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American V8 for me.

American.

No british V8's? Esprit, TVR's, etc anyone?

Stock or modified? Old or new? I can't pick one. All of the above.

Quote from: M_power on August 20, 2007, 12:00:27 PM
No british V8's? Esprit, TVR's, etc anyone?

They suck.  Vote on the one of these three.

OMG I just remembered, a TR8 with FLowmasters. Slow, but awesome sound. :praise:

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 20, 2007, 12:03:55 PM
They suck.  Vote on the one of these three.

:nono:  TVR V8's sound good. But choosing from one of the three...american

I just checked TVR's website and they only have V6s.

They're inline 6s I thought? TVR did previously sell V8s, but I  think they were actually hopped up Rover V8s.

The Vantage does sound real nice. I voted for the Germans, I prefer the pitch of, say, the RS4, over the deep rumble of the Americans (which can really fall off at higher rpms) or the wail of the Italians (which probably sound flaccid at lower rpms). What we need are some good sound clips.

I can't decide between German and Italian.

Quote from: TBR on August 20, 2007, 12:28:17 PM
They're inline 6s I thought? TVR did previously sell V8s, but I think they were actually hopped up Rover V8s.

The Vantage does sound real nice. I voted for the Germans, I prefer the pitch of, say, the RS4, over the deep rumble of the Americans (which can really fall off at higher rpms) or the wail of the Italians (which probably sound flaccid at lower rpms). What we need are some good sound clips.

Here's a great sound clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mVQLXUvJjNQ

After surfing Yout00b some time, while limiting myself to only the suggestions listed in parenthesis, I have chosen the F430.

Quote from: TBR on August 20, 2007, 12:28:17 PM
They're inline 6s I thought? TVR did previously sell V8s, but I? think they were actually hopped up Rover V8s.

The Vantage does sound real nice. I voted for the Germans, I prefer the pitch of, say, the RS4, over the deep rumble of the Americans (which can really fall off at higher rpms) or the wail of the Italians (which probably sound flaccid at lower rpms). What we need are some good sound clips.

I think that you're, probably, right.  Off the top of my head...I don't feel like looking it up...the Rover V8, I believe, was developed from the old (60s) Buick Skylark V8 that found it's way into a number of applications...including a boat engine.  It was also used in a number of racing applications.

I chose American V8.? Italian V8s sound nice but they don't sound like V8s.? The V8 in a Merc sounds okay as well, but not as nice as most American V8s.? Of course my favourite engine sound is a 289 HiPo with free-flow mufflers.

I love italian V8s, though there are different sounds from them. There are too many American V8 sounds to pick one as the definitive American V8, though the Ford 5.0 tends to have the best balance of rumble and ripping. Which is also why I like the sound of my BMW V8 when on the throttle. It sounds like a small block should, with a touch of small bore "rip"

Still, I voted for the Italians, for making some of the most delicious ear candy of anyone.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 20, 2007, 12:14:33 PM
I just checked TVR's website and they only have V6s.

Oh wait. They stopped putting V8s in their road cars in '03

Quote from: FoMoJo on August 20, 2007, 01:04:25 PM
I chose American V8.? Italian V8s sound nice but they don't sound like the old American V8s that I am accustomed to.? The V8 in a Merc sounds okay as well, but not as nice as most American V8s.? Of course my favourite engine sound is a 289 HiPo with free-flow mufflers.

Fixed? :ohyeah:

I like 'em, too, and you must know that one of my tertiary goals in life to own a 350 chevy-powered 914 Porsche, but I can't not love an F430 winding out every gear to 8,500 rpm.

Quote from: Raghavan on August 20, 2007, 12:44:55 PM
Here's a great sound clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mVQLXUvJjNQ

...or you could listen to a real V8.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1D8qwa2wfjM

And if there are two engine noises I am actually growing tired of, it's the American V8 (usually with Flowmasters, and usually on a pickup truck, so it doesn't even go very fast), and the Harleys with straight-pipes (also slow). Everybody and their brother is out here running the same basic thing, and I am sick of hearing it everywhere I go.

There really aren't enough ric30rs and young squid punks on sport bikes in these parts to balance out the number of redneck NASCAR fans with trucks, and well-off middle-aged men who want to look like bad-asses on Harleys.
The sound of some 4-bangers with farty-pipes would actually be refreshing right now. I should start a ric30r gang.

Quote from: giant_mtb on August 20, 2007, 01:35:18 PM
...or you could listen to a real V8.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1D8qwa2wfjM

If by "real" you mean unbalanced and inefficient, then no thanks, I'll take the Ferrari.  :evildude:

Quote from: NACar on August 20, 2007, 01:38:59 PM
And if there are two engine noises I am actually growing tired of, it's the American V8 (usually with Flowmasters, and usually on a pickup truck, so it doesn't even go very fast), and the Harleys with straight-pipes (also slow). Everybody and their brother is out here running the same basic thing, and I am sick of hearing it everywhere I go.

There really aren't enough ric30rs and young squid punks on sport bikes in these parts to balance out the number of redneck NASCAR fans with trucks, and well-off middle-aged men who want to look like bad-asses on Harleys.
The sound of some 4-bangers with farty-pipes would actually be refreshing right now. I should start a ric30r gang.

I agree, you hear the American V8 rumble everywhere and it just isn't as special.? The LS6 makes a great noise, but it can't compare to the amazing screams of the Ferrari V8's.? I heard a F430 roaring down the road and it just sounds like it's more special. So I voted Italian V8.?

Quote from: 565 on August 20, 2007, 02:01:58 PM
I agree, you hear the American V8 rumble everywhere and it just isn't as special.  The LS6 makes a great noise, but it can't compare to the amazing screams of the Ferrari V8's.  I heard a F430 roaring down the road and it just sounds like it's more special. So I voted Italian V8. 

That's because the only time you'll hear an Italian V8 is when it's in some sort of multi-hundred-thousand dollar car.  The beauty of the American V8 is that it's available for cheap.  Then again, that's not what this thread/vote is about. :lol:

The Italians do sound nice, but nothing compares to the sound of a cammed out American V8 that just sits there shaking the whole car at idle.

Italians - high-winding, flat-plane crank V8 for me...

Italian for me. I don't hate the American sound but I'm not a fan of it. That and American V8's are normally in American cars.

American, no question

Italian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOA6zij5mWM

American: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDWRWlMEjRg&mode=related&search=

British (should have been included): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DPXYS_1pRI

German: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0QIAad1TCY


1. Italian
2. British
3. German/American

The classic American V8 sound doesn't do much for me. There's nothing special or impressive about it. It sounds just like all the lifted trucks around here with exhausts. It's a bunch of loud noise. I prefer the high-reving rip of the Italians. It sounds almost frenic where the American V8 sounds lazy. In this case of the British sounds really good too. It's crude but doesn't sound lazy and it really lets loose up top. Most German V8s sound to tame IMO.

To date my all time favorite V8 sound is that of the SLR McClaren, but overall I would go with American.

Quote from: NACar on August 20, 2007, 12:04:36 PM
OMG I just remembered, a TR8 with FLowmasters. Slow, but awesome sound. :praise:

That V8 is a Buick/Rover engine.

I don't really think there's a single definitive "American V8" sound. Sure, there's the "common American V8 sound," which basically means "under-Mufflered small block with a relatively mild cam and way-too-heavy flywheel."

How many people think of the tunnel-port Fords that reved to 8000 RPM and loped like mad at anything under 3, or the short, staccato bursts of a full race cammed 426? That don't sound like no pick-em-up truck to me.

Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 20, 2007, 10:29:01 PM
That V8 is a Buick/Rover engine.

I don't really think there's a single definitive "American V8" sound. Sure, there's the "common American V8 sound," which basically means "under-Mufflered small block with a relatively mild cam and way-too-heavy flywheel."

How many people think of the tunnel-port Fords that reved to 8000 RPM and loped like mad at anything under 3, or the short, staccato bursts of a full race cammed 426? That don't sound like no pick-em-up truck to me.

If your point is that this thread is pointless, then your point is well taken.  :ohyeah:

Quote from: NACar on August 20, 2007, 10:30:20 PM
If your point is that this thread is pointless, then your point is well taken.? :ohyeah:

Close enough.

Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 20, 2007, 10:31:46 PM
Close enough.

Not that I don't mind talking about V8's all day, but picking a country that makes the best sounding one is a bit silly.

Anyhoo... I suppose if I was going to pick an actual good, classic "American V8" sound, it would be something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o4vpmc_v5E
and although it sounds good to me,  it doesn't sound a damn thing like this other American V8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WBCWqmUoAU
or this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQX3cOAbes
never mind Swedish V8's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0NalEgynKA

Those that don't like American V8s should find their nearest Vintage races and listen to the orignal Cobras, BOSS 302s and DZ 302 Camaros from the '60s and the early Can Am cars rip it up on the race track. Then open your minds a bit. if you still think pick up truck, then you need psychological help.

Pickups don't sound anything like the classic American V8 sound.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 21, 2007, 07:33:11 AM
Pickups don't sound anything like the classic American V8 sound.

:confused:

The GTO and Corvette both sound like a loud Suburban or Silverado

The Mustang GT sounds like a loud F150

Quote from: HotRodPilot on August 21, 2007, 07:52:53 AM
:confused:

The GTO and Corvette both sound like a loud Suburban or Silverado

The Mustang GT sounds like a loud F150

You need your hearing checked.

Of course, I can't wait to hear my Lexus 4 liter V8 throough a hot rod exhaust system when it gets put in the Comet...

(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cvetters3/engine1.jpg)

All indications are that it will sound halfway between an American and Italian V8.

I have always loved the wail of a Ferrari, but my all time favorite exhaust goes to the SLR.

I got a take a ride in one once, and my goodness it was astonishingly good. First, you have a smooth "rumble" anywhere from idle to 2000 RPM, then comes into play a slight supercharger whine.  Stab the throttle, and instantly the car surges forward, and the rumble explodes with it.  The only thing competing with the exhaust is the glorious supercharger whine that only sounds sweeter with each shift of the gearbox.  In a word, incredible.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2277529044417977479&q=SLR+vs.+599&total=4&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

It may be hard to hear the SLR, but in the second drag listen to that whine then a split second later the low rumble, that's the SLR.  It really sounds that amazing. 

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 21, 2007, 08:03:54 AM
You need your hearing checked.

The Corvette and GTO  both make the blub-blub-blub sound at idle that the GM V8 trucks do :huh:

They sound different at full throttle and higher RPM, but that could just be because of the exhaust :mask:

When I rode in the LS1 GTO it sounded like a truck from the inside

Quote from: ChrisV on August 21, 2007, 08:12:46 AM
Of course, I can't wait to hear my Lexus 4 liter V8 throough a hot rod exhaust system when it gets put in the Comet...

(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cvetters3/engine1.jpg)

All indications are that it will sound halfway between an American and Italian V8.

If I remember correctly, that makes 250 at the crank right?  That's a nice engine you got.  I never remember the exhaust sound of my parent's LS, of course, even if I tired to listen it would have been far too muted for me to get anything out of it.  :lol:

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 21, 2007, 08:03:54 AM
You need your hearing checked.

These sounds very similar to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_kjKXNxL_c&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dksY9mZ10wU

I cannot explain the appeal of the American V8. From the deceptively commanding 1953 Cadillac V8 that gently strokes you from head to toe and sends uncontrollable shivers throughout your entire body, to the immediacy and fury of a 427ci Corvette, with all its thumping, merciless glory - there is nothing that can compare. Not even the frenetic scream of an Italian V8; not even the crafted bellow of a German V8 - the American V8 has no equal.

Quote from: omicron on August 21, 2007, 08:33:02 AM
I cannot explain the appeal of the American V8. From the deceptively commanding 1953 Cadillac V8 that gently strokes you from head to toe and sends uncontrollable shivers throughout your entire body, to the immediacy and fury of a 427ci Corvette, with all its thumping, merciless glory - there is nothing that can compare. Not even the frenetic scream of an Italian V8; not even the crafted bellow of a German V8 - the American V8 has no equal.

:rockon:

Quote from: Submariner on August 21, 2007, 08:16:00 AM
If I remember correctly, that makes 250 at the crank right?  That's a nice engine you got.  I never remember the exhaust sound of my parent's LS, of course, even if I tired to listen it would have been far too muted for me to get anything out of it.  :lol:

Yup, 250 or so in stock form, but with exhaust and megasquirt, could get up to 300 at the crank. More than enough for the 2500 lb Comet, however. And unlike the stock LS or SC, it won't be over mufflered.

Quote from: ChrisV on August 21, 2007, 08:49:58 AM
Yup, 250 or so in stock form, but with exhaust and megasquirt, could get up to 300 at the crank. More than enough for the 2500 lb Comet, however. And unlike the stock LS or SC, it won't be over mufflered.

Good to hear.  But why did you chose a Lexus V8.  It seems like you could get more power from smaller (lighter?) sources.

Quote from: Submariner on August 21, 2007, 08:57:41 AM
Good to hear.  But why did you chose a Lexus V8.  It seems like you could get more power from smaller (lighter?) sources.

I could BOLT in a Ford 302/5.0, as it has a 260 cid small block Ford in there now, stock. I could spend a ton on a Chevy motor (and really hear it from the Ford fans), or I could drop in something different and cool, just to freak people out. I don't need more power, as it's not a race car, but a custom cruiser. So cool and different wins out. It's a TINY engine (smaller than a small block Chevy, and only barely wider than a small block Ford, while being lighter than either) that looks really exotic once the plastic covers come off...

(http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2738764d.jpg)

I think the Lexus V8 is a unique choice. good luck on the car, Chris. Can't wait for it to be done. :ohyeah:

OMG @ this 5.0 http://youtube.com/watch?v=180Lacb9pKU

I would've picked British V8's from TVR or Aston but I'm going to go with Italian.

Well, i like all of these: but my favorite is Aerican.  To me, nothing compares to my dad's '68 427 vette (hence the name) but i also really do like this one.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7157860358089713525&q=corvette+zo6+sound&total=2&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Although many say it "raunchy" or "loud", it one of my favs.

quite possibly the best mustang exhaust i've ever heard. (maybe it's the sheer loudness of the exhaust, but i want it.)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X8U5jXJmwzc

The SLP Loudmouth is muffler-less.  It's very loud and obnoxious.  I like it...but I don't love it.  I love the Magnaflow Magnapack system though.

Mustangs have always had a sound that is unique to them. You need to have the right ear for it, but its there.

Right from the beginning, up to the 5.0s, and eventualy 4.6's (even with all their different head configs) although sound different next to each other, all have the "mustang sound"

If I'm sitting in my back yard and a mustang drives by I can always identify it as a mustang, and not an old pickup, or anything else. I can even tell the difference between a 5.0, 2V 4.6, and 3V 4.6.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 21, 2007, 08:03:54 AM
You need your hearing checked.

I remember my father's reaction to the Z06.

"Sounds like a tractor..."

When my girlfriend went for a ride in it for the first time, she was looking all over the dash for a button to turn off the noise.  She also thought for the longest time that the engine was in the back because the noise seemed to be coming from behind.

When I think of what a V8 sounds like, a nice "rumble" comes to mind, or a loud, growling, "angry as hell" sound at WOT. Therefore, I chose the American V8. One of the things I miss most about my GT is driving down a narrow street and listening to the burbling sound of the engine echo off the walls.  :cry:

I love the sound of a Ferrari V8; the scream at high-rpm is devilish, but it's not the sound that springs to mind when I think of a V8. To be honest they remind me more of what Satan's Own Four-cylinder would sound like. They're high-pitched.

European V8s are too muted, too quiet, as they're usually found in luxury cars. The best ones, like the ones I've heard on AMGs, sound a hell of a lot like American V8s, so that counts them out for being unoriginal. Haven't heard what the new M3 sounds like, that might be cool.

And Japanese V8s are typically found in quiet luxury cars and muted sport-utes and pick-ups too, so they aren't really contenders. Have no idea what the Lexus F cars or whatever letter their high-perf division is called sounds like.

Side note: seriously, why'd they go with "F"? Is there a letter in the English language that can be abused and mocked more easily than "F"?

I was just driving back home like 30minutes ago and I was behind a mustang gt (previous model) and god damn did that thing sound good! I know for a fact it was not stock cause I never heard that type of growl come from a GT before, but the exhaust looked stock to me. Either that or he got a really clean looking aftermarket exhaust kit that just fit REALLY well with that bumper.

'Murrican.

Or tuned 'murrican V8, like this Aussie one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWK3P1YSqug

:rockon:

So, do you want ice cream, ice cream, or ice cream?

I'll take ice cream.

Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=10737.msg546102#msg546102 date=1187755968
So, do you want ice cream, ice cream, or ice cream?

I'll take ice cream.

But each ice cream is sitting on a different cone ;)

Quote from: 93JC on August 21, 2007, 09:43:51 PM
'Murrican.

Or tuned 'murrican V8, like this Aussie one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWK3P1YSqug

:rockon:

Taken in the Adelaide Hills, that. :praise:

I submit to you all, that if you took typical American V8 engine, like a Chevy 350, and put on a set of equal-length headers that paired up each cylinder with a the one that fires 180? opposite of it, thereby spacing all exhaust pulses equally, that the Chevy 350 would no longer sound like a Chevy 350, but more like that Ferrari that everyone says doesn't really sound like a V8. In addition having the smooth, almost 4-cylinder like rasp ofa Ferrari, it would show a large gain in power and efficiency. Did I already mention this? I can't remember. Anyhoo, y'all can take this poll and shove it.  :P

Quote from: NACar on August 20, 2007, 01:26:52 PM

QuoteI chose American V8.? Italian V8s sound nice but they don't sound like the old American V8s that I am accustomed to.? The V8 in a Merc sounds okay as well, but not as nice as most American V8s.? Of course my favourite engine sound is a 289 HiPo with free-flow mufflers.

Fixed? :ohyeah:

I like 'em, too, and you must know that one of my tertiary goals in life to own a 350 chevy-powered 914 Porsche, but I can't not love an F430 winding out every gear to 8,500 rpm.

That's a good point.? Any sound, as with music, becomes engrained during specific phases of our lives...usually during puberty when everything is quadraphonic and in technicolour.? As I mentioned, the urgent bark of a 289 HiPo under acceleration offset by an exquisite ripple of backdraft when the throttle plates snap closed on the 600 cfm holley is sweet, sweet music to me.? This is what I was driving during an adventurous time in my life.? Equally as sweet is the soft, pattering burble of an old flat-head V8.? This was the sound I grew up with.? Of course I love the urgent sound of a little Ferrari 308 under full thottle with the background slurp and hiss of a stack of Webers.? But it just doesn't create the same sensations for me.

Quote from: NACar on August 22, 2007, 11:25:44 AM
I submit to you all, that if you took typical American V8 engine, like a Chevy 350, and put on a set of equal-length headers that paired up each cylinder with a the one that fires 180? opposite of it, thereby spacing all exhaust pulses equally, that the Chevy 350 would no longer sound like a Chevy 350, but more like that Ferrari that everyone says doesn't really sound like a V8. In addition having the smooth, almost 4-cylinder like rasp ofa Ferrari, it would show a large gain in power and efficiency. Did I already mention this? I can't remember. Anyhoo, y'all can take this poll and shove it.? :P

It's been done a million times.  The little 4.2 Windsor small-block with its 'bundle of snakes' headers that dominated the Indy 500 for so many years is a good example.  They really didn't sound much at all like a production HiPo.

Quote from: FoMoJo on August 22, 2007, 12:09:01 PM
It's been done a million times.  The little 4.2 Windsor small-block with its 'bundle of snakes' headers that dominated the Indy 500 for so many years is a good example.  They really didn't sound much at all like a production HiPo.

I know, I just think that all of the die-hard "American" V8 fans should realize that they are actually drooling over the sound of inefficiency.  :P

Quote from: NACar on August 22, 2007, 01:15:00 PM
I know, I just think that all of the die-hard "American" V8 fans should realize that they are actually drooling over the sound of inefficiency.? :P

We do, Sunshine :huh:.  If you want the sound of power from a N/A V8 look no further than a contemporary F1 engine.  I love the sound, but it hurts my ears.  An altogether different experience.  From the first ear-splitting wail, even from a distance, it hits you right in the pit of the stomach.  It's an awesome sound that is, almost, preditory; as if it belongs in the paleontolic era.

Quote from: FoMoJo on August 22, 2007, 02:09:01 PM
We do, Sunshine :huh:.  If you want the sound of power from a N/A V8 look no further than a contemporary F1 engine.  I love the sound, but it hurts my ears.  An altogether different experience.  From the first ear-splitting wail, even from a distance, it hits you right in the pit of the stomach.  It's an awesome sound that is, almost, preditory; as if it belongs in the paleontolic era.

But don't you just love it when the sound of an engine is so awesome that it literally makes you sick!? That is what I am talking about!  :rockon:

Now this is a V8

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1745193252578484928

Quote from: JYODER240 on August 22, 2007, 03:08:44 PM
Now this is a V8

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1745193252578484928[/img]

It says in the comments thats a V10..dunno who's right but if its really a V10 thats quite comical.  :lol:

Quote from: Minpin on August 22, 2007, 03:23:33 PM
It says in the comments thats a V10..dunno who's right but if its really a V10 thats quite comical.? :lol:

Actually it might be. F1 just switched to V8s so it depends what year that car is. Either way the V10s and V8s sounds similar.

Those engines sound good....but only in a race car.  Give me a big displacement thumping V8 over small displacement "screamers" any day.

How does it sound good in a race car but not in a road car?

Quote from: JYODER240 on August 22, 2007, 03:39:14 PM
How does it sound good in a race car but not in a road car?

Could you honestly listen to a tiny V8 screaming at 14000 rpm on a daily commute?  It's a pitch that gets tiring awfully fast.  About the length of a race is all I can handle.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 22, 2007, 04:01:27 PM
Could you honestly listen to a tiny V8 screaming at 14000 rpm on a daily commute?  It's a pitch that gets tiring awfully fast.  About the length of a race is all I can handle.

Big-o-American V8's have mufflers for that very reason.

I couldn't listen to the rumble of a domestic V8 because the sound would become just as annoying. I'd have to invest in one incredible sound system to drown it out.
Some of these cars sound like big boats putting around the ocean.

Wow. the narrowminded insulting of things outside people's comfort range in this thread boggles the mind. And here I though t we had a board of enthusiasts, not flamers.

I'm severely dissappointed in a lot of you.

It's good to have favorites, it's bad to be insulting pricks about things that aren't your favorites.

Quote from: ChrisV on August 23, 2007, 05:46:01 AM
Wow. the narrowminded insulting of things outside people's comfort range in this thread boggles the mind. And here I though t we had a board of enthusiasts, not flamers.

I'm severely dissappointed in a lot of you.

It's good to have favorites, it's bad to be insulting pricks about things that aren't your favorites.

Japanese V8's made by a certain company owned by Toyota shoehorned into small cars are rubbish.  Get over it.  :rolleyes:

I hope you're not talking about me Chris, I admitted in this thread that I like Italian V8s, I just love the rumble of an American V8 more. 

As much as it pains me to say this. I agree with Clarkson on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdqu8GsA6i0

Quote from: JYODER240 on August 23, 2007, 09:45:59 AM
As much as it pains me to say this. I agree with Clarkson on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdqu8GsA6i0

The F430 certainly sounds great, but that 390GT was just orgasmic.

Nothing will ever replace the sound of the old 427 Super Cobra Jet engines.  Best sounding engine ever.  Game over.

Quote from: hounddog on August 23, 2007, 01:29:07 PM
Nothing will ever replace the sound of the old 427 Super Cobra Jet engines.  Best sounding engine ever.  Game over.

(http://www.scaleautoworks.com/993engine3.jpg)

Quote from: NACar on August 22, 2007, 02:13:39 PM
But don't you just love it when the sound of an engine is so awesome that it literally makes you sick!? That is what I am talking about!? :rockon:

As I was saying, different (engine) sounds create different sensations...for me at least.? I take pleasure in the sound of most engines, not so much in loud 4 or I6 buzz buckets, but any V8 and V12 that I can hear, I appreciate...but some sound better than others.? For me, it's a high-compression small-block with a lopey cam and free-flow exhaust.

Last night was the local Chicken'n'Rib 'appreciation' cruise.? They had 1,000+ cars, mostly '60s muscle...just about all of them hot-rodded...and a good selection of restored, antiques, rods, rat rods, led sleds and a few exotics...even some Beetles :confused:.? There was a couple Vipers and even a Lamborghini Murci?lago.? When the shows over, we all stand at the exit and watch and listen to them roar off into the distance.? It was a good night to compare exhaust notes.? I loved the sound of them all but, still, the small-block HiPo has a sweeter note to me...except for the little deuce coupe with a 'built' flathead I never saw before.? It had 3 (about) inch-and-a-half straight pipes on each side from each exhaust port.? It didn't sound like a flathead, but it sure sounded nice :ohyeah:!

I really like the sound of anything that explodes and makes power. While some people are disgusted by the sound of a riced out Honda with a fart-can, I enjoy it. The only thing that disgusts me is the attitute the p0ser n00b that is likely behind the wheel. I like the sound of my bike's 500cc parallel twin with gutted mufflers. Some people might compare it to the sound of a lawnmower, but I like lawnmowers. My lawnmower has a straight pipe. I'd put a straight pipe on anything and like it. The only reason I don't is so I don't go completely deaf, but mostly so it doesn't bother other people. I love the sound of all V8's, but mostly the fast ones. Aside from the contruction of the engine, I think a big part of how "good" an engine sounds has to do with how strained it is under acceleration. You can have a 250hp V8 in a 6000lb truck, and it might sound good, but it would sound much better if it was in a 2000lb car. Like the school bus I used to ride back in middle school. That sucker was running big-block Chevy V8, and a suprisingly evil sounding exhaust exiting out the side just behind the driver (I liked sitting there with the window open). I guess the school department was too strapped for cash to afford real mufflers, anyway, except in low gear, it didn't really sound super great under acceleration beacuse it was attached to a giant bus (it was still cool, though).

The only thing I can add to this is that the exhaust notes that I like seem to be the one that just happen- the ones that are the result of tuning for power and the exhaust note is actually just a byproduct of other intentions.

Harley for instance has put a lot of work into making their bikes sound good- but none of the stock modern Harleys sound near as good as an old straight piped Triumph Bonneville to me.

Then there's the Z4 with that silly resonant chamber on it just to pipe sound into the cabin. Not a bad effect overall, but compared to an E30 M3 its a whole lot of blehh.

Now here is an American V8 that sounds good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNnSs_oN704

Sound? AMERICAN ftw ftw ftw.

Quote from: TheIntrepid on August 23, 2007, 06:56:26 PM
Sound? AMERICAN ftw ftw ftw.

You mean, you don't like the sound of a Camry?  :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh3bzypWgZI

Mine is barely audible, so no I don't like it. I like a good roar every now and then. The Trep sounds awesome when it's revving.

V8's suck  :lol:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRYYe0kLCto

Quote from: JYODER240 on August 22, 2007, 03:08:44 PM
Now this is a V8

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1745193252578484928

:lol:
That is awesome!  :mrcool:

Call me crazy, but I love the sound of the XJR 15.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPCNZ22hxko

:huh:

Crazy  :rolleyes:

Quote from: NACar on August 24, 2007, 10:03:51 AM
Crazy  :rolleyes:

Ricer.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Quote from: Submariner on August 24, 2007, 10:12:04 AM
Ricer.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

bimmer :rolleyes:

Quote from: Minpin on August 22, 2007, 03:23:33 PM
It says in the comments thats a V10..dunno who's right but if its really a V10 thats quite comical.? :lol:

would have been funnier if it played 'La Marseillese' instead of 'God Save The Queen.'

Funnily enough I was going to say that my favourite V8 sound was a Cosworth DFV; but I voted America anyway.

All I have to say to this question is....Aston Martin V8 Vantage.

Quote from: CMan on August 24, 2007, 07:27:34 PM
All I have to say to this question is....Aston Martin V8 Vantage.

Looks? One of the best. Sounds? Not even close, IMO.

Quote from: TheIntrepid on August 24, 2007, 08:05:05 PM
Looks? One of the best. Sounds? Not even close, IMO.

They sound amazing. Have you ever heard one? I agree, not the best, but it's up there.

Quote from: ro51092 on August 24, 2007, 08:12:04 PM
They sound amazing. Have you ever heard one? I agree, not the best, but it's up there.

They sound great, no doubt. There are much better sounding cars out there though.

Quote from: TheIntrepid on August 24, 2007, 08:13:40 PM
They sound great, no doubt. There are much better sounding cars out there though.

Thing is, at least to me, when you hear one old, large-block American V8's, you've heard them all. They sound absolutely awesome, but I love the sound of a German V8, or, better yet, an Italian V8.

Who cares, I'm in love with a certain air-cooled flat-6.

No V8 has ever sounded as good as a sub 2 liter turbocharged four.

:devil:

Quote from: TheIntrepid on August 24, 2007, 08:05:05 PM
Looks? One of the best. Sounds? Not even close, IMO.

They're one of my favorite sounding cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfPlc4pRheY&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DPXYS_1pRI

Quote from: TheIntrepid on August 24, 2007, 08:05:05 PM
Looks? One of the best. Sounds? Not even close, IMO.

Watch Top Gear Season 7 Episode 1.

They crowned it as the best sounding car in Episode 6. And it does sound fantastic.

http://sigmaprojects.org/media/play.cfm?i=2295

Quote from: CMan on August 24, 2007, 10:28:58 PM
Watch Top Gear Season 7 Episode 1.

They crowned it as the best sounding car in Episode 6. And it does sound fantastic.

http://sigmaprojects.org/media/play.cfm?i=2295

The Ascari in that episode sounds amazing.

Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=10737.msg548553#msg548553 date=1188012280
No V8 has ever sounded as good as a sub 2 liter turbocharged four.

:devil:

:rockon: - oh yes - my megane diesel FTW.

:praise:

Americans.  It seems like a tough call until you think about the sheer number of iconic American V8s.  From the 1914 Cadillac Type 51 L-head V8 to the 2008-and-counting Corvette Z06, it's an overwhelming legacy of glorious sounds.

Americans > Italians > Brits > Germans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Japanese

Quote from: Raza  on August 24, 2007, 09:24:40 PM
No V8 has ever sounded as good as a sub 2 liter turbocharged four.

:devil:

Better yet a two-stroke lawnmower engine.

Quote from: sandertheshark on August 26, 2007, 12:04:25 AM
Better yet a two-stroke lawnmower engine.

You know, I always did like using the gas leaf blower at my folks place.  There is something nice about having an engine strapped to your back.  Sometimes I find myself reving it just for fun while cleaning out their garage and drive way, drawing eye rolls and head shakes from the neighbors. 

My friend has both a Type R and a V-TEC sticker on his push lawnmower.

Awesome.  :ohyeah:

Quote from: FordSVT on August 27, 2007, 06:13:14 PM
My friend has both a Type R and a V-TEC sticker on his push lawnmower.

Awesome.  :ohyeah:

:rockon:

My mower only has an EX badge, but it's from a real Honda!  :praise:

Mines an all-American Briggs and Stratton. :praise:

Quote from: NACar on August 27, 2007, 06:14:55 PM
:rockon:

My mower only has an EX badge, but it's from a real Honda!? :praise:

I still have the Si badge I took off the rear of mine. I also have one 8.2 liter badge from a '72 Eldo...

You could upgrade!

Quote from: sandertheshark on August 27, 2007, 06:18:17 PM
Mines an all-American Briggs and Stratton. :praise:

Well, mine is too, but I had to order some parts from Ja-pan and now it runs 9's.

Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 27, 2007, 06:19:01 PM
I still have the Si badge I took off the rear of mine. I also have one 8.2 liter badge from a '72 Eldo...

You could upgrade!

OMG I wanted an Si badge so bad but I didn't have one!  :cry:

Quote from: NACar on August 27, 2007, 06:20:25 PM
Well, mine is too, but I had to order some parts from Ja-pan and now it runs 9's.

Son of a bitch.  The twin-turbo kit I ordered from Lingenfelter didn't fit at all.

Quote from: sandertheshark on August 27, 2007, 06:22:14 PM
Son of a bitch.  The twin-turbo kit I ordered from Lingenfelter didn't fit at all.

haha, n00b!  :evildude:

Enzo's sound nice.

Quote from: nickdrinkwater on August 28, 2007, 07:32:00 AM
Enzo's sound nice.

"Nice??"  :confused: :confused: :rolleyes:

You have apparently never heard an old Cobra powered by the Super Cobra Jet?

Quote from: hounddog on August 28, 2007, 12:44:57 PM
"Nice??"? :confused: :confused: :rolleyes:

You have apparently never heard an old Cobra powered by the Super Cobra Jet?

Apparently you haven't either since the Super Cobra Jet went into production in 1969 and Cobra production stopped in 1967.  The Cobra used a 260, then a 289, then a 390, and last but certainly not least, the 427 side oiler.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 28, 2007, 01:30:38 PM
Apparently you haven't either since the Super Cobra Jet went into production in 1969 and Cobra production stopped in 1967.? The Cobra used a 260, then a 289, then a 390, and last but certainly not least, the 427 side oiler.

Wrong song, Mary.? They started out with those engines, and it was the 289 which made the car legendary.? However, in 1965, Carroll Shelby wanted faster, much faster cars and introduced the 427 and eventually the 428.? You may wish to do a little more research. :lol:

edit= you are right, I should not have included the SCJ moniker to my post.? However, what I also should have included was the keyword, "aftermarket" or something thereof.  Thanks for keeping me from slacking, hemi.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 28, 2007, 01:30:38 PM
Apparently you haven't either since the Super Cobra Jet went into production in 1969 and Cobra production stopped in 1967.? The Cobra used a 260, then a 289, then a 390, and last but certainly not least, the 427 side oiler.

Lots of engines, including 428 SCJs, have found their way into AC Cobras, both new and old.

Quote from: GoCougs on August 28, 2007, 01:41:44 PM
Lots of engines, including 428 SCJs, have found their way into AC Cobras, both new and old.

However, my original post stands.  Nothing sounds as good as the 427 Super Cobra Jet.  Game over. 

Can you agree with that, Hemi?  :lol:

Quote from: hounddog on August 28, 2007, 01:38:03 PM
Wrong song, Mary.? They started out with those engines, and it was the 289 which made the car legendary.? However, in 1965, Carroll Shelby wanted faster, much faster cars and introduced the 427 and eventually the 428.? You may wish to do a little more research. :lol:

edit= you are right, I should not have included the SCJ moniker to my post.? However, what I also should have included was the keyword, "aftermarket" or something thereof.? Thanks for keeping me from slacking, hemi.

No problem.  I guess I don't have to tell you to do a little more research huh?  :lol:

Quote from: GoCougs on August 28, 2007, 01:41:44 PM
Lots of engines, including 428 SCJs, have found their way into AC Cobras, both new and old.

Shelby never put one in it.  If you have seen one then it's most likely a replica because most people have kept the originals...original.

Quote from: hounddog on August 28, 2007, 01:55:13 PM
However, my original post stands.? Nothing sounds as good as the 427 428 Super Cobra Jet.? Game over.?

Can you agree with that, Hemi?? :lol:

My favourite Cobra and my favourite sounding Cobra is the 427 side oiler.  The 428 or 429 Super Cobra Jet Mustangs were amazing.

Quote from: hounddog on August 28, 2007, 01:38:03 PM
Wrong song, Mary.? They started out with those engines, and it was the 289 which made the car legendary.? However, in 1965, Carroll Shelby wanted faster, much faster cars and introduced the 427 and eventually the 428.? You may wish to do a little more research. :lol:

edit= you are right, I should not have included the SCJ moniker to my post.? However, what I also should have included was the keyword, "aftermarket" or something thereof.? Thanks for keeping me from slacking, hemi.

Shelby never put a 428 in the Cobra and the SCJ, which was a 428 in 1969 and a 429 in 1971, never made it's way into an original Shelby Cobra either.  Maybe in the aftermarket like you said, but Shelby didn't put them in.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 28, 2007, 02:17:35 PM
Shelby never put one in it.? If you have seen one then it's most likely a replica because most people have kept the originals...original.

Houndog said nothing about originality, however.

Quote from: GoCougs on August 28, 2007, 02:59:51 PM
Houndog said nothing about originality, however.

I want to put an '03 Cobra motor into a Factory Five replica.  That or a 347 Stroker.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 28, 2007, 03:06:40 PM
I want to put an '03 Cobra motor into a Factory Five replica.? That or a 347 Stroker.

Sounds good - personally I'd opt for a 400+ ci Windsor stroker small block, with full roller valvetrain and MP fuel injection.

Quote from: GoCougs on August 28, 2007, 03:51:03 PM
Sounds good - personally I'd opt for a 400+ ci Windsor stroker small block, with full roller valvetrain and MP fuel injection.

That would be cool too.  Why the Windsor over the Cleveland?

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 28, 2007, 03:54:35 PM
That would be cool too.? Why the Windsor over the Cleveland?

I'm not much of a Ford guy, but from listening to my friends that are, the Windsor is the "better" of the two, especially for street modding purposes. I know there are a lot more after market parts (most importantly, heads). IIRC, it is the smaller block as well.

I would take the Windsor too, but I was just wondering why you would cause I know you aren't a Ford guy.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 28, 2007, 02:22:05 PM
Shelby never put a 428 in the Cobra and the SCJ, which was a 428 in 1969 and a 429 in 1971, never made it's way into an original Shelby Cobra either.  Maybe in the aftermarket like you said, but Shelby didn't put them in.

Wrong. Many of the 427 cars had 428s in them stock, at the end of the production run where costs were trying to be kept down, and Ford had a problem delivering the side-oiler 427s...

http://www.prc68.com/I/CSX3282.shtml

I seem to recall reading of 428s going into Mark III Cobras, too.

The lovely AC Frua had the 428, if I remember rightly.

Quote from: ChrisV on August 29, 2007, 09:32:32 AM
Wrong. Many of the 427 cars had 428s in them stock, at the end of the production run where costs were trying to be kept down, and Ford had a problem delivering the side-oiler 427s...

http://www.prc68.com/I/CSX3282.shtml

I'm confused because Shelby's own website doesn't list the 428 as one of the engines put in the Cobra.  It lists the 427 side oiler as the largest engine installed by Shelby.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 29, 2007, 09:46:08 AM
I'm confused because Shelby's own website doesn't list the 428 as one of the engines put in the Cobra.  It lists the 427 side oiler as the largest engine installed by Shelby.

yeah, but most written histories of them, including some of my '60s car magazines, make mention of it. And as you can see, that CSX had the 428. Most of the CSX3200-CSX3300 cars were 428 powered.

http://www.ritzsite.net/AC_Cobra/05_cobra.htm

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=597

Interesting.  I wonder why Shelby doesn't acknowledge this fact.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 29, 2007, 11:15:58 AM
Interesting.  I wonder why Shelby doesn't acknowledge this fact.

Shelby doesn't acknowledge a lot of things. ;) But the SAAC has them all recorded.

Italian V8's ftw for me. Breathtaking sound.

Second place would be Ford's 5L motor. Pretty distinct sounding and my favorite of all American 8 cyls.

Quote from: ChrisV on August 29, 2007, 11:19:24 AM
Shelby doesn't acknowledge a lot of things. ;) But the SAAC has them all recorded.

http://www.fordcobraengines.com/cobra_engine%20history.htm

Here is the real history of the Cobra and the 427 / 428 debate.?

Quote from: hounddog on August 29, 2007, 01:08:22 PM
http://www.fordcobraengines.com/cobra_engine%20history.htm

Here is the real history of the Cobra and the 427 / 428 debate.?

They build and ship 15 different engines for Cobra replicas.? That's so freaking awesome. :rockon:

EDIT:? I was thinking about it.? The 03 Cobra motor probably won't fit under the hood of a Cobra.? I would have to go with a 351W or 347 Stroker if I built one.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 29, 2007, 01:13:59 PM
They build and ship 15 different engines for Cobra replicas.? That's so freaking awesome. :rockon:

EDIT:? I was thinking about it.? The 03 Cobra motor probably won't fit under the hood of a Cobra.? I would have to go with a 351W or 347 Stroker if I built one.

I found that site awhile ago when I was considering building one.? And then I got the cost sheet.? :cry:

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 28, 2007, 03:54:35 PM
That would be cool too.? Why the Windsor over the Cleveland?

Mentioning the Cleveland reminds me of one the better sounding street applications for an American V8.? ?The 1971 Pantera.? It had a 351 Cleveland "Boss", I believe, mounted in the back with headers and a pretty short freeflow dual exhaust system.? I don't believe that there was a cross pipe.

(http://www.panteracars.com/10032006JH14.gif)

Back in the '70s, most mornings, I would hear one launch down a piece of road that ran by the apartment building I lived in at the time.? Beautiful, beautiful sound.? I was driving a '67 Mark II Sunbeam Tiger (with a 289 HiPo) at the time.? I couldn't really decide which sound I liked the best.

As for the Cleveland vs. the Windsor, the Cleveland 4V (carburettor) was a better performing street engine than any Windsor because of the heads they used...although they also used the same heads on the Boss 302 (Windsor).? Both were good engines but they only made the Cleveland small-block for a dozen years.? The Windsor has an incredible racing legacy that spans the most hallowed racetracks of the world, as well as an abundant aftermarket.

Quote from: HEMI666 on August 29, 2007, 09:46:08 AM
I'm confused because Shelby's own website doesn't list the 428 as one of the engines put in the Cobra.? It lists the 427 side oiler as the largest engine installed by Shelby.

I don't know that there's an actual displacement difference between the 427 and the 428- the number may have been changed only to differentiate between the two.

The Shelby book I have does not break out production from between the 427s and the 428s, but it does list both engines as being installed.

Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 30, 2007, 06:11:15 PM
I don't know that there's an actual displacement difference between the 427 and the 428- the number may have been changed only to differentiate between the two.

The Shelby book I have does not break out production from between the 427s and the 428s, but it does list both engines as being installed.

I believe (but am certainly open to being proved wrong) that the 427 is in fact 425 cubic inches, whereas the 428 is a true 428 cubic inches.

Why no Lexus 4.3 and 4.6 V8 option? And why no Lexus IS-F? :rolleyes:

Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 31, 2007, 07:05:56 AM
Why no Lexus 4.3 and 4.6 V8 option? And why no Lexus IS-F? :rolleyes:

The Lexus 4.3 actually sounds pretty good if you unhook the exhaust after the cats. The problem is the mufflers strangle any bit of noise out.

Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 31, 2007, 07:05:56 AM
Why no Lexus 4.3 and 4.6 V8 option? And why no Lexus IS-F? :rolleyes:

:lol:

And yea the choice is obvious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAkspWdG2AE

Quote from: JYODER240 on August 31, 2007, 05:07:07 PM
The Lexus 4.3 actually sounds pretty good if you unhook the exhaust after the cats. The problem is the mufflers strangle any bit of noise out.

Like I said before, I'm hoping that the Lexus 4.0 V8 will sound good with a hot rod style, no-cat exhaust on it AND a manual trans with a light flywheel for quick revs...