So I've been wondering a lot lately, at what point do people think you're a snob when it comes to your car. I think a lot has to do with age, and let's use the fact that I am 20 and in college, but we can discuss the other age brackets too. I hopefully am getting a car over Christmas break (maybe 40% chance) or at the beginning of summer (much better chance), and I was wondering what car would be too much for someone like me? I do go to a private university, so for the people I am around, their opinions may be a bit "inflated", if that makes sense.
I have no clue what any budget would be for my car, so I have been thinking about cars of all years and types. For example, I just pulled up a 2001 Mercedes E55 AMG for $18,900 with only 34,000 miles on ebay. Would I look like an ass, douchebag, or snob with an E55? It is a Mercedes, but an old one, so I don't think it would be too much of a statement.
Also, what about a 2003/4 Range Rover, or 2001 Range Rover? I think the 2001 (era) Range Rover has become antiquated enough to no longer be snobbish, but the 2003 is a much better vehicle and with gas price volatility and their mediocre resale value, one can be had for the low $20K's with ~50-70K miles. That is an excellent deal for a truck that stickered at ~$70K (so what I see as ~$70K worth of engineering) , and since I am in the south, I think it would be a lot of fun to go off-roading or mudding in the swamps around here with some hicks.
A 2004 Audi S4 can be had for roughly $20,000-24,000, and that was always a phenomenal car.
A 1997 Mercedes S500 would be an absolute beast around New Orleans. It was engineered when Mercedes did not set cost targets and built cars "to any expense, as long as it's sound and reliable." I am positive it could handle the horrible roads around here very well and would be fun since it's so powerful, but it's also really huge.
Also, what BMW's are too much for someone my age?
I am trying to gauge your opinions because I know my parents are against my having a car that is "snobbish;" when people say "badge whore," I am trying to get away from that. Unfortunately, I am not a fan of most new cars and all the really awesome cars of yesterday are now conveniently really good prices, but they are also those brand names.
Rule 1: Car guys don't give a shit what other people think of the cars they drive.
Rule 2: There's only one rule.
Who gives a shit, get what you want! My only caution is things tend to get a bit more dinged up in a school environment than elsewhere. You're a preppy from CT, so I think all the choices you outlined fit you well :lol:. My roommate's girlfriend has a '99 Rangie (with the sweet grillguard, headlight guards, and huge rally-ish lights) and it's a fantastic college car due to the number of drunks you can pack in there.
A 2001 car is old? :confused:
You are a douchebag, so who cares.
:lol:
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on December 08, 2008, 10:48:34 AM
So I've been wondering a lot lately, at what point do people think you're a snob when it comes to your car. I think a lot has to do with age, and let's use the fact that I am 20 and in college, but we can discuss the other age brackets too. I hopefully am getting a car over Christmas break (maybe 40% chance) or at the beginning of summer (much better chance), and I was wondering what car would be too much for someone like me? I do go to a private university, so for the people I am around, their opinions may be a bit "inflated", if that makes sense.
I have no clue what any budget would be for my car, so I have been thinking about cars of all years and types. For example, I just pulled up a 2001 Mercedes E55 AMG for $18,900 with only 34,000 miles on ebay. Would I look like an ass, douchebag, or snob with an E55? It is a Mercedes, but an old one, so I don't think it would be too much of a statement.
Also, what about a 2003/4 Range Rover, or 2001 Range Rover? I think the 2001 (era) Range Rover has become antiquated enough to no longer be snobbish, but the 2003 is a much better vehicle and with gas price volatility and their mediocre resale value, one can be had for the low $20K's with ~50-70K miles. That is an excellent deal for a truck that stickered at ~$70K (so what I see as ~$70K worth of engineering) , and since I am in the south, I think it would be a lot of fun to go off-roading or mudding in the swamps around here with some hicks.
A 2004 Audi S4 can be had for roughly $20,000-24,000, and that was always a phenomenal car.
A 1997 Mercedes S500 would be an absolute beast around New Orleans. It was engineered when Mercedes did not set cost targets and built cars "to any expense, as long as it's sound and reliable." I am positive it could handle the horrible roads around here very well and would be fun since it's so powerful, but it's also really huge.
Also, what BMW's are too much for someone my age?
I am trying to gauge your opinions because I know my parents are against my having a car that is "snobbish;" when people say "badge whore," I am trying to get away from that. Unfortunately, I am not a fan of most new cars and all the really awesome cars of yesterday are now conveniently really good prices, but they are also those brand names.
I'm of the opinion that a first car, if bought by the parents, should be safe, conservative, not racy and teach humility.
And if others judge you by what you drive they, not you, have the problem.
It doesn't have much to do with the car itself, but more to do with how big of a deal you decide to make of it. You could get any one of those cars you mentioned and refer to it as "just a car" while someone else driving the same 10-year-old Benz would think that makes him the hot shit. Of course, there will always be people that judge you on such things no matter what your own attitude is, but like everyone already said, fuck 'em.
I think all of the cars you listed are snob cars, or at least they give off that image, but they're all sensible buys. Get a car because you like it and worry about what everyone else thinks second....or maybe last.
btw, just out of curiousity, mind sharing which private univ. in NOLA you're going to?
From what I hear about New Orleans I think anything that isn't actively deteriorating into a pile of rust would look snobby by comparison. :huh: Is there a lot of class resentment in Nawlins?
People are stupid with cars anyways, they'll judge you by the make (the hood ornament) and not the model. So why not go all out and get the S class?
I judge kids I see on campus with nice cars, but I'd openly admit that it's completely out of jealousy. Granted, I think "spoiled son of a bitch" (again with a jealous, not angry, tone) before I think "snob" since I know kids who drive nice cars who aren't snobby.
I agree with Teuton that any of those cars would get you judged on a college campus. Personally, the sport models (AMG and S4) would stand out more to me, but Laconian's right, most people won't know the difference.
If you like Bimmers, you could probably find some good deals on E39s right now, although I doubt any could top that E55.
For example, I'd be all over this if I were you:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___30k-MILES-540i-SPORT-6SPD-PREM-CLD-WTHR-XENON-WHOLESALE_W0QQitemZ380087455710QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item380087455710&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A-1|39%3A1|240%3A1318
I think he attends Tulane.
Though we keep coming back with the altruistic, he's dead on - most people DO judge by what you drive to some extent, and the younger you are the more drastic it will be IMO. At your age I think your concern is coming off as spoiled. I think also that being spoiled is a concern, too.
So to answer your question anything Acura or higher and you'll get the negative affect that you're alluding to. I think also that you're causing yourself some ownership headaches that you'd not see with a newish Accord or Civic.
FWIW, at your age I couldn't have cared less and would have gone full pimp (though such an option wasn't available to me) not giving a hoot what others thought.
Ah, I was guessing it might either be Loyola or Tulane. I went to LMU in L.A., but an old friend of mine went to Tulane.
I agree with all points of your post, though. An interesting observation I made at work is that the execs and upper management all think the Caddy is cool, but those more on my own level don't have as much nice things to say about it :rolleyes:
Who cares what other people think, buy that car!
After parking at Scottsdale Community College for a year, all those you mentioned seem really tame.
Who cares. The competitiveness of humanity prevails no matter what.
btw, I'll promote what I would buy right now, if I could. Either the newest A4 Avant I could get for my $ (fun to drive, comfy luxo, and plenty o space for buddies, ski trips, etc.) or a new Saab 9-3 SportCombi (for the same reasons). No clue what those cost though...
Quote from: J86 on December 08, 2008, 01:40:46 PM
btw, I'll promote what I would buy right now, if I could. Either the newest A4 Avant I could get for my $ (fun to drive, comfy luxo, and plenty o space for buddies, ski trips, etc.) or a new Saab 9-3 SportCombi (for the same reasons). No clue what those cost though...
Since we're playing that game, I'd either get a 540i like the one I linked to, or an E46 M3.
Who really cares?
I only view the driver as a snob if I feel like he has a chip on his shoulder due to his vehicle. If you can manage to be humble and level headed nobody will care what car you drive.
I knew douchebags in college who drove all manner of cars. Buy what you like, douchebaggery is determined by how you act, not what you drive.
Your attitude deterimines whether or not you are a snob, not what kind of car you drive.
So Charlie, I'm gonna go ahead and say that the big takeaway from this thread is I wouldn't sweat too much what others think... :lol:
If the car has Connecticut plates on it, you'll be considered a snob. I wouldn't worry about it. There are worse things. Get the car you like best that you can afford. You're a rich kid, and you can't change that fact. Some people are jealous and resent that, but there's nothing you can do about it. Not driving the car you want won't change it.
I'm glad to hear these opinions. It's what I wanted to hear so I don't think I'll worry too much about it.
Quote from: Vinsanity on December 08, 2008, 11:35:52 AM
It doesn't have much to do with the car itself, but more to do with how big of a deal you decide to make of it. You could get any one of those cars you mentioned and refer to it as "just a car" while someone else driving the same 10-year-old Benz would think that makes him the hot shit. Of course, there will always be people that judge you on such things no matter what your own attitude is, but like everyone already said, fuck 'em.
Ditto! Just get what you like!
Snobby people are ones who buy the cheapest model of a "luxury" car brand and act like they're driving a Ferrari. If you're rolling in an E-Class or Range Rover, that's not snobby, just more stylish than anything else.
It's more about attitude than the actual make/model of car, really.
People think I'm a snob, even after they see my car... drive what you like
Quote from: TurboDan on December 08, 2008, 11:31:03 PM
Snobby people are ones who buy the cheapest model of a "luxury" car brand and act like they're driving a Ferrari.
DAMN RITE! A guy with a
FIRST generation Audi A4 told me he paid 24k for it (this was just last year) and that was a DEAL for a car that cost almost 60k new! :nutty:
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on December 09, 2008, 03:17:46 PM
DAMN RITE! A guy with a FIRST generation Audi A4 told me he paid 24k for it (this was just last year) and that was a DEAL for a car that cost almost 60k new! :nutty:
I'd sure like to be the guy that sold him that car for $24k
Quote from: Vinsanity on December 09, 2008, 03:30:49 PM
I'd sure like to be the guy that sold him that car for $24k
He said he got it at an auction! Gimmie a break!
Quote from: Lebowski on December 08, 2008, 05:56:24 PM
Your attitude deterimines whether or not you are a snob, not what kind of car you drive.
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Look at how snobby you are, and you drive a cheap plastic American car.
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Look at how snobby you are, and you drive a cheap plastic American car.
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Look at how snobby you are, and you drive an overpriced homosexual Nazi car.
Quote from: NACar on December 09, 2008, 04:34:43 PM
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Look at how snobby you are, and you drive an overpriced homosexual Nazi car.
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And look how snobby you are when you drive a car made of recycled New Coke cans.
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And look how snobby you are when you drive a car made of recycled New Coke cans.
Pepsi Free, bitch.
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on December 09, 2008, 03:32:48 PM
He said he got it at an auction! Gimmie a break!
I bet the guy who bid $23k was incredibly relieved.
Quote from: Raza on December 09, 2008, 04:32:11 PM
:hesaid:
Look at how snobby you are, and you drive a cheap plastic American car.
Quote from: Raza on December 09, 2008, 04:36:04 PM
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And look how snobby you are when you drive a car made of recycled New Coke cans.
How can a plastic car be made from aluminum cans?
The Metro is metal isn't it? Really flimsy metal.
Quote from: Vinsanity on December 10, 2008, 11:06:26 AM
How can a plastic car be made from aluminum cans?
Recycling has come a long way.
Quote from: NACar on December 09, 2008, 04:40:36 PM
Pepsi Free, bitch.
Hey pal, if you want a Pepsi, you gotta pay for it!
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on December 10, 2008, 07:58:38 PM
Hey pal, if you want a Pepsi, you gotta pay for it!
Ok, then give me a Tab.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 10, 2008, 08:02:11 PM
Ok, then give me a Tab.
I can't give you a tab unless you order something!
why is everything so heavy in the future? is there a problem with the earth's gravitiational pull?
Hey kid, what did you do, jump ship?
you...are my density <3
I'm going to the dance with Calvin Klein.
On any given day I drive an '06 MINI and they think I'm gay, an '02 Tacoma and they think I'm a redneck and an '06 IS350 and they think I'm a snob. Joke 'em if they can't take a screw, drive whatever you want and keep your head high--you're a car guy!