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Title: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Morris Minor on October 16, 2019, 06:37:18 AM

A truck was stalled on the road into work this morning. It was still dark. A cop car was parked behind him in the lane, with the full LED array blasting in max lumens mode.


Searing retinas, like triggering camera flashes six inches from people's faces & messing up their night vision.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 16, 2019, 08:21:33 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on October 16, 2019, 06:37:18 AM
A truck was stalled on the road into work this morning. It was still dark. A cop car was parked behind him in the lane, with the full LED array blasting in max lumens mode.


Searing retinas, like triggering camera flashes six inches from people's faces & messing up their night vision.

I've argued they've been way overboard for years now. I did notice the county sheriffs went to a relatively low key lighting arrangement in the back.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: giant_mtb on October 16, 2019, 08:38:18 AM
Cops love shoving bright lights in your face.  It's how they assert power.  It's a total ninja move...go for the eyes!
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 16, 2019, 09:11:16 AM
Guilty on all charges. The lights are fucking dangerous.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Morris Minor on October 16, 2019, 10:12:38 AM
Just a couple of hey-don't-bump-into-this-truck lights would have been fine.

(I can dim my iPhone display for low light viewing... thinking there must be a nighttime mode for these things.)
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 16, 2019, 12:34:35 PM
Similar story for me this morning! On top of that, it was pitch black and on a 2 lane back road with a lot of truck traffic. And the cop parked his car in one of the two lanes. You would think a state trooper would know better :facepalm:
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: shp4man on October 16, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
Wrapped up like a douche.. another runner in the night...

:lol: :muffin:
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 16, 2019, 02:05:12 PM
Quote from: shp4man on October 16, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
Wrapped up like a douche.. another runner in the night...

:lol: :muffin:

revved up like a deuce.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: shp4man on October 16, 2019, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 16, 2019, 02:05:12 PM
revved up like a deuce.

Ya, but mine's funnier.  :praise:
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Morris Minor on October 16, 2019, 04:05:22 PM
You drive past the scene - afterimages burned into your retinas. Night vision shot.
You run into a cop who has got out of his car.
Very dangerous. Sad.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 16, 2019, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: shp4man on October 16, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
Wrapped up like a douche.. another runner in the night...

:lol: :muffin:

I always wrap my douches before going night running.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 16, 2019, 08:18:23 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on October 16, 2019, 04:05:22 PM
You drive past the scene - afterimages burned into your retinas. Night vision shot.
You run into a cop who has got out of his car.
Very dangerous. Sad.

The cop who is wearing dark blue, unlike in civilised countries where they wear hi-viz vests when working near traffic.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: giant_mtb on October 16, 2019, 08:29:53 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 16, 2019, 08:18:23 PM
The cop who is wearing dark blue, unlike in civilised countries where they wear hi-viz vests when working near traffic.

Bro, hi viz makes them way too easy to target by criminalz.
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Post by: ChinaAdemo on January 18, 2022, 04:03:25 PM
nah dont want to put in another dash when i have a good 1600 dash. what size gauge can you put in the left side where the lights are?

graham
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 18, 2022, 04:11:54 PM
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Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 10, 2023, 08:35:18 PM
Just throwing this here, because I have to wear sunglasses at night these days


https://chng.it/SWMtSs6nkB



(https://i.postimg.cc/FHgWdpY6/E2-C951-B4-27-BD-4-FE3-9-F2-A-FBE877-E18-C97.jpg)
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 10, 2023, 08:44:03 PM
I put SOLAS marine reflective tape across my rear bumper. Is it illegal? Probably. Will it blind some LED/HID tailgating fuck? I can hope.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: MrH on February 11, 2023, 07:28:32 AM
I love that this thread was bumped.

Nick, do you actually wear sunglasses at night?  I wear my polarized sunglasses deep into the evening, but it eventually gets too dark.  Any recommendation for night lenses?

I've always had really sensitive eyes.  Lasik has made it worse for night driving with the halo effect.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 11, 2023, 07:56:52 AM
Quote from: MrH on February 11, 2023, 07:28:32 AM
I love that this thread was bumped.

Nick, do you actually wear sunglasses at night?  I wear my polarized sunglasses deep into the evening, but it eventually gets too dark.  Any recommendation for night lenses?

I've always had really sensitive eyes.  Lasik has made it worse for night driving with the halo effect.

I have polarized yellow over-my-eyeglasses glasses. They are actually for night driving.

Look for FL-41 or FL-500 lenses, polarized.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Laconian on February 11, 2023, 01:10:08 PM
Oh interesting. Might be a good thing for the Miata.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 11, 2023, 01:37:49 PM
This is how stupid I have to look because other cars have stupid lights.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3kmGrvmv/B39-B7419-E940-474-B-BA39-4-A6068-F8-CE40.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kmGrvmv)


How could France have had it so right in 1937, but in 2023 the USA carries on with high intensity piercing blue lights?
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 12, 2023, 11:13:55 AM
Quote from: MrH on February 11, 2023, 07:28:32 AM
I love that this thread was bumped.

Nick, do you actually wear sunglasses at night?  I wear my polarized sunglasses deep into the evening, but it eventually gets too dark.  Any recommendation for night lenses?

I've always had really sensitive eyes.  Lasik has made it worse for night driving with the halo effect.

Lately I've been going the opposite way - trying to wear my sunglasses less during the day to see if it helps my eyes be less sensitive.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Morris Minor on February 13, 2023, 03:28:10 PM
Nothing's more fun than being tailgated by a bro a in a brodozer with mega-lumens headlights.
My wife & son have light-colored eyes & are super sensitive to this. An ophthalmologist told me it's because of lower melanin levels in the retinas, & the lower melanin also accounts for lighter color eyes. 
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: giant_mtb on February 13, 2023, 08:17:50 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 13, 2023, 03:28:10 PM
Nothing's more fun than being tailgated by a bro a in a brodozer with mega-lumens headlights.
My wife & son have light-colored eyes & are super sensitive to this. An ophthalmologist told me it's because of lower melanin levels in the retinas, & the lower melanin also accounts for lighter color eyes.

Correct. Hence northern folk (Scandinavian) generally have lighter colored eyes.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 13, 2023, 08:42:00 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 13, 2023, 08:17:50 PM
Correct. Hence northern folk (Scandinavian) generally have lighter colored eyes.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/349/990/304.gif)
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: MrH on February 14, 2023, 09:54:36 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 13, 2023, 03:28:10 PM
Nothing's more fun than being tailgated by a bro a in a brodozer with mega-lumens headlights.
My wife & son have light-colored eyes & are super sensitive to this. An ophthalmologist told me it's because of lower melanin levels in the retinas, & the lower melanin also accounts for lighter color eyes. 

Yeah, I have blue eyes.  I always heard that blue eyes were more sensitive to light.  Makes sense.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Laconian on February 14, 2023, 10:43:34 AM
This should scare you then

QuoteTitle: Permanent retinal damage from overly bright headlights in individuals with blue irises

Abstract: The purpose of this study is to investigate the effects of overly bright headlights on the retinas of individuals with blue irises. Blue-eyed individuals have less melanin in their irises, which allows more light to penetrate the eye and reach the retina. This increased light exposure may lead to phototoxicity and retinal damage. In this study, we performed a literature review of existing research on the topic, as well as conducted our own experiments on human subjects. Our findings indicate that prolonged exposure to overly bright headlights can lead to permanent retinal damage, particularly in blue-eyed individuals. We recommend that automakers and policymakers take steps to regulate headlight brightness and ensure that all drivers are protected from this potential hazard.

Introduction: Blue eyes are a unique and striking feature in humans. However, they may also increase the risk of retinal damage from overly bright headlights. Blue eyes are characterized by low levels of melanin in the iris, which leads to increased light transmission to the retina. This increased light exposure can cause damage to the photoreceptor cells in the retina, leading to permanent vision loss.

Methods: We conducted a literature review of existing research on the topic of retinal damage from overly bright headlights in blue-eyed individuals. We also conducted our own experiments on human subjects, in which we measured the retinal responses to varying levels of headlight brightness. Participants were chosen based on their iris color, and their retinas were examined using fundus photography and optical coherence tomography.

Results: Our literature review revealed several studies that reported increased rates of retinal damage and vision loss in blue-eyed individuals. Our own experiments confirmed that blue-eyed individuals are more susceptible to retinal damage from overly bright headlights. Specifically, we found that exposure to headlights with luminance levels above 5,000 cd/m2 for more than 10 seconds led to permanent retinal damage in some of our participants. This damage was most severe in individuals with the lightest blue irises.

Discussion: Our findings have important implications for automakers and policymakers. Headlight brightness is regulated by various standards and regulations, but these standards may not adequately protect individuals with blue irises. We recommend that automakers take steps to ensure that their headlights are safe for all drivers, regardless of their iris color. Policymakers may also consider updating regulations to better account for the unique risks faced by blue-eyed individuals.

Conclusion: The results of this study indicate that blue-eyed individuals are at increased risk for retinal damage from overly bright headlights. Our findings suggest that current regulations may not be adequate to protect this population, and we recommend that automakers and policymakers take steps to address this issue. By raising awareness of this potential hazard and implementing appropriate safeguards, we can help prevent permanent vision loss in individuals with blue irises.

Source link (https://chat.openai.com/chat)
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: giant_mtb on February 14, 2023, 11:06:46 AM
Wonder how bright headlights compare to the sunshine glare off of blankets of white snow for 5-6 months a year...which is what blue-eyed folks have been looking at for thousands of years before "overly bright headlights" were a problem.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: MrH on February 14, 2023, 11:25:11 AM
Great :lol:

I'm always shocked how many cars are driving with their brights on.  I can tell from a mile away.  I'd say 20% of cars around here have their brights on, blinding everyone.  A lot of times, one of their main headlight bulbs burns out, so their solution is just drive around with their brights on :facepalm:

It's every worse in the BRZ.  Even just standard HID lights, without their brights, I'm typically well below their cut off.  I might take some of my sunglasses and order yellow tinted lenses and see if that helps.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Laconian on February 14, 2023, 12:16:41 PM
Click the source link, I had ChatGPT write up that pile of fake news :lol:
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: MrH on February 14, 2023, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: Laconian on February 14, 2023, 12:16:41 PM
Click the source link, I had ChatGPT write up that pile of fake news :lol:

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Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 14, 2023, 01:18:50 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 14, 2023, 02:04:02 PM
Haha
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: SVT_Power on February 14, 2023, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: Laconian on February 14, 2023, 12:16:41 PM
Click the source link, I had ChatGPT write up that pile of fake news :lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: GoCougs on February 15, 2023, 12:00:33 AM
lol at the idling idiots - I thought I was the only with the crazy on that. WTF are so many people even doing this? Turn off the car, turn off the headlights, and get out and do something useful. JFC.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 15, 2023, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: MrH on February 14, 2023, 11:25:11 AM
I'm always shocked how many cars are driving with their brights on.  I can tell from a mile away.  I'd say 20% of cars around here have their brights on, blinding everyone.  A lot of times, one of their main headlight bulbs burns out, so their solution is just drive around with their brights on :facepalm:

Same here. Maybe more than 30%.... PLUS the same idiots don't bother turning on their lights in super heavy fog or rain
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on February 15, 2023, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 15, 2023, 07:30:20 PM
Same here. Maybe more than 30%.... PLUS the same idiots don't bother turning on their lights in super heavy fog or rain
Same here!
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 19, 2023, 11:26:20 AM
Quote from: MrH on February 11, 2023, 07:28:32 AM
I love that this thread was bumped.

Nick, do you actually wear sunglasses at night?  I wear my polarized sunglasses deep into the evening, but it eventually gets too dark.  Any recommendation for night lenses?

I've always had really sensitive eyes.  Lasik has made it worse for night driving with the halo effect.

Do you still think Lasik was worth it?

I've maxed out my HSA the past few years so I was thinking about getting Lasik with some of the money.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 15, 2023, 03:41:05 PM
Kinda related: https://jalopnik.com/man-hires-600-per-hour-national-security-lawyer-to-fig-1850229159

Guy got cut off, flashed the high beams, state trooper behind him ticketed him. Super ritzy lawyer worked pro Bono and beat the ticket.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Rich on March 15, 2023, 05:02:47 PM
QuoteIt's also, for me, what's fun," Zaid said


suddenly I find myself a fan of this lawyer
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 16, 2023, 08:27:40 PM
Quote from: Rich on March 15, 2023, 05:02:47 PM

suddenly I find myself a fan of this lawyer

:lol:
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Laconian on February 05, 2024, 12:11:55 PM
Someone told me that in the South there are a lot of trucks that just drive with their light bars constantly on?
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: GoCougs on February 05, 2024, 05:37:28 PM
Quote from: Laconian on February 05, 2024, 12:11:55 PMSomeone told me that in the South there are a lot of trucks that just drive with their light bars constantly on?

I've been seeing that a lot. It's the small yellow light bars (and goofy fog lights) but only on late/new model Toyotas - Tundras, Tacomas and 4Runners.
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 05, 2024, 05:53:54 PM
Literally every Jeep Wrangler
Title: Re: Blinded by the lights
Post by: Submariner2 on February 24, 2024, 09:42:41 PM
There is red Chevy Caviler in my area with a yellow fog light bar mounted underneath the grill, one on the roof, and one underneath the rear bumper facing backwards.  All are misaligned and all are apparently on at all times.  I can only imaging how fun it must be to drive behind this mobile lighthouse at night.