Miata vs Camaro/Mustang

Started by CaminoRacer, May 18, 2020, 09:24:03 AM

Mazda6 replacement:

NA/NB Miata
1 (6.7%)
NC Miata
3 (20%)
ND Miata
4 (26.7%)
Camaro 1LE
3 (20%)
Mustang trackpack
4 (26.7%)

Total Members Voted: 15

CaminoRacer

What should I replace my Mazda6 with eventually?

I won't have a garage spot for it, so used would probably be better than buying new.
I live in Utah where the roads are mostly straight and things are far apart.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

FoMoJo

You already got your hot rod, so it should be a Miata.
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CALL_911



2004 S2000
2016 340xi

Xer0


shp4man

Do you already have a family vehicle?

CaminoRacer

Quote from: shp4man on May 18, 2020, 09:56:45 AM
Do you already have a family vehicle?

Bolt. Might not work for roadtrips but we could just rent a car
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: CALL_911 on May 18, 2020, 09:49:55 AM
ND. /thread

I might feel bad parking that outside all the time, though. NC Miata is half the price and maybe I wouldn't feel as bad?
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CaminoRacer

https://www.flyinmiata.com/flyin-miata-nc-supercharger-system.html

:hmm:

I'd prefer a real blower belt instead of a serpentine, but I suppose the serpentine is easier to install & fit in the engine bay.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

SJ_GTI

I voted ND but an NC would be a close second.

Rich

If you already have the El Camino, Miata all the way.  If you didn't have it, I'd have chosen one of the pony cars.
2003 Mazda Miata 5MT; 2005 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport 4AT

Laconian

You live in Provo, so you have beautiful mountains in your backyard. Miata! Miata!
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CALL_911

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 18, 2020, 10:26:18 AM
I might feel bad parking that outside all the time, though. NC Miata is half the price and maybe I wouldn't feel as bad?

You'll feel bad for like a week and forget about it


2004 S2000
2016 340xi

shp4man

NC2 Miata. Track days? Club. Driver? Grand Touring. The folding hardtop or PRHT is durable and easy. Your wife will like it,too.

2o6

The extra space of the Camaro/Mustang would be nice, but also those cars feel like driving houses compared to the ND.


Get a nice used ND next year for like $15k max.

mzziaz

Fiat Spider. I'm sure the residual are worse than the ND
Cuore Sportivo

CaminoRacer

Quote from: mzziaz on May 18, 2020, 03:38:31 PM
Fiat Spider. I'm sure the residual are worse than the ND

This is true. I don't know if I care for the turbo engine, though. I like torque, but not delayed torque. I'm spoiled by my V8 El Camino and EV
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mzziaz

Abarth + chip = 200 hp. Would be a blast in that chassis.
Cuore Sportivo

giant_mtb

Roads are mostly straight and things are far apart?  Camaro.

But ehhhhhhhhh Miater!

Eye of the Tiger

2008 TUNDRA (Truck Ultra-wideband Never-say-die Daddy Rottweiler Awesome)

SJ_GTI

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 18, 2020, 04:13:10 PM
This is true. I don't know if I care for the turbo engine, though. I like torque, but not delayed torque. I'm spoiled by my V8 El Camino and EV

I find the power deliver on my 225 HP Z3 more satisfying than the 290 HP Golf for exactly this reason.

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 18, 2020, 04:13:10 PM
This is true. I don't know if I care for the turbo engine, though. I like torque, but not delayed torque. I'm spoiled by my V8 El Camino and EV
3 Chevys for the win........
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MrH

If you're still a few years out, a used 2019 ND is by far the best bet
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: MrH on May 20, 2020, 06:51:04 AM
If you're still a few years out, a used 2019 ND is by far the best bet

I'm probably 1 year out, max. Could probably get something at the end of the summer if I want to. So 2019 is unlikely, ND would probably have to be like a 2017 or 2018 at the newest unless I bought a new one.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

MX793

You already have a V8 and a practical vehicle.  Arguably, the Camino also doubles as a versatile hauler if you need to pick up something bulky.  I feel like a pony car would basically scratch the same itch as the El Camino.  Miata would be very different from anything in the stable currently.  Granted, if all of your roads are straight and flat, the only added dimension it really brings is the open air element.  But it would probably be fun to take it to the occasional AutoX.  NDs are kind of an overdog in the stock class.
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shp4man

I've noticed other car enthusiasts will occasionally try to contest the Miata in some way. Most of them can easily take me in a straight line contest, so my tactic is to keep them going till we hit a nice hard corner, at which point I can leave them in the dust. Well, most of them, not other roadsters. One guy actually spun out and ended up facing backwards on a freeway on-ramp.  :praise:

CaminoRacer

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C7 on May 19, 2020, 11:09:38 PM
3 Chevys for the win........

Right? :lol:

Quote from: MX793 on May 20, 2020, 12:29:18 PM
You already have a V8 and a practical vehicle.  Arguably, the Camino also doubles as a versatile hauler if you need to pick up something bulky.  I feel like a pony car would basically scratch the same itch as the El Camino.  Miata would be very different from anything in the stable currently.  Granted, if all of your roads are straight and flat, the only added dimension it really brings is the open air element.  But it would probably be fun to take it to the occasional AutoX.  NDs are kind of an overdog in the stock class.

If I lived back east near the Appalachians or in California near the nice canyon roads, Miata would be a sure-thing. Utah has some decent mountain roads but there's a lot of straight flat openness everywhere else. That's where a pony car is tempting, especially the newer Camaros and Mustangs that have V8 power and good handling. But, the cost of a V8 pony car is a decent amount more than a similar year/condition Miata. And while their handling is excellent on paper, they're still heavier and bulkier than a Miata and don't have that same nimble feeling.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

CaminoRacer

Quote from: shp4man on May 20, 2020, 12:34:59 PM
I've noticed other car enthusiasts will occasionally try to contest the Miata in some way. Most of them can easily take me in a straight line contest, so my tactic is to keep them going till we hit a nice hard corner, at which point I can leave them in the dust. Well, most of them, not other roadsters. One guy actually spun out and ended up facing backwards on a freeway on-ramp.  :praise:

Just don't try that against my El Camino with it's 200 treadwear autocross tires - the front end has so much grip that it'll break the spindles before it understeers :lol:
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

MX793

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 20, 2020, 12:37:26 PM

If I lived back east near the Appalachians or in California near the nice canyon roads, Miata would be a sure-thing. Utah has some decent mountain roads but there's a lot of straight flat openness everywhere else. That's where a pony car is tempting, especially the newer Camaros and Mustangs that have V8 power and good handling. But, the cost of a V8 pony car is a decent amount more than a similar year/condition Miata. And while their handling is excellent on paper, they're still heavier and bulkier than a Miata and don't have that same nimble feeling.

The other piece will be fuel, tires, brakes, etc...  All much more expensive with the pony cars.  Every time I talk tires with my AutoX buddies who have Miatas or hot hatches with 16 or 17" wheels that they can buy a set of 200TW tires for less than half what I pay (and get more life out of them to boot), I start thinking about trading in for an ND.
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Raza

Shelby GT350 is the answer.
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FoMoJo

Quote from: Raza  on May 20, 2020, 09:48:52 PM
Shelby GT350 is the answer.
Categorically, it is always the answer.
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