't look like that's gonna change anytime soon (at least not within the next product cycle), so why wouldn't they go after it? Even if the styling trends change, as long as the basic platform is still relevant they can just restyle it.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 04, 2020, 10:55:41 AM
:huh:
SUVs are in. EVs are in. It doesn't look like that's gonna change anytime soon (at least not within the next product cycle), so why wouldn't they go after it? Even if the styling trends change, as long as the basic platform is still relevant they can just restyle it.
EVs are pretty modular, in the end, they can just restyle and throw up bigger better screen with UI in the middle and you have a new car with little cost. What I don't understand is what does LeBron have to do with this?
Quote from: NomisR on February 04, 2020, 11:03:36 AM
EVs are pretty modular, in the end, they can just restyle and throw up bigger better screen with UI in the middle and you have a new car with little cost. What I don't understand is what does LeBron have to do with this?
Apparently he owned a Hummer in the past. And they put him in a Super Bowl ad for it.
Probably a good play to get a more conservative crowd interested in EVs, too?
Quote from: Speed_Racer on February 04, 2020, 12:20:30 PM
Probably a good play to get a more conservative crowd interested in EVs, too?
The asshole crowd, maybe - the Hummer H2s I saw were frequently the double parkers, the aggressive tailgaters, the early mergers.
Quote from: Laconian on February 04, 2020, 01:11:13 PM
The asshole crowd, maybe - the Hummer H2s I saw were frequently the double parkers, the aggressive tailgaters, the early mergers.
This.
I have nothing but negative associations with the Hummer brand. I can understand them wanting their EV truck to be perceived as "tough," but I never thought of Hummers as tough- with the exception of the "real" H1, which was maybe 5% of their sales. I thought of them as goofy wannabe gear driven by jackasses.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 04, 2020, 11:33:05 AM
Apparently he owned a Hummer in the past. And they put him in a Super Bowl ad for it.
His first vehicle was an H2.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 04, 2020, 01:41:20 PM
This.
I have nothing but negative associations with the Hummer brand. I can understand them wanting their EV truck to be perceived as "tough," but I never thought of Hummers as tough- with the exception of the "real" H1, which was maybe 5% of their sales. I thought of them as goofy wannabe gear driven by jackasses.
Now that all full size pickups cater heavily to the micropeen set, Hummer will have to up its game and make a truck that's even more sociopathic.
Quote from: Laconian on February 04, 2020, 02:13:06 PM
Now that all full size pickups cater heavily to the micropeen set, Hummer will have to up its game and make a truck that's even more sociopathic.
Like with 1000 hp
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 04, 2020, 02:37:01 PM
Like with 1000 hp
Now that it's 2020, we can use adaptive cruise to stay mere millimeters from the bumper of the car in front.
Quote from: Laconian on February 04, 2020, 02:40:11 PM
Now that it's 2020, we can use adaptive cruise to stay mere millimeters from the bumper of the car in front.
Every rear view mirror will say HUMMER by the end of the year.
A vehicle this large and heavy with a 0-60 run of 3 sec. Nasty crashes are going to happen more frequently. In 5 years I can see the govt limiting acceleration times for electric vehicles of a certain size and weight.
Well if the dumbass diesel bros flock to this thing - that would at least be an improvement
Quote from: Laconian on February 04, 2020, 02:40:11 PM
Now that it's 2020, we can use adaptive cruise to stay mere millimeters from the bumper of the car in front.
Extreme tailgating!
Quote from: veeman on February 04, 2020, 05:17:06 PM
A vehicle this large and heavy with a 0-60 run of 3 sec. Nasty crashes are going to happen more frequently. In 5 years I can see the govt limiting acceleration times for electric vehicles of a certain size and weight.
The vast majority of people have no business driving anything that can hit 60 in under 8 seconds.
Quote from: Submariner on February 04, 2020, 06:14:25 PM
The vast majority of people have no business driving anything that can hit 60 in under 8 seconds.
Make that 10 seconds.
Launch Edition is kinda pricey......
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34412909/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-revealed/
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C7 on October 20, 2020, 07:56:09 PM
Launch Edition is kinda pricey......
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34412909/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-revealed/
Should have been a Camaro Electrocross
Price is about what I expected!
https://youtu.be/LkM0L4_W_pM
Tesla got beat to the market. Why buy a Cyber truck when you can get this sooner?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 20, 2020, 08:46:49 PM
Price is about what I expected!
The regular Hummers will be cheaper. How much cheaper is the question........
Looks baller
As gaudy as it all looks, I like it! Removable roof idea is sweet- very modular and presumably should be quieter than Jeeps and much more useful than "bulletproof glass".
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 20, 2020, 10:01:08 PM
Tesla got beat to the market. Why buy a Cyber truck when you can get this sooner?
I guess the Cybertruck is also expected in late 2021. But will that actually happen? We haven't seen a production-looking Cybertruck yet, only the concept that doesn't seem workable.
THE TONNEAU COVER CAN SUPPORT THE WEIGHT OF ONE (1) ELON MUSK! LONG TSLA
I'm getting ads for the Hummer EV and I think the promises they're making are fucking eye-popping.. Diesel brodozers RIP. Outclassed.
Each individual motor is a bit more powerful than my Bolt's motor. And it has 3 of them.
And it probably weighs 8,000 lbs. :lol:
"The year is 2020. GMC releases a Hummer with a quicker 0-60 (3.0 sec) than Ferrari's latest GT supercar, the Roma (3.2 sec). Sounds about right."
https://twitter.com/jasonfenske13/status/1318964361872830464
Ferrari should go EV and blast the sound of a synthesized hundred-cylinder engine at drivers' ears. :lol:
Crab Walk! :rockon:
The model launch is staggered through 2024 for cheaper models... wa Da fu...
Three motors and 350 mile range. How long would it take to charge this thing at home with an upgraded level 2 type charger? It's generally overnight for a Tesla or Bolt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2YLEPFa750
Well, at least it doesn't look as horrible as the previous Hummer...garbage dumpster with wheels.
A lot of people are complaining bout the price, but if one consider that a Ram TRX is around $100.000 then it does not seem that crazy to pay $12.000 more for the Hummer.
Quote from: Galaxy on November 02, 2020, 07:14:51 PM
A lot of people are complaining bout the price, but if one consider that a Ram TRX is around $100.000 then it does not seem that crazy to pay $12.000 more for the Hummer.
If the preorder books are full, then the price must be reasonable :huh:
GM said it sold out of the first batch in 10 minutes. $100 deposit required. Not sure how many trucks were in the first batch.