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Title: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: SVT666 on September 14, 2007, 09:28:48 AM
The SSC Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo hit 257 mph and averaged 255 mph to set a new top speed record. (http://www.leftlanenews.com/ssc-sets-new-top-speed-record.html)
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Champ on September 14, 2007, 11:05:57 AM
Under 3 seconds 0-60 so that's good.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Panama_Chopster on September 14, 2007, 11:46:55 AM
Half the turbos and cylinders of the Veyron but I also guess it weighs the half of a Veyron too.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: the Teuton on September 14, 2007, 11:54:55 AM
Carroll Shelby had something to do with this car?  Awesome!

I hope it's also half the price of the Bugatti, too, even though I won't be able to afford one for a few more years.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: SVT666 on September 14, 2007, 03:24:02 PM
Quote from: the Teuton on September 14, 2007, 11:54:55 AM
Carroll Shelby had something to do with this car?  Awesome!
This is right at the bottom of SSC's webpage: Shelby Supercars, LLC is in no way affiliated with Carroll Shelby or Shelby North America.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: sandertheshark on September 14, 2007, 06:07:54 PM
Hells yeah.  Suck on that, Volkswagen.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: the Teuton on September 14, 2007, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 14, 2007, 03:24:02 PM
This is right at the bottom of SSC's webpage: Shelby Supercars, LLC is in no way affiliated with Carroll Shelby or Shelby North America.

Well, damn.  But I don't think that this car will struggle to make a profit as much as the Bugatti, which never will.  How can you over-engineer a car so much when another company can just brush you aside so quickly?
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: SVT666 on September 14, 2007, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: the Teuton on September 14, 2007, 07:21:46 PM
Well, damn.  But I don't think that this car will struggle to make a profit as much as the Bugatti, which never will.  How can you over-engineer a car so much when another company can just brush you aside so quickly?
To be fair the Ultimate Aero has been in development for 7 years.  Too bad it looks like a Diablo that's been beaten with a sledge hammer.

(http://www.xbgautomobile.ro/vipimg/5_3.jpg)
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Secret Chimp on September 15, 2007, 05:18:49 AM
I think I've driven on this highway they're talking about, I think it's just east of the Columbia river.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Raghavan on September 15, 2007, 08:36:36 AM
2750 lbs?? Holy crap!
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: JYODER240 on September 15, 2007, 08:38:46 AM
I'll just take this:

(http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/odds_and_ends/2006/09/saleens7comp.jpg)
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: TheIntrepid on September 15, 2007, 08:40:46 AM
I lust after the S7.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Submariner on September 15, 2007, 09:10:52 AM
Quote from: Submariner on September 15, 2007, 09:10:31 AM
(http://www.sportscarcup.com/expensive/pagani-zonda-f-roadster.jpg)

Seriously, who cares if It can't reach a speed none of you will be able to.  The Zonda Is just so exquisitely detailed and executed that you forget you can only do 0-60 in a pedestrian 3.4 seconds. 
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: sandertheshark on September 15, 2007, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on September 15, 2007, 08:38:46 AM
I'll just take this:

(http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/odds_and_ends/2006/09/saleens7comp.jpg)
Yeah, me too.  It'll probably be faster than the SSC anyways.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: BimmerM3 on September 17, 2007, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: the Teuton on September 14, 2007, 07:21:46 PM
Well, damn.  But I don't think that this car will struggle to make a profit as much as the Bugatti, which never will.  How can you over-engineer a car so much when another company can just brush you aside so quickly?

I somehow doubt that this car has the road manners of a Veyron. It may not matter to you, but it might to... say... Ralph Lauren.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on September 17, 2007, 11:25:45 PM
Hemi is right.It does look like a Diablo. :huh:
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: nickdrinkwater on September 18, 2007, 07:21:26 AM
I'd still rather have a Veyron.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 09:18:12 AM
you can go to Bonneville and see all kinds of ill thought out automobiles reaching those speeds... its one thing to hit the speed, its another for the car to actually be done in a safe manner and stable enough to be driveable by someone other then a test driver
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: SVT666 on September 18, 2007, 09:24:11 AM
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 09:18:12 AM
you can go to Bonneville and see all kinds of ill thought out automobiles reaching those speeds... its one thing to hit the speed, its another for the car to actually be done in a safe manner and stable enough to be driveable by someone other then a test driver
In the end, does it really matter?  Nope.  It's good for bragging rights and that's it, because there is no way any of these cars can reach those speeds on any public roads anywhere in the world, including the Autobahn.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 18, 2007, 09:24:11 AM
In the end, does it really matter?  Nope.  It's good for bragging rights and that's it, because there is no way any of these cars can reach those speeds on any public roads anywhere in the world, including the Autobahn.

so then whats the point of the whole thread?  who cares how fast it can go?
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: SVT666 on September 18, 2007, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 09:47:21 AM
so then whats the point of the whole thread?  who cares how fast it can go?
Obviously lots of people do.  The reason we do is because achieving that kind of speed is very impressive.  Does it matter if you can do it only with a pro driver or if any regular driver can do it (like in a Veyron)?  No, I don't think it does because those speeds are only achievable on a select few race tracks in the world anyway. 
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Champ on September 18, 2007, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 09:47:21 AM
so then whats the point of the whole thread?  who cares how fast it can go?
Man I'm glad more people don't think like you.

How will we ever advance without pushing the envelope?
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 10:45:38 AM
Well, if you want to look at it just for numbers Racing Beat got a FD RX7 up to 242mph in 1995 -shrug-

...if your not trying to acheive outright speed while being reasonable about it, its not very hard to do
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Champ on September 18, 2007, 12:44:27 PM
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 10:45:38 AM
Well, if you want to look at it just for numbers Racing Beat got a FD RX7 up to 242mph in 1995 -shrug-

...if your not trying to acheive outright speed while being reasonable about it, its not very hard to do
Why isn't this car reasonable?
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: Champ on September 18, 2007, 12:44:27 PM
Why isn't this car reasonable?

It has no where near the development time the Veyron has to actually make sure you don't die while attempting your run...

its no more special then Racing Beat flipping a 900hp 3 rotor engine in an RX7 over 10 years ago and going 242mph - or anyone else thats into top speed racing
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: SVT666 on September 18, 2007, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 12:53:24 PM
It has no where near the development time the Veyron has to actually make sure you don't die while attempting your run...
It took 7 years to develop this car.

Quoteits no more special then Racing Beat flipping a 900hp 3 rotor engine in an RX7 over 10 years ago and going 242mph - or anyone else thats into top speed racing
I think that's pretty impressive actually. :huh:  Is it only impressive if the car can carry you in complete silence with a glass of wine in your hand and steering with one hand?
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Champ on September 18, 2007, 02:06:33 PM
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 12:53:24 PM
It has no where near the development time the Veyron has to actually make sure you don't die while attempting your run...
Have either of these cars even been in any formal crash testing?  How do you know the Veryon will hold up better than this?
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: JYODER240 on September 18, 2007, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 18, 2007, 01:47:22 PM
It took 7 years to develop this car.
I think that's pretty impressive actually. :huh:  Is it only impressive if the car can carry you in complete silence with a glass of wine in your hand and steering with one hand?

7years isn't an especialy long time for a car like this.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: Tave on September 18, 2007, 03:01:46 PM
I thought it was supposed to hit 270-something.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: SVT666 on September 18, 2007, 03:04:13 PM
Quote from: Tave on September 18, 2007, 03:01:46 PM
I thought it was supposed to hit 270-something.
No, that's the Saleen S7 TT I believe.
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 04:21:52 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on September 18, 2007, 01:47:22 PM
It took 7 years to develop this car.

7 years of development from a tiny company is like a couple months at a company like VAG...
Title: Re: SSC Ultimate Aero hits 257 mph!!!!
Post by: SVT666 on September 18, 2007, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2007, 04:21:52 PM
7 years of development from a tiny company is like a couple months at a company like VAG...
You're right, it can't possibly be any good.