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Question: 1980!
Option 1: Ford Mustang GT votes: 2
Option 2: Mercury Capri RS votes: 4
Option 3: Chevrolet Camaro Z28 votes: 5
Option 4: Pontiac Firebird Trans Am votes: 14
Title: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Payman on December 27, 2012, 05:25:50 PM
(http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1980-1989/1983-Ford-Mustang-GT-Front-1024x768.jpg)

(http://www.stangranch.com/graphics/CharcoalTurbo.jpg)

(http://acuitzeramo.com/portfl0w/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=219&stc=1&d=1260405321)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m1rFSbS1jTw/UJADciGgf8I/AAAAAAAABkY/j1O0uzlU5wE/s1600/1979+29+trans+am.jpg)
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Rupert on December 27, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
T/A, duh.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Laconian on December 27, 2012, 05:36:28 PM
This is not enough Bondos.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Payman on December 27, 2012, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: Rupert on December 27, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
T/A, duh.

+1.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 27, 2012, 06:01:39 PM
Trans Am all the way
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: CALL_911 on December 27, 2012, 06:18:08 PM
Capri RS FTW.


I mean T/A.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Laconian on December 27, 2012, 06:23:30 PM
Can we make this a Turbo T/A? I want power to swell out of my hood to tell the world where it's at!

Pontiac Trans Am 1980 TV commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSh2i-LB3Vw#)
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Pontiac Excitement
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Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on December 27, 2012, 07:13:14 PM
Capri by a mile.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: giant_mtb on December 27, 2012, 07:21:32 PM
Trans Am!  In black with gold winngggggggsssss
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on December 27, 2012, 07:25:43 PM
Trans Am
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Laconian on December 27, 2012, 07:29:12 PM
280ZX Turbo?
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: 280Z Turbo on December 28, 2012, 06:29:02 PM
The Z28 looks a bit less silly than the rest.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: 68_427 on December 28, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
(http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/8889107/0710phr_02_z+1977_pontiac_trans_am+year_one_bandit.jpg)
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/faceoff8.jpg)
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Onslaught on December 28, 2012, 11:30:13 PM
TA.

But I'd rather walk
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: FoMoJo on December 29, 2012, 05:58:54 AM
I always liked the idea of a Capri; the series II was a hot little number that gave a nod to the styling influence of the Fox body Mustang.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: cawimmer430 on December 29, 2012, 06:36:05 AM
Pontiac.  :mrcool:
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: 280Z Turbo on December 29, 2012, 12:15:53 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on December 28, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
(http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/8889107/0710phr_02_z+1977_pontiac_trans_am+year_one_bandit.jpg)
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/faceoff8.jpg)

I like that one better. The 1980 model looks worse.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: S204STi on December 29, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
Mustang.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: MrH on December 29, 2012, 01:25:42 PM
Hard to deny the thunderchicken in this situation.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: MX793 on December 29, 2012, 01:52:17 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 29, 2012, 05:58:54 AM
I always liked the idea of a Capri; the series II was a hot little number that gave a nod to the styling influence of the Fox body Mustang.

It wasn't so much a nod to the Fox Mustang styling as it was was pretty much a Mustang rebadge with revised front and rear fascia.  They were built on the same platform.

Capri
(http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/3278/4161/8194580036_large.jpg)

Mustang
(http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/3942/medium/1989_ford_mustang_lx_hatchback.JPG)
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: sparkplug on December 29, 2012, 08:35:36 PM
mustang and camaros are just a classic icons of the 80s and they still have a strong aftermarket.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: S204STi on December 29, 2012, 09:29:00 PM
A guy next door has a 5.0 parked in his garage.  I'd like to make him an offer...
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on December 30, 2012, 07:08:05 AM
Quote from: Laconian on December 27, 2012, 06:23:30 PM
Can we make this a Turbo T/A? I want power to swell out of my hood to tell the world where it's at!

Pontiac Trans Am 1980 TV commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSh2i-LB3Vw#)
More
Pontiac Excitement
for the Great ones
Thats my pick too.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 31, 2012, 03:14:53 PM
pfft. According to Car & Driver this was faster than the 'Stang at speeds above 100mph=

(http://www.autogush.com/images/ford-taurus-sho-1989-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Northlands on January 02, 2013, 07:07:54 PM
Trans Am.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on February 10, 2013, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: Rockraven on December 27, 2012, 05:25:50 PM
(http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1980-1989/1983-Ford-Mustang-GT-Front-1024x768.jpg)

(http://www.stangranch.com/graphics/CharcoalTurbo.jpg)

(http://acuitzeramo.com/portfl0w/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=219&stc=1&d=1260405321)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m1rFSbS1jTw/UJADciGgf8I/AAAAAAAABkY/j1O0uzlU5wE/s1600/1979+29+trans+am.jpg)

You're speaking my language with these car choices!

Definitely the Trans Am.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: mzziaz on February 10, 2013, 11:42:06 PM
Capri!
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Submariner on February 14, 2013, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Laconian on December 27, 2012, 06:23:30 PM
Can we make this a Turbo T/A? I want power to swell out of my hood to tell the world where it's at!

Pontiac Trans Am 1980 TV commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSh2i-LB3Vw#)
More
Pontiac Excitement
for the Great ones

That's just too much awesome to handle. 
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Submariner on February 14, 2013, 11:39:03 AM
Walking, public transportation, sexual favors for rides.  I've had the distinct displeasure of riding in two of those turds, and even though they were the better part of thirty years old when I was in them, you could tell they were rancid, decaying abominations straight off the production line. 
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: 93JC on February 18, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Submariner on February 14, 2013, 11:39:03 AM
Walking, public transportation, sexual favors for rides.  I've had the distinct displeasure of riding in two of those turds, and even though they were the better part of thirty years old when I was in them, you could tell they were rancid, decaying abominations straight off the production line. 

(http://i.imgur.com/6T3VYgi.gif)
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 19, 2013, 01:43:57 PM
I always liked those Capris, but the Z28 is a close second.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: shp4man on February 19, 2013, 02:55:32 PM
If you were inclined, it would be relatively easy to replace the engine/transmission in the Camaro with something that would make it go as fast as it looks.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 19, 2013, 07:37:28 PM
Quote from: shp4man on February 19, 2013, 02:55:32 PM
If you were inclined, it would be relatively easy to replace the engine/transmission in the Camaro with something that would make it go as fast as it looks.

Chevy crate motors are a dime/dozen and all of them make 3-400HP with bolt ons.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: GoCougs on February 19, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: shp4man on February 19, 2013, 02:55:32 PM
If you were inclined, it would be relatively easy to replace the engine/transmission in the Camaro with something that would make it go as fast as it looks.

Behold - moderately built 350 (Performer RPM cam/carb/manifold, ported heads, 9.5:1 CR, headers) and even swapped out the Turbo 350 for a Turbo 400 (would not recommend however). This is the day I bought it - mods didn't come till much later though.

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3517/camaroj.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/camaroj.png/)

Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 19, 2013, 09:34:42 PM
Unacceptable. This is not a Camcord.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: Payman on February 20, 2013, 05:35:54 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on February 19, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Behold - moderately built 350 (Performer RPM cam/carb/manifold, ported heads, 9.5:1 CR, headers) and even swapped out the Turbo 350 for a Turbo 400 (would not recommend however). This is the day I bought it - mods didn't come till much later though.

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3517/camaroj.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/camaroj.png/)



Beautiful. One of the few designs that don't quite look complete without a spoiler.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: GoCougs on February 20, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
Thanks. I couldn't afford a "spoiled" Camaro. That car looked great but the 2-bbl 305 V8 was toast (specifically, flat cam lobes, bad carb and low-ish compression) and was only good for ~100 mph.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: cawimmer430 on February 21, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on February 19, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Behold - moderately built 350 (Performer RPM cam/carb/manifold, ported heads, 9.5:1 CR, headers) and even swapped out the Turbo 350 for a Turbo 400 (would not recommend however). This is the day I bought it - mods didn't come till much later though.

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3517/camaroj.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/camaroj.png/)



How come no Mopar muscle car? :lol:
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: GoCougs on February 21, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on February 21, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
How come no Mopar muscle car? :lol:

Couldn't afford a decent one at the time (was only age 16) whereas '70s Camaros were a dime a dozen. Mopars didn't come till after college ('72 Demon below, and than a Power Wagon pickup and Ramcharger):

(http://imageshack.us/a/img99/5522/demonside.png)
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: CALL_911 on February 21, 2013, 12:56:15 PM
That's a pretty cool car for a 16 year old. Especially considering you bought it yourself. props son
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: GoCougs on February 21, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 21, 2013, 12:56:15 PM
That's a pretty cool car for a 16 year old. Especially considering you bought it yourself. props son

Thanks. I started working at just before age 16 for $3.35/hr at the local grocery store. I begged/borrowed and cheaped out on everything I could for about a year, and then with my saved $1,900 bought a few months before my 17th b-day I bought the blue bomber off a shady used lot.

In that pic it actually looks nicer than it really was IRL - it was 10 years old and had ~120,000 miles on it. The paint was good but it had some shoddy body work, the interior had some wear-n-tear and as I noted the motor was tired. But it was all mine baby!!!
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: CALL_911 on February 21, 2013, 01:46:46 PM
It has to be a nice feeling. Much as I love my car, I know I'd like it (appreciate it) 129308x more if I had paid for it.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: GoCougs on February 22, 2013, 07:15:40 PM
Mega nostalgia. I think this is actually the day that I bought it. In the above pics the tires are different F&R but here they are the same. This was me likely heading out to work at the local grocery store.

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1668/camaroj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/camaroj.jpg/)

Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: hotrodalex on March 02, 2013, 01:57:23 AM
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 21, 2013, 12:56:15 PM
That's a pretty cool car for a 16 year old. Especially considering you bought it yourself. props son

15 years ago it was much easier to get a cool car like that. My dad bought his Camaro in 10x better shape than my El Camino and has probably spent less on it even though it's in better condition and has more go-fast parts.

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x253/calfan5/nashville11002.jpg)

(side note - 2nd gens look sooooo much better after the front end is lowered ~2 inches. not sure how my dad could stand the stock height for so many years)
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: hotrodalex on March 02, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
Still partial to the Trans Am of that year, though.

(http://image.automotive.com/f/images/14573957+pheader/hppp_0904_01_z+1971_pontiac_trans_am+front_angle.jpg)

:wub:
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: GoCougs on March 02, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
15 years ago? More like almost 25 years ago ;) (pic was taken in summer 1988). But yeah, those were the ONLY (sorta) cool cars pretty much even remotely in reach for a young adult. The import scene was unthinkable at that point, and the redneck truck/jeep/suv scene was much smaller (and actually the lowered mini pickup scene was probably bigger).

Not sure why but FWIW that front license plate is hanging in my parents' garage to this day.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: hotrodalex on March 02, 2013, 11:23:44 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on March 02, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
15 years ago? More like almost 25 years ago ;) (pic was taken in summer 1988).

Ehh, anywhere from 15-30 years ago was pretty good for picking up cool old cars for cheaper(er).

Quote
But yeah, those were the ONLY (sorta) cool cars pretty much even remotely in reach for a young adult. The import scene was unthinkable at that point, and the redneck truck/jeep/suv scene was much smaller (and actually the lowered mini pickup scene was probably bigger).

Not sure why but FWIW that front license plate is hanging in my parents' garage to this day.

I probably would have had a mini truck if I was in my late teens back then.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on March 02, 2013, 04:45:46 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on February 22, 2013, 07:15:40 PM
Mega nostalgia. I think this is actually the day that I bought it. In the above pics the tires are different F&R but here they are the same. This was me likely heading out to work at the local grocery store.

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1668/camaroj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/camaroj.jpg/)

The acid-wash jeans are a nice touch, too.  :lol:
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on March 02, 2013, 04:47:32 PM
Quote from: Laconian on December 27, 2012, 06:23:30 PM
Can we make this a Turbo T/A? I want power to swell out of my hood to tell the world where it's at!

Pontiac Trans Am 1980 TV commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSh2i-LB3Vw#)
More
Pontiac Excitement
for the Great ones

That's great!  I love it.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on March 02, 2013, 04:49:17 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on December 29, 2012, 12:15:53 PM
I like that one better. The 1980 model looks worse.

The '78 was really the last one I liked.  After that, GM ramped up the gindoloon factor and they moved steadily down the social scale.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on March 02, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on February 21, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
Thanks. I started working at just before age 16 for $3.35/hr at the local grocery store. I begged/borrowed and cheaped out on everything I could for about a year, and then with my saved $1,900 bought a few months before my 17th b-day I bought the blue bomber off a shady used lot.

In that pic it actually looks nicer than it really was IRL - it was 10 years old and had ~120,000 miles on it. The paint was good but it had some shoddy body work, the interior had some wear-n-tear and as I noted the motor was tired. But it was all mine baby!!!

Was the Camaro an '81?
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on March 02, 2013, 04:56:50 PM
Here's what I was driving in 1980.  Not a Trans Am, but a standard 1973 Firebird.

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/davidvanvlack/Untitled-22.jpg)
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/davidvanvlack/Untitled-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: hotrodalex on March 03, 2013, 01:22:34 AM
White interior? Nice.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: GoCougs on March 03, 2013, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: dazzleman on March 02, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
Was the Camaro an '81?

It was a '79.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on March 03, 2013, 11:26:40 AM
Quote from: hotrodalex on March 03, 2013, 01:22:34 AM
White interior? Nice.

Yes, white interior and vinyl top.  Stylin', at least for back then.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on March 03, 2013, 11:27:48 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on March 03, 2013, 08:32:20 AM
It was a '79.

The Firebird had some major changes to the styling in '79.  I imagine the Camaro did too, but the headlights look pretty similar to the earlier period ('76-78).

How long did you have that car?
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: GoCougs on March 03, 2013, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on March 03, 2013, 11:27:48 AM
The Firebird had some major changes to the styling in '79.  I imagine the Camaro did too, but the headlights look pretty similar to the earlier period ('76-78).

How long did you have that car?

The Camaro didn't have quite as many styling changes as the Firebird. For the Camaro headlights and upper grill were basically the same '74 - '81. However, there was a change in there on front bumpers...

The '74 - '77 had an exposed front bumper:

(http://www.dankoreproductions.com/wp-content/themes/danko/images/static-headers/1974-1977-camaro-z-28.jpg)


The '78 - '81 had a hidden front bumper:

(http://www.remarkablecars.com/main/chevrolet/1978-camaro-1.jpg)

More nostalgia. I had the blue bomber till after college. During college I was bored and not really doing the best with it all so I diverted myself into spending too much money hot rodding it (my one and only experience with running up credit cards - but by today's standards that $3k was nothing). It kept me busy and sane but it ultimately didn't work out too well and I ended up selling it to a friend for only $500. He did some work to it (I had my first engineering job so was too busy to deal with it) and sold it. Who knows where it is now.


Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: L. ed foote on March 03, 2013, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on March 02, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
15 years ago? More like almost 25 years ago ;) (pic was taken in summer 1988). But yeah, those were the ONLY (sorta) cool cars pretty much even remotely in reach for a young adult. The import scene was unthinkable at that point, and the redneck truck/jeep/suv scene was much smaller (and actually the lowered mini pickup scene was probably bigger).

Not sure why but FWIW that front license plate is hanging in my parents' garage to this day.

Ah, I remember when minitrucks were all the rage :lol: I used to subscribe to "Truckin" & "Hot Rod" magazines. People were all about filling the bed with speakers. Still are, come to think of it...

The import scene was starting to take off, but then again, I was in an area with a lot of Puerto Ricans, so there was no shortage of hopped up "punto ochos."

I do remember seeing quite a few GTI's, Sciroccos, I-Marks/Spectrums and Sprint Turbos back then; late 80's early 90's.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: CJ on March 03, 2013, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on March 02, 2013, 04:56:50 PM
Here's what I was driving in 1980.  Not a Trans Am, but a standard 1973 Firebird.

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/davidvanvlack/Untitled-22.jpg)
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/davidvanvlack/Untitled-6.jpg)


Ugh.  Such a poor person's car.
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: dazzleman on March 03, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: CJ on March 03, 2013, 02:15:24 PM

Ugh.  Such a poor person's car.
:lol:  I was poor then!
Title: Re: Meatloaf, mullets, and MTV
Post by: CJ on March 03, 2013, 05:56:14 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on March 03, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
:lol:  I was poor then!

You think that's an excuse?