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Title: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 04, 2020, 05:36:47 AM
Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT

The new 2021 Hyundai Veloster N was only just unveiled for the U.S. market but the car is already on sale in South Korea.

While the 2021 Veloster N doesn't look any different than the outgoing model, it is now available with a wet eight-speed dual-clutch transmission, in addition to the six-speed manual. Not only will the eight-speed auto help to broaden the appeal of the car but it will likely prove to be the most popular of the two gearbox options.

To make the dual-clutch transmission just as entertaining to drive as the manual, Hyundai's N division has added some cool driver-focused features.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7z9p0oAyeA

First is an 'N Grin Shift' (NGS) mode that increases torque by 7 per cent from 260 lb-ft (352 Nm) to 278 lb-ft (377 Nm) by allowing turbocharger overboost and maximizing transmission response for 20 seconds. Additionally, there is an N Power Shift (NPS) mode that engages when the car accelerates at more than 90 per cent throttle and operates upshifts at the perfect time.

As Asian Petrolhead discovers in his review, the eight-speed works beautifully. It provides quick shifts and it includes a manual mode that won't automatically upshift, even if you are banging against the rev limiter.

Paired to the new dual-clutch is a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder with 275 hp. Hyundai says the Veloster N with the DCT will hit 60 mph (96 km/h) in just 5.6 seconds and as this review confirms, the car's exhaust loves to crackle and pop just as much as the six-speed Veloster N.


Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2020/08/go-for-a-drive-in-the-2021-hyundai-veloster-n-with-its-dct/
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: veeman on August 04, 2020, 08:18:00 AM
I love this car. 
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Xer0 on August 04, 2020, 08:47:02 AM
Its a cool little car, but the local dealer was trying to sell a 2019 example with a 15K "market adjustment" tacked on.  Its not that cool.
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: MrH on August 04, 2020, 08:48:52 AM
Really?  I thought they were going for quite a bit under MSRP now?
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Xer0 on August 04, 2020, 09:29:23 AM
Yeah, which is why I'm very confused.  I think its just the dealer group being greedy and stupid.
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Payman on August 04, 2020, 10:03:11 AM
I don't understand why pocket rockets are so slow. 275 hp and DCT, yet it takes 5.6 seconds to 60? What is it with the manual, 7 seconds?
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Xer0 on August 04, 2020, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on August 04, 2020, 10:03:11 AM
I don't understand why pocket rockets are so slow. 275 hp and DCT, yet it takes 5.6 seconds to 60? What is it with the manual, 7 seconds?

If the last Type R I drove was any indication, traction issues, wheel hop, and having to shift into second to hi 60. 
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: SJ_GTI on August 04, 2020, 12:17:39 PM
I would assume all FWD cars would have trouble on the 0-60 metric (compared to RWD and AWD especially).
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: MX793 on August 09, 2020, 07:26:07 AM
Quote from: Xer0 on August 04, 2020, 09:29:23 AM
Yeah, which is why I'm very confused.  I think its just the dealer group being greedy and stupid.

When the Genesis coupe came out, all of the dealerships around here thought they were Ferraris.  No test drives without a down payment and commitment to buy.  Had to go to 4 dealerships before someone would let me test drive one.
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: MX793 on August 09, 2020, 07:31:33 AM
Quote from: Xer0 on August 04, 2020, 11:34:15 AM
If the last Type R I drove was any indication, traction issues, wheel hop, and having to shift into second to hi 60. 

Most cars require a shift into second to hit 60.  My Mustang only hits 60 in 2nd if you take it past redline and into the rev limiter.

FWD has traction issues at launch.  Weight shifts rearward when you accelerate, which takes weight off of the drive wheels and thus reduces traction.

IIRC, the MT Veloster still hits 60 in under 6 seconds.  Hyundais all seem to underperformed their published horsepower numbers for some reason.
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 09, 2020, 07:41:19 AM
Quote from: MX793 on August 09, 2020, 07:26:07 AM
When the Genesis coupe came out, all of the dealerships around here thought they were Ferraris.  No test drives without a down payment and commitment to buy.  Had to go to 4 dealerships before someone would let me test drive one.

Yep, had the same experience. I actually asked the guy "this is a Kia dealership, right?"
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: r0tor on August 09, 2020, 09:41:13 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on August 04, 2020, 10:03:11 AM
I don't understand why pocket rockets are so slow. 275 hp and DCT, yet it takes 5.6 seconds to 60? What is it with the manual, 7 seconds?

It is rather pathetic
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 09, 2020, 10:03:33 AM
Quote from: r0tor on August 09, 2020, 09:41:13 AM
It is rather pathetic

FWD on normal street tires, its hard to get more than that. 5.6 to 60 is pretty quick all things considered.
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: MX793 on August 09, 2020, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 09, 2020, 10:03:33 AM
FWD on normal street tires, its hard to get more than that. 5.6 to 60 is pretty quick all things considered.

Yeah.  Civic Type R with 306 hp is still mid 5s.
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 09, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
0-60 times are a stupid metric, anymore. 60-120 is where the money is at.
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Tave on August 10, 2020, 11:42:10 AM
Was the 7spd DCT on the Turbo any good? I drove the 6spd on the first gen and thought it was hot garbage.
Title: Re: Go For A Drive In The 2021 Hyundai Veloster N With Its DCT
Post by: Xer0 on August 19, 2020, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: MX793 on August 09, 2020, 07:31:33 AM
Most cars require a shift into second to hit 60.  My Mustang only hits 60 in 2nd if you take it past redline and into the rev limiter.

FWD has traction issues at launch.  Weight shifts rearward when you accelerate, which takes weight off of the drive wheels and thus reduces traction.

IIRC, the MT Veloster still hits 60 in under 6 seconds.  Hyundais all seem to underperformed their published horsepower numbers for some reason.

Yeah you're right, I meant 3rd.  My bad on that.  As best as I can see, most higher performance cars will hit it in 2nd while the hot hatches/econo sporty cars will hit it in 3rd.