http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unRvopGXCgA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edpccars%2Ecom%2Fcar%2Dvideos%2F07%2D17%2D07page%2DBugatti%2DVeyron%2Dvs%2DMercedes%2DSLR%2Ehtm
Complete ownage.
I guess that's what a 400HP advantage + AWD traction gives you
I watched another video on there where the Bugatti gave a Porsche Ruf CTR a headstart and still smokes it like it was standing still.
The Veyron is just a huge rocket ship from the future. There is no need to compare it to modern cars.
Quote from: NACar on July 17, 2007, 09:11:30 AM
The Veyron is just a huge rocket ship from the future. There is no need to compare it to modern cars.
How about ze 3st33m?
Quote from: M_power on July 17, 2007, 09:12:28 AM
How about ze 3st33m?
2e E$+33/\/\ is from outer space
Wow. :mask:
Quote from: M_power on July 17, 2007, 08:53:53 AM
I guess that's what a 400HP advantage + AWD traction gives you
I'm still trying to get this through my head. It's like racing an RS4 against me and my Kona. What'd they think would happen? :lol:
The SLR should have tried to cheat. No one could blame him.
cheat AND get whipped? :lol:
Quote from: M_power on July 17, 2007, 11:36:58 AM
cheat AND get whipped? :lol:
Maybe he could have thrown a bunch of nails in front of the Veyron before launch, or a baby.
Or do what I do when I'm having trouble winning a race in Forza: pull a pit manuevar on the guy next to me as soon as the light turns green. :lol:
I thought Veyrons ate babies... Don't they use baby oil to lubiracate all the turbos?
Quote from: NACar on July 17, 2007, 11:44:11 AM
I thought Veyrons ate babies... Don't they use baby oil to lubiracate all the turbos?
Synthetic babies, the real ones just don't last as long.
I'd still take the SLR, although the Veyron is pretty damn nice!
Quote from: Tave on July 17, 2007, 11:40:10 AM
Maybe he could have thrown a bunch of nails in front of the Veyron before launch, or a baby.
Or do what I do when I'm having trouble winning a race in Forza: pull a pit manuevar on the guy next to me as soon as the light turns green. :lol:
:lol: :lol:
I don't think it's a race, I thionk the SLR is only going 5 MPH. :confused: :lol:
Quote from: Submariner on July 17, 2007, 05:48:51 PM
I don't think it's a race, I thionk the SLR is only going 5 MPH. :confused: :lol:
I think it might be going a tad faster than 5 mph :P
Ed, i SWEAR you've shown me this vid before...anyways, what was the point of that? we all knew the veyron would have won...whatever happened to the Chrysler ME 412? ME 412 vs Veyron..now THATS something a tad bit more fair don't you think? :P
Completely destroyed that SLR... :confused:
There was a Veyron parked on the street where I work yesterday. Unfortunately, I didn't have my camera phone with me! I didn't love the paint scheme (black and royal blue). It looked ok, I wouldn't buy one, but it sure did attract a crowd.
The thing that really blew my mind is that this guy had the guts to parallel park it on Park Ave (I posted in a prior thread how awful the other drivers are at parking, I'd never parallel my car on this street as people hit each other all the time).
What ownage are you all talking about? Considering the Veyron has 400 more horsepower and 73 turbochargers, it wasn't that bad.
Quote from: Lebowski on July 18, 2007, 10:19:57 AM
There was a Veyron parked on the street where I work yesterday.? Unfortunately, I didn't have my camera phone with me!? I didn't love the paint scheme (black and royal blue).? It looked ok, I wouldn't buy one, but it sure did attract a crowd.
The thing that really blew my mind is that this guy had the guts to parallel park it on Park Ave (I posted in a prior thread how awful the other drivers are at parking, I'd never parallel my car on this street as people hit each other all the time).
I'd feel bad for the claims writer who would handle that fender bender.
I'm sure a 5 mile an hour impact could possibly result in a 5 figure repair bill.
Awesome...but really, did we expect anything else. How about a fair fight?
Quote from: goldenlover1101 on July 18, 2007, 06:05:09 PM
Awesome...but really, did we expect anything else. How about a fair fight?
What shall we race against the Veyron?
Quote from: M_power on July 18, 2007, 06:12:56 PM
What shall we race against the Veyron?
Saleen S7 TT Competion.
Quote from: JYODER240 on July 18, 2007, 08:20:02 PM
Saleen S7 TT Competion.
AWD vs RWD with that kind of power?
Quote from: M_power on July 18, 2007, 08:53:59 PM
AWD vs RWD with that kind of power?
I'd be willing to bet the Saleen could beat it to 200mph.
AWD doesn't have so many advantages once you're already rolling, so the S7 should compete well with it.
The Competition is like 1000hp and 3000lbs.
what about the new Caparo T1, or at l;east ferrai Enzo. From what I know, the SLR seems to be considered the worst of the super expensive sports cars. Not as fast and not as involving. Why not A Carrera GT or how about a Zonda. I think the S7 TT Comp. is the best competitor
Quote from: JYODER240 on July 18, 2007, 09:06:55 PM
The Competition is like 1000hp and 3000lbs.
And since the Veyron weighs like 50,000lbs, the power to weight ratio advantage is clearly with the Saleen.
ahem...chrysler ME 412? :P
Quote from: goldenlover1101 on July 18, 2007, 09:09:34 PM
what about the new Caparo T1, or at l;east ferrai Enzo. From what I know, the SLR seems to be considered the worst of the super expensive sports cars. Not as fast and not as involving. Why not A Carrera GT or how about a Zonda. I think the S7 TT Comp. is the best competitor
I think the Zonda R would fair pretty well :rockon:
Caparo, in concept, would outrun the Veyron since it's supposed to have twice the power to weight ratio, and the Zonda would also fare well.
I want to see the Veyron's lap times vs an SLR though...
Quote from: NomisR on July 18, 2007, 09:59:15 PM
I want to see the Veyron's lap times vs an SLR though...
I think it would absolutely thrash the horribly compromised SLR just about anywhere.
Every half-respectable Veyron review I've read stresses that the roadholding and handling are at least as impressive as the performance.
eg. http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests/doc.asp?c=47&i=16280
Quote from: Michael Estorol on July 19, 2007, 01:03:33 AM
I think it would absolutely thrash the horribly compromised SLR just about anywhere.
Every half-respectable Veyron review I've read stresses that the roadholding and handling are at least as impressive as the performance.
eg. http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests/doc.asp?c=47&i=16280
I doubt it.
I really wish Evo would get an Veyron on Bedford West. I'd love to see how it does against other supercars.
Most publications I've read say the Veyron handles very well for it's size and weight, not that it handles as welll as other supercars. Although tires that wide would provide a decent amount of outright grip.
Quote from: R-inge on July 18, 2007, 09:40:14 PM
Caparo, in concept, would outrun the Veyron since it's supposed to have twice the power to weight ratio, and the Zonda would also fare well.
It might not have the traction, though, and I have hard time seeing any car getting to 60 under the Veryon's 2.3 seconds. Granted, it can be done, I just find it unlikely.
Yeah, it's starting to bother me when people say "oh, geez, well it can go in a straight line, but it sucks in the turns"...when that's not true at all. That thing can handle damn well, I'm sure.
I want to see someone get a Veyron and just strip it down completely. Gutted interior, roll cage, racing seat, no radio or anything. No sound deadening.
THAT would be THE car to race.
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 19, 2007, 09:36:52 AM
Yeah, it's starting to bother me when people say "oh, geez, well it can go in a straight line, but it sucks in the turns"...when that's not true at all.? That thing can handle damn well, I'm sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tze6Ir2jNY
Quote from: JYODER240 on July 19, 2007, 09:33:29 AM
Most publications I've read say the Veyron handles very well for it's size and weight, not that it handles as welll as other supercars. Although tires that wide would provide a decent amount of outright grip.
Whereas most critics say that the SLR does not handle very well for it's size and weight, and it tends to lose track comparisons with comparable cars. We weren't talking about Veyron vs. McLaren Mercedes MP4.
Like most people, I used to be prejudiced against the Veyron. Styling had a lot to do with it, along with price, lack of real pedigree and apparent sledgehammer money-no-object engineering. I've changed my mind and have seen the light.
To quote Steve Sutcliffe from the link I posted :
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I was wrong about the Veyron first time round; I don?t mind admitting that now. It does have soul, it does have emotion, and it certainly isn?t short on personality. But the first time I drove it the roads were all wrong, and the Veyron?s character failed to emerge. Now I?ve driven it again and seen what it can do to a 997 GT3 RS over a difficult road, well, it?s hard to express how good a car I think the mighty Veyron is.
Better than a McLaren F1? Without a single shadow of a doubt. And it doesn?t get any better than that.
Quote from: JYODER240 on July 19, 2007, 09:33:29 AM
Most publications I've read say the Veyron handles very well for it's size and weight, not that it handles as welll as other supercars. Although tires that wide would provide a decent amount of outright grip.
For its size and weight is quite the qualifier.
Quote from: Michael Estorol on July 19, 2007, 09:53:22 AM
Whereas most critics say that the SLR does not handle very well for it's size and weight, and it tends to lose track comparisons with comparable cars.? We weren't talking about Veyron vs. McLaren Mercedes MP4.
Like most people, I used to be prejudiced against the Veyron. Styling had a lot to do with it, along with price, lack of real pedigree and apparent sledgehammer money-no-object engineering.? I've changed my mind and have seen the light.?
To quote Steve Sutcliffe from the link I posted :
He and Clarkson are the only ones.
Quote from: Submariner on July 19, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
It might not have the traction, though, and I have hard time seeing any car getting to 60 under the Veryon's 2.3 seconds.? Granted, it can be done, I just find it unlikely.
However, in the videos the cars do a rolling start, and traction isn't quite as much of an issue at that point.
I was working under that assumption. You're probably right, part of the Veyron's brutal acceleration from a dead stop is traction.
Quote from: R-inge on July 19, 2007, 12:57:25 PM
However, in the videos the cars do a rolling start, and traction isn't quite as much of an issue at that point.
I was working under that assumption. You're probably right, part of the Veyron's brutal acceleration from a dead stop is traction.
Without a doubt. That car would spin much of it's power away if it only had two drive wheels.
Quote from: R-inge on July 19, 2007, 12:57:25 PM
However, in the videos the cars do a rolling start, and traction isn't quite as much of an issue at that point.
I was working under that assumption. You're probably right, part of the Veyron's brutal acceleration from a dead stop is traction.
yeah it's a rolling start but with nearly 1000 hp, i'd think AWD still gives you a definite advantage unless you're already rolling at like 60 mph or something
I want to see a drag race against that SSC car...
Wheelspin at 190 mph into 6th gear FTW.
Quote from: Raghavan on July 19, 2007, 11:03:48 PM
I want to see a drag race against that SSC car...
Wheelspin at 190 mph into 6th gear FTW.
I can't imagine there's anything fun about wheelspin at 190.
Quote from: JYODER240 on July 19, 2007, 11:19:33 PM
I can't imagine there's anything fun about wheelspin at 190.
I can't imagine there's anything fun about any kind of spin at 190
Quote from: JYODER240 on July 19, 2007, 11:19:33 PM
I can't imagine there's anything fun about wheelspin at 190.
Still it has so much power, it could probably take on the Veyron.
Quote from: Raghavan on July 19, 2007, 11:43:18 PM
Still it has so much power, it could probably take on the Veyron.
but last time they tested it,
(http://files.samhart.net/humor/fail.jpg)
That was top speed, douche.
Quote from: Raghavan on July 19, 2007, 11:58:21 PM
That was top speed, douche.
shush you
(http://www.traffick.com/uploaded_images/brownie.slice-737720.jpg)
:evildude:
Quote from: M_power on July 20, 2007, 12:00:48 AM
shush you
(http://www.traffick.com/uploaded_images/brownie.slice-737720.jpg)
:evildude:
rag, he thinks you're chocolate cake...and he wants to eat you up! *munch nmunch!* :ohyeah:
Quote from: deesea on July 18, 2007, 09:27:49 PM
ahem...chrysler ME 412? :P
I think the Zonda R would fair pretty well :rockon:
R? You mean the F? :P I doubt the Zonda could touch the Veryon in a straight, but on a tight track I would imagine it would have a damn good shot.
And, BTW, the Zonda has it all over the Veryon. :rockon:
In Forza I can't do shit with my Zonda - the S7 keeps on whooping my ass. The only hope I have is driving like a bandit and forcing it off the track.
Quote from: Tave on July 20, 2007, 07:30:21 AM
In Forza I can't do shit with my Zonda - the S7 keeps on whooping my ass. The only hope I have is driving like a bandit and forcing it off the track.
:mask:
In GT4, I built a Zonda that broke 300mph.
Quote from: Tave on July 20, 2007, 07:30:21 AM
In Forza I can't do shit with my Zonda - the S7 keeps on whooping my ass. The only hope I have is driving like a bandit and forcing it off the track.
yeah the zonda is slow in forza. But the S7 ain't too fast either. Both can't be turbo-ed IIRC
My hot Lamborghini Diablo SV has owned all so far in Forza 2. :ohyeah:
I am not surprised that the Veyron owned the SLR in that video as nothing yet tested can match the Veyron short of a Lingenfelter Corvette 427 TT with drag slicks. Joe's Ford GT stands a very good chance too. If anyone hasn't heard about it: http://www.stage6motorsports.com/. Both are hyper tuners and not stock cars in any stretch of the imagination but they come to mind as uberfast cars that could match a Veyron in straight line speed.
The Saleen S7 TT Competition is intriguing. Can't wait to see the test numbers on that!
Quote from: deesea on July 20, 2007, 07:04:58 AM
rag, he thinks you're chocolate cake...and he wants to eat you up! *munch nmunch!* :ohyeah:
chocolate cake? It's called a brownie
Quote from: M_power on July 20, 2007, 10:50:57 AM
chocolate cake? It's called a brownie
That is CLEARLY chocolate cake! Note the icing on top. Rtard! :evildude:
Quote from: the_koof on July 20, 2007, 10:47:41 AM
My hot Lamborghini Diablo SV has owned all so far in Forza 2. :ohyeah:
I am not surprised that the Veyron owned the SLR in that video as nothing yet tested can match the Veyron short of a Lingenfelter Corvette 427 TT with drag slicks. Joe's Ford GT stands a very good chance too. If anyone hasn't heard about it: http://www.stage6motorsports.com/. Both are hyper tuners and not stock cars in any stretch of the imagination but they come to mind as uberfast cars that could match a Veyron in straight line speed.
The Saleen S7 TT Competition is intriguing. Can't wait to see the test numbers on that!
A race against an F1 would be intriguing, but It would almost be painful watching the Veryon take the early lead, then slowly pull away from then on.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 18, 2007, 10:37:16 AM
I'd feel bad for the claims writer who would handle that fender bender.
I'm sure a 5 mile an hour impact could possibly result in a 5 figure repair bill.
I'm pretty sure banging out and repainting a fender can't cost that much (unless its carbon fiber or made out of Blue Whale jawbone or something).
But I am sure that guy's monthly insurance bill is already in the five figure range.
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In GT4, I built a Zonda that broke 300mph.
Shit! Thats insane, IIRC the Zonda in GT4 has the shittiest brakes I've ever seen! But I insisted on going around the 'ring sub 7.5 minutes with the base Zonda....waste of 4 hours of my life...damn computers...
Quote from: deesea on July 20, 2007, 10:22:48 PM
Shit! Thats insane, IIRC the Zonda in GT4 has the shittiest brakes I've ever seen! But I insisted on going around the 'ring sub 7.5 minutes with the base Zonda....waste of 4 hours of my life...damn computers...
Which Zonda were you using? The standard car, or the S, or the 7.3?
300mph was tough to do on a car that can be tracked effectively. The Zonda was the car I chose because I was sure it could take about 1000bhp and nitrous, although I should have chosen a car that I could manipulate downforce more. The car basically had very tall 3, 4, 5, and 6 gears, a 100 shot of nitrous, racing tires, and a suspension slammed to the ground with super stiff springs, among other things. With that much power and gearing like that, it was tough to handle on a track.
The standard 300+bhp Zonda would make a good real track car, but I don't remember them having poor brakes.