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Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 16, 2005, 07:02:28 PM
As the title says...can people on pedal bikes get pulled over for speeding if they are riding on the road?  I've heard a couple times of it happening, but I doubt it because the sources were, well, crap.  So...?
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: footoflead on July 16, 2005, 07:16:51 PM
Dunno...
Probably not unless your on a road bike and can go faster than lance armstrong...(~30 MPH)
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Rupert on July 16, 2005, 07:18:02 PM
Yeah, it's possible. But I don't think it happens very often.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 16, 2005, 07:19:24 PM
QuoteDunno...
Probably not unless your on a road bike and can go faster than lance armstrong...(~30 MPH)
I've hit 38 on city streets.  ;)  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on July 16, 2005, 08:05:45 PM
Do you live in San Francisco? It's pretty tough to hit 38
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: 280Z Turbo on July 16, 2005, 08:51:49 PM
He lives in Michigan's U.P.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 16, 2005, 09:08:30 PM
QuoteDo you live in San Francisco? It's pretty tough to hit 38
No, I live where 280Z said...  If I did live in San Fran (I've been there, I know what it's like) it wouldn't be hard to hit 38...just climb to the top of the streets, then roll down.  :lol:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Laconian on July 16, 2005, 09:56:05 PM
I wondered about this myself.

I go much faster than cars do on the hills back from the mountain bike trails near my house. My friend's speedo clocked us going almost 40.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 16, 2005, 09:57:25 PM
QuoteI wondered about this myself.

I go much faster than cars do on the hills back from the mountain bike trails near my house. My friend's speedo clocked us going almost 40.
Yep.  Try to do that when there's a cop nearby and see if he pulls you over...then come here and tell me so I know if I have to worry or not.  ;)  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Rupert on July 17, 2005, 02:59:58 AM
I've hit 45 on a big hill in the country. I would have gone faster, but the bike was old and out of tune...
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: dazzleman on July 17, 2005, 05:00:12 AM
Every once in a while, I hear about a bike rider getting a ticket for something.  Generally, it has something to do with blowing stop signs or traffic lights.  I imagine a speeding ticket on a bike is possible, but it has to be pretty rare.

One funny thing I've heard about is speeders on local streets getting pulled over by cops on bikes.  My town has a bike patrol, and those officers sometimes give out tickets for speeding on the local streets.  

Getting pulled over and ticketed by a cop on a regular bike (as opposed to a motorcycle) would be pretty embarrassing.  Kind of like getting your azz handed to you by a 75-year-old woman.... :lol:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: ifcar on July 17, 2005, 06:11:54 AM
I assume that police theoretically can ticket bicyclists, but wouldn't unless they were behaving unsafely. Running a red light in the city would be behaving unsafely, but I don't think managing to go over the speed limit down the side of a road would qualify.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 17, 2005, 08:20:04 AM
Sweet.  :praise:  I always obey the traffic laws...no point in risking getting nailed by a motorist.  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: dazzleman on July 17, 2005, 08:53:39 AM
QuoteSweet.  :praise:  I always obey the traffic laws...no point in risking getting nailed by a motorist.
I agree.  If you're doing crazy things on a bike, a ticket is the least of your worries.

That's actually true in a car also.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: TurboDan on July 17, 2005, 09:06:04 AM
I wonder exactly HOW they would ticket you, though.  I don't always carry my wallet and license with me just for a casual bike ride.  Do bike violations count towards your real driving record?
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: ifcar on July 17, 2005, 09:09:04 AM
What you do on a bicycle has nothing to do with your license to operate a car.  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: dazzleman on July 17, 2005, 09:34:31 AM
QuoteI wonder exactly HOW they would ticket you, though.  I don't always carry my wallet and license with me just for a casual bike ride.  Do bike violations count towards your real driving record?
Logically, I would think they cannot, since you don't need a license to ride a bike.  A ticket on a bike is probably more like a parking violation.

I have to admit, the idea of getting a ticket on a bike is pretty funny, but also pretty lame.  If I'm going to get a ticket, I want one I can brag about to my buddies.... :lol:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 17, 2005, 12:17:20 PM
QuoteI wonder exactly HOW they would ticket you, though.  I don't always carry my wallet and license with me just for a casual bike ride.  Do bike violations count towards your real driving record?
Yeah...can they even ticket me if I'm not a licensed driver?  :blink:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 17, 2005, 12:17:46 PM
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QuoteI wonder exactly HOW they would ticket you, though.  I don't always carry my wallet and license with me just for a casual bike ride.  Do bike violations count towards your real driving record?
Logically, I would think they cannot, since you don't need a license to ride a bike.  A ticket on a bike is probably more like a parking violation.

I have to admit, the idea of getting a ticket on a bike is pretty funny, but also pretty lame.  If I'm going to get a ticket, I want one I can brag about to my buddies.... :lol:
You can brag to your buddies when you say you got a ticket riding your bike 40 MPH down the 25 MPH city streets.  ;)  :lol:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: dazzleman on July 17, 2005, 12:20:48 PM
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You can brag to your buddies when you say you got a ticket riding your bike 40 MPH down the 25 MPH city streets.  ;)  :lol:
:lol: I could only get to that speed on a steep downward incline.  I'd be afraid I'd kill myself going that fast on a bike. ;)

Most of my friends are more of the 80 mph on the highway type guys.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 17, 2005, 12:21:52 PM
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You can brag to your buddies when you say you got a ticket riding your bike 40 MPH down the 25 MPH city streets.  ;)  :lol:
:lol: I could only get to that speed on a steep downward incline.  I'd be afraid I'd kill myself going that fast on a bike. ;)

Most of my friends are more of the 80 mph on the highway type guys.
Ahhh...well, my buddy and I can only get 40 going down the hills as well, although we can speed on the flats, too.  It's pretty funny when your on a bike and you're passing cars on a flat piece of road...  :lol:  :lol:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: bobwill on July 17, 2005, 12:23:13 PM
Although it's been hit on pretty much, in almost any locality in the country a bicyclist is held to all the same traffic laws as a motor vehicle.  Meaning, no riding on the sidewalk, yield to pedestrians, signal before turnsl.  In Maryland it goes as far as to require a horn or bell to on any vehicle operated on public property and a light is required on anything operated at night or in inclemement weather.

You know, some of the guys in the tour have hit over 60mph descending on the mountain stages.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: ifcar on July 17, 2005, 12:24:44 PM
There's a difference between having a law and enforcing it. ;)
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 17, 2005, 12:32:22 PM
QuoteAlthough it's been hit on pretty much, in almost any locality in the country a bicyclist is held to all the same traffic laws as a motor vehicle.  Meaning, no riding on the sidewalk, yield to pedestrians, signal before turnsl.  In Maryland it goes as far as to require a horn or bell to on any vehicle operated on public property and a light is required on anything operated at night or in inclemement weather.

You know, some of the guys in the tour have hit over 60mph descending on the mountain stages.
Yep.

One of the teachers at my high school is a serious biker as well.  He told me about this one time he was down in the Appalachian (sp) Mountains and he was on his road bike.  He told me that he was passing semi's going 70 MPH...on a bike.  That's absolutely insane.  One little rock to knock his steering off and he woulda been dead and then some.  :lol:  :lol:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: bobwill on July 17, 2005, 12:57:14 PM
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QuoteAlthough it's been hit on pretty much, in almost any locality in the country a bicyclist is held to all the same traffic laws as a motor vehicle.  Meaning, no riding on the sidewalk, yield to pedestrians, signal before turnsl.  In Maryland it goes as far as to require a horn or bell to on any vehicle operated on public property and a light is required on anything operated at night or in inclemement weather.

You know, some of the guys in the tour have hit over 60mph descending on the mountain stages.
Yep.

One of the teachers at my high school is a serious biker as well.  He told me about this one time he was down in the Appalachian (sp) Mountains and he was on his road bike.  He told me that he was passing semi's going 70 MPH...on a bike.  That's absolutely insane.  One little rock to knock his steering off and he woulda been dead and then some.  :lol:  :lol:
He wouldn't be dead necessarily.  It's estimated that when Joseba Beloki wrecked back in 2003 that he was pushin 50mph.  He didn't walk away from the wreck as he broke a femur in I think two places, and it took him more than 9 months before he got back into any races, and he still isn't fully recovered after two years, but he lived.  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 17, 2005, 01:03:14 PM
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QuoteAlthough it's been hit on pretty much, in almost any locality in the country a bicyclist is held to all the same traffic laws as a motor vehicle.  Meaning, no riding on the sidewalk, yield to pedestrians, signal before turnsl.  In Maryland it goes as far as to require a horn or bell to on any vehicle operated on public property and a light is required on anything operated at night or in inclemement weather.

You know, some of the guys in the tour have hit over 60mph descending on the mountain stages.
Yep.

One of the teachers at my high school is a serious biker as well.  He told me about this one time he was down in the Appalachian (sp) Mountains and he was on his road bike.  He told me that he was passing semi's going 70 MPH...on a bike.  That's absolutely insane.  One little rock to knock his steering off and he woulda been dead and then some.  :lol:  :lol:
He wouldn't be dead necessarily.  It's estimated that when Joseba Beloki wrecked back in 2003 that he was pushin 50mph.  He didn't walk away from the wreck as he broke a femur in I think two places, and it took him more than 9 months before he got back into any races, and he still isn't fully recovered after two years, but he lived.
Yeah, but he wasn't amongst semi trucks and cars on a freeway.  If my teacher had wiped out, he most likely would have been run over.  ;)  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: JWC on July 17, 2005, 05:11:28 PM
I used to be pretty serious about cycling.

One of my riding buddies was given a speeding ticket on his DeRosa doing 45mph in a 25mph.  He tried to convince the LEO that he was training for a race, which he was, but it didn't make any difference.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 17, 2005, 05:40:23 PM
Whenever I ride I'm training for a race.  :praise:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Raza on July 17, 2005, 05:51:12 PM
Another instance of the police keeping the citizens safe.  

:rolleyes:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: TurboDan on July 17, 2005, 05:56:55 PM
QuoteAnother instance of the police keeping the citizens safe.  

:rolleyes:
Eh, I've seen some bikers do pretty dumb things on the road.  Some of them deserve a ticket.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Raza on July 17, 2005, 05:59:17 PM
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QuoteAnother instance of the police keeping the citizens safe. 

:rolleyes:
Eh, I've seen some bikers do pretty dumb things on the road.  Some of them deserve a ticket.
I've also seen a lot of dumb things done by drivers at legal speeds.  They don't get tickets.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 17, 2005, 05:59:57 PM
The thing I hate most about bikers is the road bikers.  They'll ride down a highway with 65 MPH traffic right on the white line.  Why can't they just move over a few feet so they don't piss off the motorists and don't cause an accident?!  :angry:  :angry:  Whenever I ride on a road I always ride as far right as possible...and that's more than enough room around here because all the roads have 5+ foot shoulders.  Roadies piss me off.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: 280Z Turbo on July 17, 2005, 09:18:14 PM
You're not supposed to ride on the sidewalk and riding in the gravel is slow.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2005, 09:00:09 AM
I ride on the sidewalk all the times...and I've never been yelled at or ran into anybody.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 18, 2005, 09:10:11 AM
QuoteThe thing I hate most about bikers is the road bikers.  They'll ride down a highway with 65 MPH traffic right on the white line.  Why can't they just move over a few feet so they don't piss off the motorists and don't cause an accident?!  :angry:  :angry:  Whenever I ride on a road I always ride as far right as possible...and that's more than enough room around here because all the roads have 5+ foot shoulders.  Roadies piss me off.
that's why you keep a rubber hand mounted to the end of a broomstick so that when you pass them in your car you can roll the window down a bitch slap them across the head.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Raghavan on July 18, 2005, 11:40:12 AM
QuoteI ride on the sidewalk all the times...and I've never been yelled at or ran into anybody.
You did 38 on a sidewalk??
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2005, 12:07:18 PM
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QuoteI ride on the sidewalk all the times...and I've never been yelled at or ran into anybody.
You did 38 on a sidewalk??
No...when we do our highspeed runs we go on the road...much smoother and less risk of hitting peddy's.  ;)   But when we aren't trying to pass cars, we'll ride on the sidewalk.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2005, 12:09:37 PM
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QuoteThe thing I hate most about bikers is the road bikers.  They'll ride down a highway with 65 MPH traffic right on the white line.  Why can't they just move over a few feet so they don't piss off the motorists and don't cause an accident?!  :angry:  :angry:  Whenever I ride on a road I always ride as far right as possible...and that's more than enough room around here because all the roads have 5+ foot shoulders.  Roadies piss me off.
that's why you keep a rubber hand mounted to the end of a broomstick so that when you pass them in your car you can roll the window down a bitch slap them across the head.
:lol:  :lol:

You shouldn't give me any ideas...

Me and my brother almost got in an accident because of one of those faggot roadies.  So we're going down a 45 MPH section of road with a 5+ foot shoulder.  There was a roadie on the right riding the white line.  But, we were on a hill...and we weren't aware it was a blind hill.  My brother was going to go around him, but as soon as we got a few feet past the crest of the hill, a car pops up out of the blind spot of the hill and my bro has to slam on the brakes and fall back behind the biker just so we can get back into our own fucking lane safely...and as we passed the biker, he had me flip him the bird out the window.  :rockon:  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Rupert on July 23, 2005, 08:22:10 PM
QuoteThe thing I hate most about bikers is the road bikers.  They'll ride down a highway with 65 MPH traffic right on the white line.  Why can't they just move over a few feet so they don't piss off the motorists and don't cause an accident?!  :angry:  :angry:  Whenever I ride on a road I always ride as far right as possible...and that's more than enough room around here because all the roads have 5+ foot shoulders.  Roadies piss me off.
*smack* :angry:
Obviously, you've never ridden a road bike very far. You try riding through the debris on the side of the road with skinny tires like that, and you'll see why roadies like to ride in the road. As a (former :( ) roadie/xc-er/"all mountain" rider, I must say that I really don't think it helps anyone to dislike another type of rider.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 25, 2005, 09:25:35 PM
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QuoteThe thing I hate most about bikers is the road bikers.  They'll ride down a highway with 65 MPH traffic right on the white line.  Why can't they just move over a few feet so they don't piss off the motorists and don't cause an accident?!  :angry:  :angry:  Whenever I ride on a road I always ride as far right as possible...and that's more than enough room around here because all the roads have 5+ foot shoulders.  Roadies piss me off.
*smack* :angry:
Obviously, you've never ridden a road bike very far. You try riding through the debris on the side of the road with skinny tires like that, and you'll see why roadies like to ride in the road. As a (former :( ) roadie/xc-er/"all mountain" rider, I must say that I really don't think it helps anyone to dislike another type of rider.
Of course not, but when all of your roads have 5 foot (and bigger) shoulders, don't you think those damn roadies could get off the white line?  I've ridden down all the roads the roadies do and there is very little debris 3 feet from the white line...it's so annoying.  (the shoulders here are big because it makes it a lot easier for plowing in the winter and stuff like that...and they're always very clear)
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Rupert on July 26, 2005, 12:17:12 AM
Lemme turn the tables a little: I don't like freeriders because they destroy and create their own trails. Why can't they just ride on the same trails everyone else uses? :angry:  :angry:  Whenever I want to ride in the forest, I use the trails provided so I don't do furtehr damage tot he ecosystem. Freeriders piss me off.

Roadies have their reasons for riding on the white line, just like freeriders have their reasons for not riding on trails. Often roadies feel like they're in the minority because they're on bikes while everyone else is driving. They want to assert themselves. Except for the very dense few, most roadies will move over (if they can) when they hear a car coming. Even so, road bikers have stuff thrown at them, mean words shouted at them, and cars almost hit them on purpose. You may have had a bad experience once or twice with road bikers, just like I've had a bad experience with freeriders once or twice, but that does not make all roadies or freeriders bad.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: GMPenguin on July 26, 2005, 09:55:32 AM
QuoteI assume that police theoretically can ticket bicyclists, but wouldn't unless they were behaving unsafely. Running a red light in the city would be behaving unsafely, but I don't think managing to go over the speed limit down the side of a road would qualify.
I think our cops are too stupid to know if they can or can't ticket bikers, cause I don't pay attention to any of that crap, and am usually not even on the road if there's a sidewalk.  It's supposedly illegal to ride on the sidewalk on Main Street (some others too I think) but I do it all the time and have never gotten caught or anything (and yes, cops have been around during the aforementioned stuff).
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 26, 2005, 11:03:20 AM
QuoteLemme turn the tables a little: I don't like freeriders because they destroy and create their own trails. Why can't they just ride on the same trails everyone else uses? :angry:  :angry:  Whenever I want to ride in the forest, I use the trails provided so I don't do furtehr damage tot he ecosystem. Freeriders piss me off.

Roadies have their reasons for riding on the white line, just like freeriders have their reasons for not riding on trails. Often roadies feel like they're in the minority because they're on bikes while everyone else is driving. They want to assert themselves. Except for the very dense few, most roadies will move over (if they can) when they hear a car coming. Even so, road bikers have stuff thrown at them, mean words shouted at them, and cars almost hit them on purpose. You may have had a bad experience once or twice with road bikers, just like I've had a bad experience with freeriders once or twice, but that does not make all roadies or freeriders bad.
Ehhh good point(s).  Freeriders do sort of blaze their own trails which isn't a good thing...so you're right, there's a bad thing that everybody does.  And, honestly, I've never seen a roadie pull over a bit when a car's coming...  <_<  <_<  :P  
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 26, 2005, 11:04:43 AM
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QuoteI assume that police theoretically can ticket bicyclists, but wouldn't unless they were behaving unsafely. Running a red light in the city would be behaving unsafely, but I don't think managing to go over the speed limit down the side of a road would qualify.
I think our cops are too stupid to know if they can or can't ticket bikers, cause I don't pay attention to any of that crap, and am usually not even on the road if there's a sidewalk.  It's supposedly illegal to ride on the sidewalk on Main Street (some others too I think) but I do it all the time and have never gotten caught or anything (and yes, cops have been around during the aforementioned stuff).
Yeah I don't think cops really enforce those don't-ride-on-sidewalk laws unless they see you runnin' down senior citizens.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: Rupert on July 27, 2005, 12:17:34 AM
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QuoteLemme turn the tables a little: I don't like freeriders because they destroy and create their own trails. Why can't they just ride on the same trails everyone else uses? :angry:  :angry:  Whenever I want to ride in the forest, I use the trails provided so I don't do furtehr damage tot he ecosystem. Freeriders piss me off.

Roadies have their reasons for riding on the white line, just like freeriders have their reasons for not riding on trails. Often roadies feel like they're in the minority because they're on bikes while everyone else is driving. They want to assert themselves. Except for the very dense few, most roadies will move over (if they can) when they hear a car coming. Even so, road bikers have stuff thrown at them, mean words shouted at them, and cars almost hit them on purpose. You may have had a bad experience once or twice with road bikers, just like I've had a bad experience with freeriders once or twice, but that does not make all roadies or freeriders bad.
Ehhh good point(s).  Freeriders do sort of blaze their own trails which isn't a good thing...so you're right, there's a bad thing that everybody does.  And, honestly, I've never seen a roadie pull over a bit when a car's coming...  <_<  <_<  :P
My point is simply that unity among bikers is needed if any of them want any positive change. If you want more trails to be open (and I know I do), it doesn't help to try to antagonize roadies.
Title: Can pedal-bikes get pulled over for speeding?
Post by: SargeMonkey on August 02, 2005, 02:07:19 AM
I hit 38 on a bmx bike, the I relized the tires are rated for 18, I had a flat when I got home.