CR-V engine problems

[Payman]

 

[Submariner]

Naw, man. Got to let it be free. Roll down the window.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hpwJE5DEk7U ?t=02m09s

[AutobahnSHO]

Install a spark plug in the PCV valve. Bam, instant gasoline disposal.

[Morris Minor]

Checked the dipstick yesterday at work, and took the paper towel I'd wiped it with back inside.
Got my colleagues to sniff it. What does it smell like?
"Gasoline"
"Ugh gasoline"
"Gasoline"
"Gasoline"

Later I had another oil sample taken. It was at 3,300 miles (car is at 18,500). I'll send it for analysis today.

[giant_mtb]

Pretty shitty that Honda isn't considering this a problem in all areas and not just northern states...

[FoMoJo]

Checked the dipstick yesterday at work, and took the paper towel I'd wiped it with back inside.
Got my colleagues to sniff it. What does it smell like?
"Gasoline"
"Ugh gasoline"
"Gasoline"
"Gasoline"

Later I had another oil sample taken. It was at 3,300 miles (car is at 18,500). I'll send it for analysis today.

Apparently, gasoline begins to evaporate at 140 degrees.  Not sure what your oil temperature is after the vehicle warms up, but I would think that it would be 140 degrees +.  How long is your daily drive?

Old cars that I've had over the years, worn cylinders, rings, etc., no doubt leaked a good bit of gasoline into the oil, but the oil never really smelled of gasoline.  Makes you wonder just how much gasoline in blowing into your crankcase.

[AutobahnSHO]

I'll send it for analysis today.

Save analysis data for Honda claim?...

[12,000 RPM]

Save analysis data for Honda claim?...

Thats prob the idea

The oil analysis labs probably have a treasure trove of data to help in a class action lawsuit. They can obviously tell if there's gas in the oil but also see if that gas is actually accelerating engine wear.

What a bummer. Try to do the responsible thing by buying a Honda and you get burnt. Hope it all works out man

[Morris Minor]

Thats prob the idea

The oil analysis labs probably have a treasure trove of data to help in a class action lawsuit. They can obviously tell if there's gas in the oil but also see if that gas is actually accelerating engine wear.

What a bummer. Try to do the responsible thing by buying a Honda and you get burnt. Hope it all works out man

Thanks Sporty.
I got the official (& carefully worded) notice of the warranty extension today.

[Morris Minor]

Yesterday I received a call from American Honda. They'd received my email raising concerns about the evident oil dilution (first oil analysis, photo of dipstick). They have no further information. Case is being closed.
I said okay. I'll soon be getting the result from the sample taken last week. I'll send that to AHM too.

Then I'll:

   
• Document everything.
• Join the class action lawsuit.
• Bite the bullet, take the loss, & trade in the car for something else. I'll find a lightly used Outback or CX-5 or something. I'm done with new cars for a while.

I'm just a tad fucked off about this. My instinct is that accelerated wear is increasing the rate at which fuel is contaminating the oil.

[r0tor]

Try to find a lawyer doing single claim lawsuits... With the focus transmission debacle the class action people got like a grand while people that sought out a handful of lawyers to file individual suits got 20x that amount.

[12,000 RPM]

How many miles does it have?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Try to find a lawyer doing single claim lawsuits... With the focus transmission debacle the class action people got like a grand while people that sought out a handful of lawyers to file individual suits got 20x that amount.

+1

I got my own lawyer for my Nissan Versa. He did a good job getting a settlement out of Nissan. PM me if you want his name.

[Morris Minor]

How many miles does it have?

18,500 - the car is 18-months old.

[Morris Minor]

Looks like there's no need to panic yet. I'll keep an eye on things though.

[FoMoJo]

Maybe it just needed a longer break-in period.

[giant_mtb]

18,500 miles?  That's one helluva break-in period.

[Morris Minor]

Note that this car does mostly long journeys. It gets thoroughly warmed up. Well it should get thoroughly warmed up.

[12,000 RPM]

IIRC the biggies to watch for are zinc and copper as those are what bearings are made of

I do think if there were a real problem we'd be hearing about engine failures by now. These engines have been on the road for 4 years

[FoMoJo]

Note that this car does mostly long journeys. It gets thoroughly warmed up. Well it should get thoroughly warmed up.

Do you still smell gasoline when parked or in the garage?

[Morris Minor]

Do you still smell gasoline when parked or in the garage?

Yes, but not now with the new oil. The smell will come back after a couple of thousand miles

[r0tor]

Looks like your oil is already hosed after 3k miles... Don't see this being an improvement

[HurricaneSteve]

I wasn't aware of this until last week when I was researching the Honda 1.5T but is it true that GDI motors all have some kind of gasoline smell in the oil? Perhaps it was just my imagination but when I smelled the MX-5's oil at 2K miles I swear there was a bit of a gasoline scent in there.

[Morris Minor]

Looks like your oil is already hosed after 3k miles... Don't see this being an improvement

I dunno I'm sick of the whole thing.
Maybe I'll trade it in January - that will be two years... & it'll be at about 25,000 miles. Get a CPO Lexus SUV or something - something reliable where they don't treat you like shit.

[12,000 RPM]

Can't go wrong with an RX.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Can't go wrong with an RX.

8?

[r0tor]

8?

This

[Morris Minor]

Hmm. Checked CR-V's oil level last night. Way above full.
So either the dealership overfilled it at the last oil change (ten weeks & 2,000 miles ago)
Or the dipstick is wrong
Or gasoline is filling up the oil pan - even in hot weather.

Doesn't smell very gasoliney though - like it does in the cool months.


Edit: maybe they overfilled it to keep the dilution ratio down & push back the total failure date.

[FoMoJo]

How's the colour?

[Morris Minor]

Battery was dead this morning - just like the innumerable other owners' anecdotes in the CR-V forums and groups. We've had the car 34 months, & it's got 32,000 miles on the clock. They eat 12V batteries apparently & the OEM ones are cheap garbage, like the OEM tires.