If you can't beat 'em join 'em - Ford goes pooprod for 2020 Super Duty.

[FoMoJo]

Or was it a modified AC Ace?

Another remarkable partnership with Ford.  "Powered by Ford" was legendary.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Another remarkable partnership with Ford.  "Powered by Ford" was legendary.

Now Mustangs are running around with LS Motors in them.......

[FoMoJo]

Now Mustangs are running around with LS Motors in them.......

Junkers .

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Junkers .

Agreed! Waste a perfectly good motor......

[FoMoJo]

Agreed! Waste a perfectly good motor......

Some guys have no class .

[93JC]

Another remarkable partnership with Ford.  "Powered by Ford" was legendary.

Hng, I love those "POWERED BY FORD" valve covers...

[FoMoJo]

Agreed! Waste a perfectly good motor......

I actually haven't followed 'The Drags' for quite a while, but as torque is king at the strip, it would make a bit of sense to use a push-rod engine.  I can see that the Godzilla engine would be a popular swap for a lot of quarter mile racers.

[GoCougs]

Some guys have no class .

When starting from the ground up (replicas, hot rods, kit cars, etc.) many just want a compact, light, simple, powerful, usable and mod-friendly engine - the GM LS/LT pooprod motor wins that competition 100 times out of 100 vs. any Ford motor ever built.

[CaminoRacer]

Yeah, an LS is just more manageable than a Coyote. If you've got a big Galaxy 500 or something, a Coyote would be fine. But if it's a Cobra kit, I'm gonna use an LS.

[GoCougs]

I actually haven't followed 'The Drags' for quite a while, but as torque is king at the strip, it would make a bit of sense to use a push-rod engine.  I can see that the Godzilla engine would be a popular swap for a lot of quarter mile racers.

Actually, power is king at the drag strip.

Since this is an all-new engine, aftermarket support for parts needed (hi-po heads, cams, etc.) is a long way off, if ever. If a variation of this motor gets rolled out to the Mustang, that would greatly speed the development of such parts.

[GoCougs]

Yeah, an LS is just more manageable than a Coyote. If you've got a big Galaxy 500 or something, a Coyote would be fine. But if it's a Cobra kit, I'm gonna use an LS.

Well, to be fair, if I wanted to do a Cobra replica or modified Ford product in general, I'd go for Ford's closest approximate of an LS/LT - a Windsor with modern stuffs - stroker crank, roller cam, FI. It's not as good a motor as the LS/LT, but it's pretty good and more than enough.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Well, to be fair, if I wanted to do a Cobra replica or modified Ford product in general, I'd go for Ford's closest approximate of an LS/LT - a Windsor with modern stuffs - stroker crank, roller cam, FI. It's not as good a motor as the LS/LT, but it's pretty good and more than enough.

I'll go with a 3.8 Essex V6 with the improved intake of 99+

[CaminoRacer]

Well, to be fair, if I wanted to do a Cobra replica or modified Ford product in general, I'd go for Ford's closest approximate of an LS/LT - a Windsor with modern stuffs - stroker crank, roller cam, FI. It's not as good a motor as the LS/LT, but it's pretty good and more than enough.

I'd stick with carbs. FI is for pansies.

I might do a carb'd LS3 in the El Camino if I don't just rebuild the current engine when the time comes.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I'd stick with carbs. FI is for pansies.

I might do a carb'd LS3 in the El Camino if I don't just rebuild the current engine when the time comes.

But FI is so reliable and accurate. I mainly dislike the throttle response and limitations of throttle by wire.

[FoMoJo]

Yeah, an LS is just more manageable than a Coyote. If you've got a big Galaxy 500 or something, a Coyote would be fine. But if it's a Cobra kit, I'm gonna use an LS.

You could be the first to squeeze a Godzilla into a Cobra kit .

[FoMoJo]

Well, to be fair, if I wanted to do a Cobra replica or modified Ford product in general, I'd go for Ford's closest approximate of an LS/LT - a Windsor with modern stuffs - stroker crank, roller cam, FI. It's not as good a motor as the LS/LT, but it's pretty good and more than enough.

Lots of Windsor crate engines available for reasonable prices.  Stroker 347 is a great idea.

[FoMoJo]

I'd stick with carbs. FI is for pansies.

I might do a carb'd LS3 in the El Camino if I don't just rebuild the current engine when the time comes.

A brace of four duel throat Webers with short chrome velocity stacks would be perfect.

[FoMoJo]

Actually, power is king at the drag strip.

Since this is an all-new engine, aftermarket support for parts needed (hi-po heads, cams, etc.) is a long way off, if ever. If a variation of this motor gets rolled out to the Mustang, that would greatly speed the development of such parts.

We've had this discussion before.  Low end torque to get off the line.  This is why the 428 CJ cleaned up at the '68 Winternationals.  The 428 used the 406 block, biggest production bore, and 410 crank, longest production stroke in order to achieve a lot of low end grunt.  It was also a great stop light racer.

[GoCougs]

We've had this discussion before.  Low end torque to get off the line.  This is why the 428 CJ cleaned up at the '68 Winternationals.  The 428 used the 406 block, biggest production bore, and 410 crank, longest production stroke in order to achieve a lot of low end grunt.  It was also a great stop light racer.

Winning drag races starts by revving up against a high stall converter or clutch dump and holding the revs high and tight through the gears till the end - this means lots of RPM and lots of power, preferably in a light car and/or car with good weight transfer (Mopar B-body). This is why the solid-lifter (high revving) Chevy L-88, ZL-1 and LS-6 and the ginormous breathing Mopar 440-6 and 426 Hemi rule the Pure Stock Muscle Car class: https://www.psmcdr.com/all-time-lists.

The "torque monster" GM 400/455s or 429 CJs make only the rare appearance. Fun to cruise around town and to play around and the like, but they're winning few drag races, all else equal (factory stock vs. factory stock), vs. the solid lifter/high RPM or ginormous breathing big blocks of the era.