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Title: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: ifcar on February 17, 2009, 04:52:52 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/17/2010-jeep-grand-cherokee-and-chrysler-300-previewed-in-viability/
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: NomisR on February 17, 2009, 04:57:17 PM
I kinda like the Cherokee but I don't know about the 300.. what changed? 
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: r0tor on February 17, 2009, 05:30:02 PM
so wait... they photoshopped (really) fake awards on their photos to impress the feds?!?!?
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: S204STi on February 17, 2009, 05:36:55 PM
Looks like they hired the kid from Allpar to do their renderings.  Yuck.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: giant_mtb on February 17, 2009, 05:45:48 PM
You'd think such huge companies would have some better renderers around. :huh:
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: r0tor on February 17, 2009, 05:49:51 PM
christ my rx7 chops that made their way around the internets looked better
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: NomisR on February 17, 2009, 05:53:13 PM
Oh, that was a serious thing?  I thought it was a spoof and they were intentionally trying to make it look like a chop..  :huh:
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2009, 06:14:57 PM
I think both look good.  The 300 looks cleaned up a little with some wheel arches.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Vinsanity on February 17, 2009, 06:21:53 PM
the 300 looks more plain, but at least the interior is a drastic improvement
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: the Teuton on February 18, 2009, 12:32:48 AM
Quote from: R-inge on February 17, 2009, 05:36:55 PM
Looks like they hired the kid from Allpar to do their renderings.  Yuck.

This is what happens when you cut your R&D budget to 10 cents.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: omicron on February 18, 2009, 04:17:35 AM
Who on earth made that presentation? Perky yellow starbursts? Obscure claims tossed about with fun exclamation marks tacked on the end? Odd colour schemes? Obvious gap-filling pictures in the corner? Dubious layout? Goodness gracious; professionalism doesn't have to be expensive.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: ifcar on February 18, 2009, 05:53:24 AM
I wonder if they made their presentation less than elaborate so they would look more desperate as they begged for money.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Catman on February 18, 2009, 06:03:17 AM
I agree with Iffy.  It's going before congress not the automotive press.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: cozmik on February 18, 2009, 07:13:39 AM
Quote from: omicron on February 18, 2009, 04:17:35 AM
Who on earth made that presentation? Perky yellow starbursts? Obscure claims tossed about with fun exclamation marks tacked on the end? Odd colour schemes? Obvious gap-filling pictures in the corner? Dubious layout? Goodness gracious; professionalism doesn't have to be expensive.

Yeah I found the starbursts hilarious as well. I'm not even sure this was PowerPoint or Word. This is like. iWorks level stuff. Maybe they found an old Mac 6100 with ClarisWorks on it to use.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Tave on February 18, 2009, 08:24:42 AM
AHHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Submariner on February 18, 2009, 08:42:29 AM
Quote from: cozmik on February 18, 2009, 07:13:39 AM
Yeah I found the starbursts hilarious as well. I'm not even sure this was PowerPoint or Word. This is like. iWorks level stuff. Maybe they found an old Mac 6100 with ClarisWorks on it to use.

Haha.  I had a MacPerforma 6400 Power PC (what a long, convoluted name) What a piece of rubbish that thing was.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Submariner on February 18, 2009, 08:43:37 AM
Haha...has anyone noticed the jagged edges on the captions? 
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: omicron on February 18, 2009, 10:15:54 AM
Quote from: ifcar on February 18, 2009, 05:53:24 AM
I wonder if they made their presentation less than elaborate so they would look more desperate as they begged for money.

This isn't just less elaborate; it's Ray Charles cutting letters out of magazines.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 18, 2009, 10:19:17 AM
I'm sure O'bama had a hand in this. He used to drive a 300C.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Vinsanity on February 18, 2009, 10:43:11 AM
Quote from: omicron on February 18, 2009, 10:15:54 AM
This isn't just less elaborate; it's Ray Charles cutting letters out of magazines.

I almost spit coffee on my keyboard ROFLing in my cubicle. Damn you, omi :lol:
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: S204STi on February 18, 2009, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: omicron on February 18, 2009, 10:15:54 AM
This isn't just less elaborate; it's Ray Charles cutting letters out of magazines.

LOL
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: giant_mtb on February 18, 2009, 01:32:43 PM
LMAO @ Omi
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: TurboDan on February 18, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
I always hated the 300.  Seemed to be the perfect car for a pimp who wasn't a good enough pimp to be able to afford a Cadillac.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: the Teuton on February 18, 2009, 11:20:01 PM
BTW, these are real.  I just found out my brother's friend was the one who leaked these pictures.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Vinsanity on February 19, 2009, 12:28:46 AM
I always thought it would be cool if the next 300 had suicide rear doors like the Imperial concept :mrcool:




Either that, or something like this: http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/dodge_challenger_sedan.html (http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/dodge_challenger_sedan.html)
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 19, 2009, 05:53:49 AM
Quote from: TurboDan on February 18, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
I always hated the 300.  Seemed to be the perfect car for a pimp who wasn't a good enough pimp to be able to afford a Cadillac.

+1

And there are TWO of them with RIMZ! in the parking lot at work.
Both black guys. (Come to think of it ALL of the 300s I see around here have black drivers..)
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: ifcar on February 19, 2009, 06:41:43 AM
Quote from: the Teuton on February 18, 2009, 11:20:01 PM
BTW, these are real.  I just found out my brother's friend was the one who leaked these pictures.

My understanding is they weren't leaked, but they were part of the restructuring plan submitted to Congress.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: 2o6 on February 19, 2009, 07:22:16 AM
Why is there a rendered Durango, but they've said the Durango was going to get axed?
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: ifcar on February 19, 2009, 07:24:36 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2009, 07:22:16 AM
Why is there a rendered Durango, but they've said the Durango was going to get axed?

They've closed the factory that builds the current Durango, but it's being redesigned.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Catman on February 19, 2009, 07:48:50 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2009, 07:22:16 AM
Why is there a rendered Durango, but they've said the Durango was going to get axed?

Where are you seeing this? I just went through the 177 page report and didn't see it. :confused:
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: the Teuton on February 19, 2009, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: ifcar on February 19, 2009, 06:41:43 AM
My understanding is they weren't leaked, but they were part of the restructuring plan submitted to Congress.

Indeed, but someone had to go through several hundred pages of documents to find them after the plan was made public.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Byteme on February 19, 2009, 10:59:31 AM
Quote from: omicron on February 18, 2009, 04:17:35 AM
Who on earth made that presentation? Perky yellow starbursts? Obscure claims tossed about with fun exclamation marks tacked on the end? Odd colour schemes? Obvious gap-filling pictures in the corner? Dubious layout? Goodness gracious; professionalism doesn't have to be expensive.

And they wonder why they are on the brink of going out of business.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Catman on February 19, 2009, 03:09:05 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 19, 2009, 05:53:49 AM
+1

And there are TWO of them with RIMZ! in the parking lot at work.
Both black guys. (Come to think of it ALL of the 300s I see around here have black drivers..)

(http://www.creepygif.com/images/full/10.gif)
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Atomic on February 19, 2009, 07:21:37 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 17, 2009, 05:45:48 PM
You'd think such huge companies would have some better renderers around. :huh:

what i heard from my buddy at chrysler is that the cars will look far better in person. what we have before us are allegedly just a mere glimpse of the 300c, jeep grand cherokee, as not to leak out true photos. apparently, chrysler also showed pics of the next dodge charger, dodge durango, others. rumor has it that chrysler will offer most, if not all future vehicles as:

touring (no base, but base prices for a nicely equipped vehicle, leather optional)
limited (completely loaded, powerful engine vehicles, leather std.)
letter series (i.e. "c"), (fully loaded, more powerful, ultra leather std.)
srt (i.e. srt-8), (fully loaded, most powerful, ultra leather-suede std.)

naturally, ride, suspension are greater with each upgrade. my friend cited slight to significant styling improvements/variations (i.e. mess grille, srt-8). dodge will probably have base models and different monikers (i.e. se, r/t, srt-8). jeeps will more upscale, like chrysler -- with little change from current prices.

only time will tell! hopefully...
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: GoCougs on February 19, 2009, 07:26:46 PM
At least the 300 lost that cheap egg crate grill.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Atomic on February 19, 2009, 07:34:34 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on February 19, 2009, 07:26:46 PM
At least the 300 lost that cheap egg crate grill.

you are right! it should look even better in person. the 2010 pic gives the upcoming model a much richer look -- even more stylish, judging from the detailed side and face.
Title: Re: Chrysler shows renderings of updated 300, new Grand Cherokee
Post by: Tave on February 19, 2009, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: Atomic on February 19, 2009, 07:21:37 PM
what i heard from my buddy at chrysler is that the cars will look far better in person.

Actually the renderings themselves aren't half-bad (at least, I've seen worse). The shit-dick layout is problemo numero uno.