New WRX Info/Pics

Started by SJ_GTI, September 10, 2021, 09:25:39 AM

Laconian

It has a "the one remaining car in the Emerald Aisle" vibe
Kia EV6 GT-Line / MX-5 RF 6MT

Raza

Ugh, it's like they're trying to make these things as ugly as possible now.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
It's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Submariner

2010 G-550  //  2019 GLS-550

SJ_GTI

Watching a review of the new WRX w/ manual transmission now.

First thing that surprised me is it does have the bigger screen, so I guess the higher trim infotainment system is available on the non-GT models. Not much else to note though, drives about like the outgoing model by the sounds of things.

CaminoRacer

One thing I've noticed about the WRX and the new Civic Si - people complain when there aren't many improvements, but then talk about how cars from 10-20 years ago were the best. Which is it? I've learned to stop complaining about that - if Nissan wants to sell a brand new truck from 2005, then cool. I just wish I could get a brand new XJ Cherokee.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

r0tor

Well, the WRX hasn't ever been all that great
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 20, 2021, 09:21:18 AM
One thing I've noticed about the WRX and the new Civic Si - people complain when there aren't many improvements, but then talk about how cars from 10-20 years ago were the best. Which is it? I've learned to stop complaining about that - if Nissan wants to sell a brand new truck from 2005, then cool. I just wish I could get a brand new XJ Cherokee.

I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but I got a bridge to sell you.
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r0tor

2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

MX793

Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 20, 2021, 09:21:18 AM
One thing I've noticed about the WRX and the new Civic Si - people complain when there aren't many improvements, but then talk about how cars from 10-20 years ago were the best. Which is it? I've learned to stop complaining about that - if Nissan wants to sell a brand new truck from 2005, then cool. I just wish I could get a brand new XJ Cherokee.

Maybe the complaint is that cars from 20 years ago were better, and the newest WRX and CSi didn't have improvements over their immediate predecessors to make them more like the cars from 20 years.
Needs more Jiggawatts

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CaminoRacer

I don't think so. It's mainly complaints about HP not increasing and stuff like that. But we've seen that chasing numbers has killed most of what made BMW great
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

CaminoRacer

Quote from: r0tor on December 20, 2021, 08:02:14 PM
WTH is up with the black body cladding???

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a38561085/2022-subaru-wrx-drive/

I didn't have a problem with the black trim until I saw the rear bumper
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Raza

Quote from: r0tor on December 20, 2021, 08:02:14 PM
WTH is up with the black body cladding???

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a38561085/2022-subaru-wrx-drive/

Yikes. The Impreza really gets uglier with every generation, but this is really bad.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
It's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Rich

This seems like an Outback sedan now :huh:
2003 Mazda Miata 5MT; 2005 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport 4AT

Eye of the Tiger

They have always been ugly on the outside.
But a CVT WRX is ugly on the inside.
2008 TUNDRA (Truck Ultra-wideband Never-say-die Daddy Rottweiler Awesome)

Submariner

Quote from: Raza  on December 20, 2021, 11:49:05 PM
Yikes. The Impreza really gets uglier with every generation, but this is really bad.

2010 G-550  //  2019 GLS-550

MX793

I think Subie is looking for a reason to discontinue it.  They'll keep making it less appealing until people stop buying.
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2016 Ford Mustang GTPP / 2011 Toyota Rav4 Base AWD / 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ABS
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback / 2004 Mazda Mazda3s / 2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium / 2007 Suzuki GSF1250SA Bandit / 2006 VW Jetta 2.5

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: MX793 on December 21, 2021, 12:30:25 PM
I think Subie is looking for a reason to discontinue it.  They'll keep making it less appealing until people stop buying.

Look for the next WRX to be a crossover E-CVT hybrid with the STi version only having a larger battery pack.
2008 TUNDRA (Truck Ultra-wideband Never-say-die Daddy Rottweiler Awesome)

SJ_GTI

Quote from: MX793 on December 21, 2021, 12:30:25 PM
I think Subie is looking for a reason to discontinue it.  They'll keep making it less appealing until people stop buying.

They made some strange decisions with this model. The spent a bunch of money making it 2 inches wider than the impreza and giving it all new sheetmetal (doesn't share with any other models). All to make it look uglier? All they need to do is give the impreza some fender bulges, a hood scoop, and a wing. They overcomplicated the approach IMHO.

That being said all the reviews seem complimentary of how it drove. Not big changes but incremental improvements to the engine (peak power is similar, but less turbo lag and broader torque curve) and handling (mainly stiffer structure). Interior isn't perfect but they did keep physical buttons for common use items (biggest gripe I saw is they would have liked a button for the seat heaters as well).

MX793

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Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 20, 2021, 08:47:11 PM
I don't think so. It's mainly complaints about HP not increasing and stuff like that. But we've seen that chasing numbers has killed most of what made BMW great

I think a lot of us have been spoiled by the rapid evolution of automobiles that took place in the 90s and 00s.

In 1990, the CSi made 108 hp.  In 92, that jumped to 125 (16% increase).  The CSi took a 2 year hiatus in the late 90s and returned in 99 making 160 hp (28% increase).  In 2006, that increased again to 197 (23% increase).  Over 17 model years, power grew 82% (and 40% increase in torque).  Since then, over 16 model years, we got as high as 205 and then it slipped a little to 200 in the recent model.  Torque is up in those 16 year by 37%.  However, the increase in torque came at the expense of engine character that Sis were known for.  And while the chassis dynamics have improved, the difference between a 1990 and 2006 Si in handling is far larger than the difference between a 2006 and 2022.
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2016 Ford Mustang GTPP / 2011 Toyota Rav4 Base AWD / 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ABS
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback / 2004 Mazda Mazda3s / 2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium / 2007 Suzuki GSF1250SA Bandit / 2006 VW Jetta 2.5