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(from Ford Press Release. Photos from seriouswheels.com) The 2008 Ford Harley-Davidson F-150 ? the most powerful factory F-Series truck ever ? races onto streets this fall to help the famed motorcycle maker and automaker kick off their 105th anniversary celebrations. The new, limited-edition truck is the third supercharged Ford Harley-Davidson F-150, following the best-selling 2002 and 2003 models that were part of more than 60,000 of the specialty trucks sold since 1999.
"Ford Harley-Davidson trucks have turned a shared passion for open roads into one of the most successful alliances in the industry," says Todd Eckert, Ford Truck and SUV communications manager. "The new 2008 Ford Harley-Davidson F-150 perfectly blends the flexibility and capability of F-Series trucks with the free spirit and raw power of Harley-Davidson motorcycles ? the principles that continue to drive both companies after 105 years."
This anniversary edition F-150 honors the humble beginnings of two American icons in 1903. The truck is available as SuperCrew 4x2 or all-wheel-drive models and features a choice of Black monochromatic exterior with custom stripe running along the beltline or an available Black and Vintage Copper two-tone exterior paint.
The purposeful exteriors are complemented by other features that signal the truck's connection to Harley-Davidson motorcycles. They include:
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Unique chrome billet grille and lower front valance.
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Body color bumper, mirror caps, ground effects, door and tailgate handles.
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Blacked-out headlamps with black bulb shield and dark tinted, smoked-out taillamps.
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Windshield with Bar & Shield logo dot pattern and Alliance logo.
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New 22-inch polished forged-aluminum wheels with the Bar & Shield logo on center caps.
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Forged aluminum "105th Anniversary Harley-Davidson F-150" Medallions on the fenders and tailgate.
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Chrome dual exhaust tips and tie-down hooks.
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Rubber bed mat with HARLEY-DAVIDSON Bar & Shield logo.
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The Vintage Copper and Black color scheme is carried onto the interior that features Black/Dusted Copper leather-trimmed front captain's chairs and rear bench seat with die-cast Bar & Shield logos embedded in the leather. Other interior features are:
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Two-tone leather shifter, console lid and steering wheel.
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High-gloss piano black floor console and center stack with the Bar & Shield logos, as well as
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chrome vent rings and unique instrument cluster.
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Serialized nickel plate displaying the production VIN and number.
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Brushed stainless steel pedals.
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The center stack, matching door-trim panels and lower part of the windshield feature numerous miniature Bar & Shield logos. In fact, the center stack panel was inspired by similar panels found on certain Harley-Davidson motorcycles.
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Powertrain options include a standard 300 horsepower 5.4-liter Triton V-8 or an available Saleen intercooled, supercharged, V-8 that pumps out an impressive 450 horsepower and 500 lbs.-ft. of torque. Along with the engine upgrades, the Saleen performance package, available on the 4x2 only, includes an available gauge pod with boost and air-charge temperature gauges.
(http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2008/2008-Ford-F-150-Harley-Davidson-Engine-1280x960.jpg)
The 2008 Ford Harley-Davidson F-150 truck is the tenth model to emerge from a Ford Harley-Davidson Alliance that began in 1999. The co-branding of the two storied companies has proven to be a successful formula with sales of Ford Harley-Davidson F-Series trucks totaling more than 60,000 units.
Nice truck. Take off all the Harley badges and I'd really want one.
Not that I have anything in particular about Harleys, but they're motorcycles, not pick-up trucks.
I wouldn't buy a Vespa scooter with Ferrari badges all over it either.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 05, 2007, 11:14:33 PM
Nice truck. Take off all the Harley badges and I'd really want one.
Will you settle for Steve Saleen's sense of style? The same engine and a similar interior will be in the 2008 S331 Sport Truck.
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 05, 2007, 11:27:46 PM
Will you settle for Steve Saleen's sense of style?? The same engine and a similar interior will be in the 2008 S331 Sport Truck.
Yes, I like the style, in fact I like everything about that truck except for the licensed cross-marketting BS.
Get me an AWD Taurus, fix the interior, fit this engine, and I'll be much happier.
Those are cool trucks, though I wish I could get a Harley-Davidson version without the Harley-Davidson part. Well, I probably could just buy aftermarket parts for it from Ford, but that's not the point. :huh: :mask:
They shouldn't call this thing a Harley-Davidson edition. I mean come on, the engine actually makes power :P
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 05, 2007, 11:14:33 PM
Nice truck. Take off all the Harley badges and I'd really want one.
Not that I have anything in particular about Harleys, but they're motorcycles, not pick-up trucks.
I wouldn't buy a Vespa scooter with Ferrari badges all over it either.
if the badges were smaller and more than mere decals that eventually peel off, i wouldn't mind them.
Quote from: Atomic on September 06, 2007, 05:43:21 PM
if the badges were smaller and more than mere decals that eventually peel off, i wouldn't mind them.
I would. A Harley davidson is a motorcycle an F-150 is a pick-up. Would you run around with Ford badges on your Harley?
It's all marketing.
My dad wants a Harley so bad. His Dakota has a Harley hitch cover and floor mats. He already has a nice Yamaha that probably rides better than a Harley, but I can't convince him to keep it.
Oh well...who am I to crush his lifelong dream? :P
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 06, 2007, 05:45:16 PM
I would. A Harley davidson is a motorcycle an F-150 is a pick-up. Would you run around with Ford badges on your Harley?
actually, no. however, i do like the eddie bauer versions of ford's suv's.
These things have always seemed kinda tacky to me.
That interior is really nice, I like that color combo.
Wow, I'd better go stage 2 quick, before a pickup kicks my ass. :confused:
Quote from: JYODER240 on September 06, 2007, 08:50:19 PM
These things have always seemed kinda tacky to me.
Yea, They ride like Vipers too. :devil:
I agree with the no Hawg crap all over them. I just don't get it.
I wounder how much they will overcharge for these things?
I'm not a Harley fan at all, but I like the truck otherwise. Cool looking interior, sporty (for a truck) exterior. I'd drive it if I were driving a truck.
They should offer this same vehicle without the Harley designation and give it the name of F-150 Lightning. Nobody would know the difference, and they could sell even more of 'em.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 06, 2007, 05:57:01 PM
It's all marketing.
My dad wants a Harley so bad. His Dakota has a Harley hitch cover and floor mats. He already has a nice Yamaha that probably rides better than a Harley, but I can't convince him to keep it.
Oh well...who am I to crush his lifelong dream? :P
All Harley owners care about is owning a Harley, no matter how loud, underpowered, or full of holes they are. I'd rather ride :ohyeah: Lol at your old man for having HD shit on his truck without actually having one!
All I have to say is...9 mpg.? That means it would cost $140 a week in gas for me.? Fuck that.
Quote from: R-inge on September 06, 2007, 09:05:41 PM
Wow, I'd better go stage 2 quick, before a pickup kicks my ass. :confused:
Man those big pickups are the ones you gotta watch out for!
The last dyno I did, there was a Dodge 2500 with dualies that did 950 ft-lbs and 450hp - at the wheels. When he left he did a SIX WHEEL burnout for like 50 feet.
They should give it the same HP/L as a Harley. Then it could crank out a ground pounding 260 HP. :rockon:
Quote from: Champ on September 07, 2007, 08:29:46 AM
Man those big pickups are the ones you gotta watch out for!
The last dyno I did, there was a Dodge 2500 with dualies that did 950 ft-lbs and 450hp - at the wheels.? When he left he did a SIX WHEEL burnout for like 50 feet.
The Duramax pwns me with a chip. :mask:
Quote from: R-inge on September 07, 2007, 12:05:58 PM
The Duramax pwns me with a chip. :mask:
I've had a run with a chipped (I'm guessing) 2500 HD. Twas fast. But not fas enough.
Quote from: Submariner on September 07, 2007, 01:37:57 PM
I've had a run with a chipped (I'm guessing) 2500 HD. Twas fast. But not fas enough.
:nono:
Just needs more turbo and more fuel. :praise:
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 07, 2007, 04:44:58 AM
They should offer this same vehicle without the Harley designation and give it the name of F-150 Lightning.? Nobody would know the difference, and they could sell even more of 'em.
They'd probably sell a lot less actually. There's a big segment of people that go gaga for anything with an HD logo on it: Boots and jackets are just the start: toys, baby bibs, coffee mugs, house paint, there's no end and apparently no shame in whatever the boys at H_D marketting will sell or license: and it
all sells.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 07, 2007, 04:34:22 PM
They'd probably sell a lot less actually. There's a big segment of people that go gaga for anything with an HD logo on it: Boots and jackets are just the start: toys, baby bibs, coffee mugs, house paint, there's no end and apparently no shame in whatever the boys at H_D marketting will sell or license: and it all sells.
It's just a shame that they have no competent
motorcycles to offer.? :frown:
Quote from: Cobra93 on September 07, 2007, 09:30:27 PM
It's just a shame that they have no competent motorcycles to offer.? :frown:
I would love my uncle's Harley. It's beautiful.
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 07, 2007, 11:12:15 PM
I would love my uncle's Harley.? It's beautiful.
They are beautiful, that's true.
Quote from: Submariner on September 07, 2007, 01:37:57 PM
I've had a run with a chipped (I'm guessing) 2500 HD.? Twas fast.? But not fas enough.
Meh, it's ok. When I'm pushing 280hp,320ft/lbs I won't worry too much about them.
Quote from: R-inge on September 08, 2007, 11:39:35 AM
Meh, it's ok. When I'm pushing 280hp,320ft/lbs I won't worry too much about them.
He got to 60 in (i'm guessing) 5 1/2 seconds, I can do it in 4. :devil:
Oh, and I have a question, my cousin just bought a WRX wagon (same as yours) and hes looking for save, relatively affordable means of horsepower. Any ideas.
BTW, he loves it. :praise:
Quote from: Submariner on September 08, 2007, 12:02:32 PM
He got to 60 in (i'm guessing) 5 1/2 seconds, I can do it in 4.? :devil:
Oh, and I have a question, my cousin just bought a WRX wagon (same as yours) and hes looking for save, relatively affordable means of horsepower.? Any ideas.
BTW, he loves it.? :praise:
I'll PM ya.
Quote from: Cobra93 on September 07, 2007, 09:30:27 PM
It's just a shame that they have no competent motorcycles to offer. :frown:
This from a man cowering behind the massive windshield of a Honda Goldwing.
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 08, 2007, 12:49:11 PM
This from a man cowering behind the massive windshield of a Honda Goldwing.
They also have cupholders, heated seats, air conditioning, cruise control, 10-speaker stereos, power mirrors, in dash navagation system, adjustable air suspension, antilock brakes, reverese gear, backup camera, parking assist, training wheels, all weather floor mats, etc...
Quote from: Pancor on September 07, 2007, 06:08:06 AM
All Harley owners care about is owning a Harley, no matter how loud, underpowered, or full of holes they are.? I'd rather ride :ohyeah:? ? ? ?Lol at your old man for having HD shit on his truck without actually having one!
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I don't understand how people drool over these overpriced,slow,and outdated turds. :huh:
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on September 08, 2007, 02:20:56 PM
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I don't understand how people drool over these overpriced,slow,and outdated turds. :huh:
They would be cool if they were cheaper than Japanese bikes. I'd probably have one, in that case. :huh:
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on September 08, 2007, 02:20:56 PM
I don't understand how people drool over these overpriced,slow,and outdated turds. :huh:
Ride one of these and say that again.
(http://www.bscon.de/images/pnw_vrvrscdx_int_c18_stw_w1280.jpg)
(http://www.moto.it/news/0409-intermot/Buell-CityX.jpg)
(http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/riw/FLSTC%20Heritage%20Softail%20Classic.jpg)
:huh:
Buells look really nice, but Harleys look like crap. :huh:
Quote from: Raghavan on September 08, 2007, 02:33:03 PM
Buells look really nice, but Harleys look like crap. :huh:
Buells and Nightrods are examples of what HD can do.
The rest of the HD bikes are examples of what HD buyers want. They love chrome, leather riveted seats, tassles, loud noises, going slow, and looking like they're Hells Angels. P0s3rs, the lot of them.
I wasn't even going to bring Buell in to it. Harleys are damn fine bikes.
I can see how kids would be unimpressed with a Soft Tail or a Fat Boy the same way they'd shrug at an old Chevelle but their new bikes especially that Night Rod I posted, are thoroughly modern and quite beautiful.
The Nightrod is OK. There's a chance that i would ride one of those. Other Harleys? not a chance.
Quote from: Raghavan on September 08, 2007, 02:42:43 PM
The Nightrod is OK. There's a chance that i would ride one of those. Other Harleys? not a chance.
Not a Sportster 1200?
(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2005models/2005-HarleyDavidson-XL1200r.jpg)
Not a V-Rod?
(http://www.vhvault.com/mr5150/Harley-Davidson-VROD-1024.jpg)
Not a Super Glide?
(http://www.mcnews.com.au/Wallpaper/HarleyDavidson/2007/dyna_superglide_custom.jpg)
I would dig a Sportster, with quiet pipes. They sound great.
The only gripe I have with Harleys is the stereotype that only gangbangers ride them. :huh:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on September 08, 2007, 07:20:16 PM
The only gripe I have with Harleys is the stereotype that only gangbangers ride them. :huh:
Gangbangers ride six-fou' Impalas, yo.
You mean biker gangs?
Yes, biker gangs.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on September 08, 2007, 07:28:58 PM
Yes, biker gangs.
That stereotype died a long time ago. Now the stereotypical Harley owner is a middle-aged dude who wished he was in a biker gang when he was growing up.
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 08, 2007, 07:39:34 PM
That stereotype died a long time ago. Now the stereotypical Harley owner is a middle-aged dude who wished he was in a biker gang when he was growing up.
Not in Canada yet. I will still move the fuck out of the left lane if a biker comes up on me. Actually I'd move out of the left lane if anyone was behind me.
If you can be in the right lane why would you ever be in the left lane?
Additionally, just because someone wears a leather jacket and has tatoos doesn't mean they are in a biker gang.
Quote from: TBR on September 08, 2007, 07:48:16 PM
If you can be in the right lane why would you ever be in the left lane?
Ehh, I know it's not a good habit but I like to drive in the left. Usually, I'm going much faster than everyone else so it's just a better place to be, otherwise I'd constantly be swinging back out into the left lane to pass.
I am courteous however and will move over if someone faster comes up behind me.
Changing lanes is so difficult. Really, unless traffic is heavy I see no reason to not stay right seeing as how you likely don't check your mirrors more than two or three times a minute.
Now, this is a nice bike...
(http://www.poorboychoppers.com/images/bike_chopper01.jpg)
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 08, 2007, 08:31:44 PM
Now, this is a nice bike...
(http://www.poorboychoppers.com/images/bike_chopper01.jpg)
If you have $30k and just like to ride in straight lines, sure :huh:
Quote from: NACar on September 08, 2007, 08:39:11 PM
If you have $30k and just like to ride in straight lines, sure :huh:
What's wrong with cruising? Crotch rockets aren't my thing...not with this gut anyway.
Quote from: TBR on September 08, 2007, 07:48:16 PM
If you can be in the right lane why would you ever be in the left lane?
Additionally, just because someone wears a leather jacket and has tatoos doesn't mean they are in a biker gang.
I was planning on getting a tattoo over the summer (didn't go through with it but might sometime this yr) and I have a leather jacket. But i don't have a bike. Can i still be in a biker gang? :lol:
Quote from: M_power on September 08, 2007, 11:56:51 PM
I was planning on getting a tattoo over the summer (didn't go through with it but might sometime this yr) and I have a leather jacket. But i don't have a bike. Can i still be in a biker gang? :lol:
Just hang out in a biker bar all the time and they'll assume yoiu're one oft them. Oh, and you;ll need facial hair too.
Quote from: M_power on September 08, 2007, 11:56:51 PM
I was planning on getting a tattoo over the summer (didn't go through with it but might sometime this yr) and I have a leather jacket. But i don't have a bike. Can i still be in a biker gang? :lol:
Sure. We have Bikes Blues and BBQ coming up beginning of next month. Attend that, get a shirt, and you're set. (Personally, I hate it. 300,000 people with Harleys (or bikes that look like them, I don't know the brands) descend on this place and make it hell for a week. I try to drive as little as possible, but the noise at night is irritating. This in no small part has led to my distaste for Harleys.)
Quote from: TheIntrepid on September 08, 2007, 07:20:16 PM
The only gripe I have with Harleys is the stereotype that only gangbangers ride them. :huh:
I'm sorry;
gangbangers?
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 08, 2007, 12:49:11 PM
This from a man cowering behind the massive windshield of a Honda Goldwing.
Trust me on this one. I'm not the cowering type. That would be the faux biker guys on the Hardly Ablesons. Like the ones I was constantly getting stuck behind while riding the Dragon.
But I do like the V-rods and Buells.
Quote from: Cobra93 on September 07, 2007, 09:30:27 PM
It's just a shame that they have no competent motorcycles to offer. :frown:
I've driven a co-worker's all-black V-rod and it was a pretty wicked bike, went like stink too.
(http://www.cmgonline.com/articles/CMG06/news/060907/BigP/HD_Nightrod_black_bg.jpg)
As for the HD F-150, it's certainly a sweet looking truck. I've always liked the interiors and exteriors of the HD trucks, but I'm like those who don't really care for the HD tie-in. Nothing against the company, I wouldn't want a Kawasaki edition Toyota Camry either.
They should offer the exact same truck minus the HD badges in some alternate colours. Make the HD version $500 more and give it different looking wheels or something.
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on September 08, 2007, 02:20:56 PM
I don't understand how people drool over these overpriced,slow,and outdated turds. :huh:
I think it's a very similar mentality to owning muscle cars.
I personally can't stand them. Most riders seem like uber posers, and the whole loud pipe thing embrasses the entire country.
On an objective product spec level, the Japanese bikes are vastly superior in most every regard, and they generally cost less, too.
I know nothing about bikes but I want this
(http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop-460x304/Ducati_1098_9w.jpg)
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on September 08, 2007, 02:20:56 PM
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I don't understand how people drool over these overpriced,slow,and outdated turds. :huh:
They don't have to be fast and high tech to be cool.
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 10, 2007, 12:34:41 PM
They don't have to be fast and high tech to be cool.
No they don't, and Harleys are cool. They are also more capable and more reliable than most of their detractors seem to think. They may not be on par with the Japs on a dollar-to-dollar basis, but as long as that H-D logo is on the side of the tank thay don't need to be either.
Now, you can say a vast majority of owners are either latte-swilling badge-whore wannabes or beer-swilling jingoistic slobs (or a combination of the two) and not get much of an argument from me: but I like the bikes.
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 08, 2007, 02:39:50 PM
I wasn't even going to bring Buell in to it. Harleys are damn fine bikes.
I can see how kids would be unimpressed with a Soft Tail or a Fat Boy the same way they'd shrug at an old Chevelle but their new bikes especially that Night Rod I posted, are thoroughly modern and quite beautiful.
Buells aren't really related to HD in any way besides the engines...
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 10, 2007, 04:37:14 PM
No they don't, and Harleys are cool. They are also more capable and more reliable than most of their detractors seem to think. They may not be on par with the Japs on a dollar-to-dollar basis, but as long as that H-D logo is on the side of the tank thay don't need to be either.
Now, you can say a vast majority of owners are either latte-swilling badge-whore wannabes or beer-swilling jingoistic slobs (or a combination of the two) and not get much of an argument from me: but I like the bikes.
Why can't people like Harleys, own Harleys, and ride Harleys and not be badge whores even if they are middle aged white collar people? You don't have to be a gang member to be genuine Harley fan.
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 10, 2007, 05:01:30 PM
Why can't people like Harleys, own Harleys, and ride Harleys and not be badge whores even if they are middle aged white collar people? You don't have to be a gang member to be genuine Harley fan.
Hey, I never once even mentioned morocycle clubs...
Anyways; yes, it is possible that people can do that. Quite simply though: most of them don't.
Quote from: Pancor on September 10, 2007, 04:41:22 PM
Buells aren't really related to HD in any way besides the engines...
That's why I wasn't going to bring them into it.
Quote from: JYODER240 on September 10, 2007, 11:33:11 AM
I know nothing about bikes but I want this
(http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop-460x304/Ducati_1098_9w.jpg)
I want one too. That's the Ferrari F430 of motorcycles.
Specs and better pics: http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/my2007/ModelPage.jhtml?family=Superbike&model=SBK1098-07
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 10, 2007, 05:14:18 PM
Hey, I never once even mentioned morocycle clubs...
Anyways; yes, it is possible that people can do that. Quite simply though: most of them don't.
That's such a gross generalization and I think it's completely unfair. I would say there are some that are like that. But you don't spend $20K on a Harley and have the really loud pipes if you don't truly love it. You'd be surprised at the people who are covered in tattoos, ride Harleys, and absolutely love it. I personally know a doctor and an oil exec who are like that. Personally I would love a Harley.
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 10, 2007, 08:01:16 PM
That's such a gross generalization and I think it's completely unfair. I would say there are some that are like that. But you don't spend $20K on a Harley and have the really loud pipes if you don't truly love it. You'd be surprised at the people who are covered in tattoos, ride Harleys, and absolutely love it. I personally know a doctor and an oil exec who are like that. Personally I would love a Harley.
I didn't say that they don't love it. I said they're wannabes.
"I'm a doctor/lawyer/accountant/executive but on the weekends I ride a Harley and wear shirts that show off my tattoos so everyone knows what a badass I am. Listen to my exhaust and know it."
Please.
(http://resource.harley-davidson.com/PR/MOT/2007/images/colors/pnw_spxl1200n_dom_c32_stw_w1024.jpg)
If I could get a substantial discount off the MSRP, I wouldn't mind rocking one of these. It is a refreshing departure from the typical chrome-OMG-SHINY-bikes that require so much time to keep them polished, that you may never have time to ride. I have ridden a 883 Sportster (2002-ish model) a few times, and despite the horrid vibrations and scary handling, it was still rather entertaining to crack the throttle open and scare the crap out of horses running in the fields along the sides of the highway. However, the only real improvement over my own 1977 Suzuki GS750 (which I rode in comparison back-to-back) was a bit smoother operation of the controls. Otherwise, it was slower, rougher, handled worse, less comfortable, and the brakes were equally bad.
As for the whole "style" that goes along with 99.9% of Harley riders, that's for retards. I would never use a brain bucket helmet (or even worse, just a bandana (or even worse, a completely shaved head)), assless chaps(wtf!), a $300 jacket with a giant Harley-Davidson logo on the back (so I can advertise how much I suck at spending money!?), or the gay cowboy riveted leather saddle bags with belt buckles for straps and faggoty tassels. As it stands, this particular bike goes for nearly $10,000, which is just insulting to anybody who really rides (and isn't a gajillionzillionmillionaire)
For the life of me, I can't understand why boring bikes are so much more popular than the fun ones, but I also can't understand why SUV's are so popular, so I guess I'm just an idiot.
/rant :P
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 10, 2007, 06:17:29 PM
I want one too. That's the Ferrari F430 of motorcycles.
Specs and better pics: http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/my2007/ModelPage.jhtml?family=Superbike&model=SBK1098-07
How much do they run?
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 10, 2007, 09:30:33 PM
$15k.
Thats not to bad. I'd much rather spend an extra 3-4K and have some different than your everyday GXR1000 or R1.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 10, 2007, 08:13:42 PM
I didn't say that they don't love it. I said they're wannabes.
"I'm a doctor/lawyer/accountant/executive but on the weekends I ride a Harley and wear shirts that show off my tattoos so everyone knows what a badass I am. Listen to my exhaust and know it."
Please.
As opposed to the huge number of "purists" who buy BMWs, Porsches, Lambos, Vettes and Ferraris? There are poseurs everywhere, no reason to hate on the brand for it. The majority of people who buy those cars do so because they're status symbols, just like the Harley is a status symbol. And in any case, what's worse: a middle aged man living out his dream by purchasing an overpriced Hog or some asshole 18 year old with a deathwish and his 145 hp GSX-R? That's just about the only people I see riding them if I want to start throwing anecdotes around.
And Harleys are nowheres near as unreliable as they were in the 70s and 80s, the Japanese cruisers forced them to get their shit together and from what I've heard from owners they're rather stout machines now. That friend of mine with the V-rod has put 45,000 kms on his bike and has had zero problems with it, not one. My best friend's brother and father both own big Yamaha cruisers. Nice bikes, seem to be reliable, nothing special. Probably paid $5,000 less than the equivalent Harley, that's good, but they also depreciate faster than Harleys, so that's a wash.
Comparisons to the Mustang are valid insofar as there are often certain design compromises made to satisfy their more rabid fans. If you don't "get it", you just don't, and you move on and buy something else.
Personally, I'd like a Ducati. As
sanders said above, they're the Ferrari of motorcycles. The Japanese bikes are common as dirt, I wouldn't want to see my bike everywhere. I like Buells too because they're also stylish and uncommon and different, that's what my best friend rides. Great touring bike, not a competitor to the supersports with the low-revving Harley motor, but a ton of torque and a nice upright sitting position. Really light too.
I need a bike.... need to get my bike license first! :lol:
^^^ Best post in this thread so far.
Quote from: FordSVT on September 10, 2007, 09:35:51 PM
As opposed to the huge number of "purists" who buy BMWs, Porsches, Lambos, Vettes and Ferraris? There are poseurs everywhere, no reason to hate on the brand for it.
Please re-read my posts; slowly if need be.
Now, didn't I say I like the bikes?
The wheels on Harley Davidsons are made five minutes up the road from here.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/TWOBIGHEDZ/Picture251.jpg)
My cousin rides the Hog in this picture and I've taken it out a few times.I still don't care for the bike.Some do look nice but I would never spend that kind of money for a bike so lacking in performance.Its like buying a Z06 with a 4 banger. :nono:
What's with the ear bursting sound of a Harley Davidson bike? I find if more annoying that just about any sound on the road. Even more so then a Civic with a buzz bomb muffler.
And is there any law against such an annoying thing like that?
Quote from: Onslaught on September 11, 2007, 06:02:21 AM
What's with the ear bursting sound of a Harley Davidson bike? I find if more annoying that just about any sound on the road. Even more so then a Civic with a buzz bomb muffler.
And is there any law against such an annoying thing like that?
There is, but no one enforces it. I got pulled over for the exhaust on my Mustang and while he was telling me why he pulled me over, about a dozen Harleys drove by and I couldn't hear him. After the bikes went by, he just looked at me and said, "Never mind. Have a nice day".
EDIT: Harleys aren't very loud from the factory. The ones that are ear splitting loud have aftermarket pipes on them and the guys riding them usually wear ear plugs. Stupid. I would keep a Harley's exhaust stock if I got one.
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 11, 2007, 08:05:06 AM
There is, but no one enforces it. I got pulled over for the exhaust on my Mustang and while he was telling me why he pulled me over, about a dozen Harleys drove by and I couldn't hear him. After the bikes went by, he just looked at me and said, "Never mind. Have a nice day".
:ohyeah:
Quote from: Onslaught on September 11, 2007, 06:02:21 AM
What's with the ear bursting sound of a Harley Davidson bike? I find if more annoying that just about any sound on the road. Even more so then a Civic with a buzz bomb muffler.
And is there any law against such an annoying thing like that?
There's a couple of guys that live near me that run straight pipes on their Harleys. I probably live 150ft from the road and you can't hear the TV in the back of the house when they ride by.
Quote from: Submariner on September 07, 2007, 01:37:57 PM
I've had a run with a chipped (I'm guessing) 2500 HD. Twas fast. But not fas enough.
Quote from: R-inge on September 08, 2007, 11:39:35 AM
Meh, it's ok. When I'm pushing 280hp,320ft/lbs I won't worry too much about them.
I know I am late with this reply but I'd rethink that if I were you.
The real diesel heads can make mind boggling power that would stomp out most sports cars. They don't just throw on a chip and exhaust and call it a day. Recently, there have been guys cresting the 1000 RWHP barrier. There is one 2500HD Duramax LLY that did 1098 RWHP (torque must be well over 1500 lb-ft) on just fuel and massive boost alone. No nitrous, no propane, no drugs at all. This guy also drives his truck daily.
Quote from: the_koof on September 11, 2007, 10:31:42 AM
I know I am late with this reply but I'd rethink that if I were you.
The real diesel heads can make mind boggling power that would stomp out most sports cars. They don't just throw on a chip and exhaust and call it a day. Recently, there have been guys cresting the 1000 RWHP barrier. There is one 2500HD Duramax LLY that did 1098 RWHP (torque must be well over 1500 lb-ft) on just fuel and massive boost alone. No nitrous, no propane, no drugs at all. This guy also drives his truck daily.
I know of Diesel pickups running around Calgary here with 800 RWHP. Unfortunately they all stick those 6" exhausts on them and they make the most obnoxious sound. It's horrible sound. There's no way it could even be remotely considered pleasing.
Quote from: the_koof on September 11, 2007, 10:31:42 AM
I know I am late with this reply but I'd rethink that if I were you.
The real diesel heads can make mind boggling power that would stomp out most sports cars. They don't just throw on a chip and exhaust and call it a day. Recently, there have been guys cresting the 1000 RWHP barrier. There is one 2500HD Duramax LLY that did 1098 RWHP (torque must be well over 1500 lb-ft) on just fuel and massive boost alone. No nitrous, no propane, no drugs at all. This guy also drives his truck daily.
Well, if he can get to 60 in under 4.0, then he has me beet.
Some fatter rear tires are in the cars future, along with some light modifications. Maybe it can get below 4 seconds.
Quote from: the_koof on September 11, 2007, 10:31:42 AM
I know I am late with this reply but I'd rethink that if I were you.
The real diesel heads can make mind boggling power that would stomp out most sports cars. They don't just throw on a chip and exhaust and call it a day. Recently, there have been guys cresting the 1000 RWHP barrier. There is one 2500HD Duramax LLY that did 1098 RWHP (torque must be well over 1500 lb-ft) on just fuel and massive boost alone. No nitrous, no propane, no drugs at all. This guy also drives his truck daily.
Just don't ask him to turn.
Never liked Harleys, or cruisers in general. Love Ducs though, and Aprilias.
Quote from: Submariner on September 11, 2007, 11:07:01 AM
Well, if he can get to 60 in under 4.0, then he has me beet.
Some fatter rear tires are in the cars future, along with some light modifications. Maybe it can get below 4 seconds.
Are you saying your car goes from 0-60 in 4 seconds?
Quote from: JYODER240 on September 11, 2007, 03:09:10 PM
Are you saying your car goes from 0-60 in 4 seconds?
E63.
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E63.
ah.
Sander, how much HP does that Ducati Superbike 1098 S have?
Because it is the hottest bike i've ever seen. :wub:
Quote from: Raghavan on September 11, 2007, 04:54:59 PM
Sander, how much HP does that Ducati Superbike 1098 S have?
Because it is the hottest bike i've ever seen. :wub:
160hp, 90lb-ft.
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 11, 2007, 07:22:09 PM
160hp, 90lb-ft.
That's really good!
Not as much as the Japanese 1000 cc bikes but who cares when it looks so awesome.
Quote from: Raghavan on September 11, 2007, 07:31:41 PM
That's really good!
Not as much as the Japanese 1000 cc bikes but who cares when it looks so awesome.
Also it's much lighter, handles better, and sounds better.
Like Ferrari vs. myriad faster but lesser supercars.
Quote from: sandertheshark on September 11, 2007, 07:34:57 PM
Also it's much lighter, handles better, and sounds better.
Like Ferrari vs. myriad faster but lesser supercars.
I love the one swingarm type design. They look awesome.
The front of the bike looks so nice too. Damn, i'm in love with that now.