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Four decades after hitting the big screen and redefining the on-screen car chase, the Ford Mustang Bullitt returns to the streets in 2008, blending the best Mustang ever with the latest Ford Racing technology.
This modern classic delivers a balance of power and performance, thanks to special chassis and suspension tweaks as well as the 315 horsepower and 325 pound-feet of torque that Bullitt delivers through its 4.6-liter V-8 engine.
The 2008 Bullitt arrives in dealers early next year, with a starting MSRP of $31,075 (including destination and delivery) and limited production of 7,700 units for the U.S. and Canada.
Ford engineers modified the 2008 Mustang Bullitt's chassis and suspension to fine-tune handling and ensure the extra horsepower and torque from the 4.6-liter V-8 is put to good use. The live rear axle uses a unique 3.73:1 gear that helps launch the Bullitt with vigor.
Stock Mustang GT shocks and struts were swapped out for new units that allowed engineers to dial in a more aggressive driving dynamic while still maintaining the outstanding ride and balance of the base Mustang GT. A tower-to-tower pace designed specifically for the Bullitt lends additional torsional and lateral stiffness to the chassis for improved cornering and holds a unique serial number for each Bullitt.
The brakes also have been improved versus the base Mustang GT's. More aggressive front pads were developed specifically for Bullitt and improve fade resistance and pedal feel.
The 2008 Mustang Bullitt wears unique cast-aluminum Euroflange wheels, offering a modern twist on the original movie car. The Dark Argent Gray spokes feature a satin finish, while a pight-machined lip completes the look. Calipers are colored to match the wheel. The wheels are wrapped in the same P235/50ZR 18 BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDWS tires used on Mustangs at the Ford Racing High Performance Driving School at Miller Motorsports Park in Utah.
Engine calibration is designed to increase throttle response for a snappier acceleration feel. The redline has been boosted by 250 rpm to 6,500, with top-end speed bumped to 151 miles-per-hour. Gears are selected via a Tremac 5-speed manual transmission, and the shifter is topped with a polished aluminum shift ball designed specifically for the 2008 Bullitt.
The car features the first use of an open-element air filter in a factory-produced, fuel-injected Mustang. Inspired by Ford Racing, the intake is tucked neatly behind the driver side headlamp, mounted in an air box that was tooled up specifically for the Mustang. The hood liner was extensively modified to provide a full seal to the air box, ensuring that the engine is fed a steady diet of cooler air.
Engine performance is further enhanced through the use of an innovative adaptive spark ignition system, new for the 2008 Mustang.
The system can sense, within a few seconds, what type of fuel is being injected into the motor and adjusts the spark to provide maximum torque at any given speed - and as much as 10 pounds-feet more between 1,000 and 4,000 rpm.
Bullitt can run on either premium or regular fuel. Ford recommends premium fuel for optimum performance, but the adaptive spark ignition will adjust the spark to burn regular fuel without damaging the engine.
"With all the improvements we've made to the engine and the taller 3.73-to-1 rear gear, the Bullitt will plant you firmly in the driver's seat when you stand on the throttle. We've seen zero to 60 times drop by up to three tenths of a second," said Randle. "There's also plenty of power on tap at any speed. The car definitely feels lighter on its feet, and it is."
The custom-designed exhaust system continues Mustang's traditional use of a true dual-exhaust system with a new H-pipe specifically developed for Bullitt. The all-new mufflers, featuring larger 3.5-inch chrome tips (versus the 3-inch tips on the standard Mustang GT) are tuned to minimize backpressure, maximize horsepower and provide the Bullitt with its powerful exhaust note.
The new Bullitt wears a close match to the movie car's 1968 Highland Green paint, officially called Dark Highland Green. This distinctive color has only graced one other Mustang, the 2001 Mustang Bullitt. Gaffka assures Bullitt enthusiasts that the color will remain an exclusive Mustang Bullitt color. Non-purists can opt for only one other color - black.
The Mustang Bullitt uses the standard Mustang GT's front fascia. A new black-mesh grille is devoid of the standard chrome pony and is accented by a satin aluminum strip that represents the chrome grille surround on the 1968 car. The rear fascia also is shared with the standard Mustang GT and houses Bullitt's unique dual exhaust tips. Dark Argent Gray painted pake calipers closely match the wheel spokes, while staying true to the original.
The interior is pure Mustang Bullitt, understated and dressed in Charcoal Black leather and Satin metallic trim. The centerpiece of the interior is the hand-machined, aluminum swirl dash panel appliqu?.
"The machined appliqu? differentiates the Bullitt from any other Mustang in the line-up," said Gaffka. "It's also perfect for the Bullitt. The graphic presentation pings back the feel of the '60s while still staying true to the Mustang's modern interior design."
Satin aluminum bezels circle the air vents and gauges, complementing a satin aluminum shift ball that replaces the standard leather-wrapped shifter on the Mustang GT. The pedals wear race-inspired aluminum covers that further reinforce Bullitt's performance intentions.
The interior is graphically clean. The only identifying marks visible inside Bullitt are the logo and gun-sight graphic mounted in the center of the leather-wrapped steering wheel and the word "Bullitt" embossed into the metal sill plates.
The Dark Charcoal leather seats pick up the diamond perforation inserts from the base Mustang GT. The seats are patterned after those in the Shelby GT500 providing added lumbar and bolster support. The seats are constructed using the new soy-based foam developed by Ford and introduced on the 2008 Mustang. The soy foam, made up of 24 percent renewable content, is produced through a process that requires less energy and emits less CO2.
The Bullitt package enhances the Mustang GT Premium package with the following:
3.73:1 Limited Slip Rear Axle
Ford Racing Power Pack (cold air induction system)
High Performance Calipation
Performance Friction Carbon Metallic? front pake pads
Ford Racing Strut Tower pace
Sport -tuned suspension (shocks/springs/stabilizer bar)
Modified "H" Pipe
Dark Grey pake Calipers
18-inch Euro-Flange Bullitt Wheels with Charcoal Satin Finish
3.5-inch Packed Exhaust Tips
Distinct Upper Grille
Bullitt emblem on faux fuel cap
Black interior with upgraded steering wheel
Charcoal Black sport leather seats
Unique IP finish (hand-machined aluminum swirl)
Satin Aluminum interior accents (ball shifter/sill plate/pedal covers)
IMO that car looks awesome but for $6k over a base GT, you could do a lot better than 15 hp more.
You could probably get lots more HP and have the suspension upgrades too.
Sure you could take your base GT and probably get 400 hp and buy some 18s and stiffer shocks and sway bar for $6k and you're good to go.
But you wouldn't have the look and you wouldn't have the warranty and it probably wouldn't be as cohesive a car. It also won't hold its value. People forget that about the GT500 as well: sure you could build a faster car on paper for the money, but you've got no warranty, you don't have the look, the chances that the car will feel as "together" as something Ford makes is slim to none, and the depreciation on your car will make you ill. Modified cars rarely fetch a premium over their stock counterparts and sometimes they sell for less unless they're show-car quality. People assume they drive the crap out of it for one thing, and you've got no guarantee as to the quality of the original work in the first place.
I also question the validity of that 315 horsepower figure. I've seen stock GTs with nothing but an aggressive 93 octane tweak gain 15 rwhp on the dyno. Ford's own website says the power pack option for the GT normally gets 20 extra horsepower, not sure why it would only get 15 in this application especially since it's got the added H-pipe modifications and the more advanced spark system. Did they leave out the 90mm TB?
Here's a stock 05 automatic (extra 5% dt loss over the manual) with a 93 octane tweak, CAI and ECU kit that dynos almost 300 rwhp and runs high 12s. $750.
http://www.alternativeauto.com/misc/05_gt_dyno_update.html (http://www.alternativeauto.com/misc/05_gt_dyno_update.html)
Quote from: Raghavan on November 07, 2007, 09:18:08 AM
IMO that car looks awesome but for $6k over a base GT, you could do a lot better than 15 hp more.
You could probably get lots more HP and have the suspension upgrades too.
This car isn't about horsepower, it's about handling and improving on what's there already to make the car use everything it's already got to it's full potential. And by the way, if you read the article you would see that the 0-60 mph time has improved by 0.3 of a second. That means this pony will run 0-60 mph in 4.7 - 4.8 seconds. That's as fast as the original Viper.
I wasn't impressed by the specs ont his car when I first saw them, but after seeing what the improvements are as opposed to the hard numbers, I'm fairly impressed. I still wish the front end would have had a little more flare, but overall...I love it.
I just read on another site that the Ford engineers used a specially enhanced DVD to pinpoint the sound of the exhaust. Apparently it sounds just like the movie car.
Besides looking better, what is different about this from the Shelby GT?
How many more to come? It's almost as if a new Rustang comes out more often than Chinese babies!
Quote from: JYODER240 on November 07, 2007, 11:20:26 AM
Besides looking better, what is different about this from the Shelby GT?
It's faster for one.
The suspension setup is very different, ignition system is unique, different brakes, and different exhaust system. The ignition system is particularly cool:
"Bullitt can run on either premium or regular fuel. Ford recommends premium fuel for optimum performance, but the adaptive spark ignition will adjust the spark to burn regular fuel without damaging the engine."
This looks awesome. I don't usually like the look of Mustangs, but this one is very impressive looking. I think the simplicity of the styling is what makes it stand out from other Mustangs (along with the colour of course). The interior doesn't look too bad for a Mustang either (except for the heating controls/stereo, they could've tried a bit harder there).
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 07, 2007, 11:27:44 AM
How many more to come? It's almost as if a new Rustang comes out more often than Chinese babies!
As long as they keep coming, I will be happy.
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on November 07, 2007, 11:39:18 AM
This looks awesome. I don't usually like the look of Mustangs, but this one is very impressive looking. I think the simplicity of the styling is what makes it stand out from other Mustangs (along with the colour of course). The interior doesn't look too bad for a Mustang either (except for the heating controls/stereo, they could've tried a bit harder there).
They're not going to put a different stereo and HVAC controls in this car if they aren't doing it in the rest of the Mustangs.
Honestly though, what's wrong with the ones in this car?
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 07, 2007, 11:27:44 AM
How many more to come? It's almost as if a new Rustang comes out more often than Chinese babies!
The Intrepid: Well, IntrepiDude, some manufacturers make the same ol' car for every customer that comes through the dealership door. Mustang owners demand more than this and Ford tries to respond to their customer's needs. That's yet another reason the Mustang is still for sale after over forty-three consecutive years--
choices. Waaay back in April of 1964, the Mustang debuted with the longest options list in the history of the automobile--and the phrase "Flapjacks are selling like Mustangs!" was born.
And I see you must have taken to heart my little lecture on "market depth"--you've got it when you're selling Mustangs to every Chinese baby! Sharp of you :ohyeah: to pick up on where this will all lead...
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I gives a much better representation than the '01 did. The facia, wheels and stance are quite true to the original. Very nice.
What irks me is the 7700 north american unit production. I bet less than 15% of those actually make there way to Canada, meaining huge dealer markups. As a result, I'll never be able to own one.
The GT500 has better availability than that around here. When I went and checked one out a few weeks ago at Sask's only SVT dealer, they said the bidding starts at 80k. No, thank-you.
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I gives a much better representation than the '01 did. The facia, wheels and stance are quite true to the original. Very nice.
FoMoJo: Good to see you in this topic, FoMoJo! Yeah, this is one sharp Mustang--I even like the engine-turning on the dash now that I've seen it. And it
IS a better replica than the '01 Bullitts.
Thank God they didn't put louvers on the quarter-panel windows or stainless trim around all the windows as seen on that spy pic of a supposed Bullitt somewhere in northern California! :clap:
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I gives a much better representation than the '01 did. The facia, wheels and stance are quite true to the original. Very nice.
I would buy this. Seriously.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 11:44:11 AM
They're not going to put a different stereo and HVAC controls in this car if they aren't doing it in the rest of the Mustangs.
Honestly though, what's wrong with the ones in this car?
There's nothing wrong with them, they just look out of place.
Okay, I don't think I'll ever like green on a car, but this is a pretty kicking 'Stang. And, as I recall, it's also available in black.
I love it. I want it.
Quote from: Raza on November 07, 2007, 12:31:33 PM
Okay, I don't think I'll ever like green on a car, but this is a pretty kicking 'Stang. And, as I recall, it's also available in black.
I love it. I want it.
I don't like green on cars. One of my cars is green and it looks pretty clean, though.
Quote from: Ron From Regina on November 07, 2007, 12:07:30 PM
What irks me is the 7700 north american unit production. I bet less than 15% of those actually make there way to Canada, meaining huge dealer markups. As a result, I'll never be able to own one.
The GT500 has better availability than that around here. When I went and checked one out a few weeks ago at Sask's only SVT dealer, they said the bidding starts at 80k. No, thank-you.
Ron from Regina: RonDude, what if you bought it in the US and drove it back over the border?
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on November 07, 2007, 12:27:02 PM
There's nothing wrong with them, they just look out of place.
nickdrinkwater: NickDude, a number of aftermarket shops offer replacement accessory buttons/controls in stainless, brushed stainless, polished stainless, and the same treatments in aluminum. Some are exact replicas of the OEM knobs/buttons/whatever and others are so-called custom designs. They ain't cheap, but they won't set you back so much that you can't become nickdrinkliquor if you so decide. Likely less than one car payment...
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 07, 2007, 11:27:44 AM
How many more to come? It's almost as if a new Rustang comes out more often than Chinese babies!
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 07, 2007, 12:12:50 PM
I would buy this. Seriously.
Change of heart?
oh boy, paint and sticker package # 3,498,052 is available at a dealer near you :rolleyes:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 11:36:29 AM
"Bullitt can run on either premium or regular fuel. Ford recommends premium fuel for optimum performance, but the adaptive spark ignition will adjust the spark to burn regular fuel without damaging the engine."
its called knock retard... every car in the last decade has it
Quote from: Nethead on November 07, 2007, 01:05:23 PM
Ron from Regina: RonDude, what if you bought it in the US and drove it back over the border?
I thought of that, and maybe will think about it harder when I'm done paying for my GT next year. Traditionally though, importing US cars into Canada has been a pain in the ass. You need to have the car retro-fitted with standard metric guages, day running lights, and God knows what else just to get it certified and registered here. Also, there is some debate going on right now about what kind of warranty you can get on a new car that was purchased out of country.
Quote from: Ron From Regina on November 07, 2007, 01:26:14 PM
I thought of that, and maybe will think about it harder when I'm done paying for my GT next year. Traditionally though, importing US cars into Canada has been a pain in the ass. You need to have the car retro-fitted with standard metric guages, day running lights, and God knows what else just to get it certified and registered here. Also, there is some debate going on right now about what kind of warranty you can get on a new car that was purchased out of country.
Daytime running lights are mandatory in the US too so thats not a problem anymore. Importing a car into Canada is as simple as faxing the border crossing that you will be taking a copy of the registration 72 hours before you cross the border and then you drive it across. The guages do not have to be switched and all that's needed is an out of province safety inspection when you get it here.
Quote from: r0tor on November 07, 2007, 01:25:29 PM
its called knock retard... every car in the last decade has it
It's not the same thing. The Mustang engine is an 87 octane engine and feeding it premium has never provided a performance boost....until now. With this engine management software and ignition system, the Bullitt's computer will automatically adjust timing to take advantage of the higher octane and you end up with an increase in performance. Previously this was only capable by using a handheld tuner or getting a custom dyno tune.
Do you understand it now...retard?
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 01:39:29 PM
It's not the same thing. The Mustang engine is an 87 octane engine and feeding it premium has never provided a performance boost....until now. With this engine management software and ignition system, the Bullitt's computer will automatically adjust timing to take advantage of the higher octane and you end up with an increase in performance. Previously this was only capable by using a handheld tuner or getting a custom dyno tune.
Do you understand it now...retard?
oh please... my RX8 is "premium fuel required for best performance" as well as lots of other higher end cars for the last 10 years. They tune the car for 91 octane and then if you put 87 octane in it, the knock sensor detects it and retards the timing to save the engine - thus giving you slightly less performance.
Even a stock Mustang GT has this feature, its just the PCM is programmed to run on 87 octane do its a moot point unless you get bad gas.
The system in this Mustang is different. It works in the opposite manner. You know what? Forget it, you're a Mustang hater so you will continue to refuse to understand why this system is different.
incase you don't want to be a marketing pawn... this article from 2001 and notice what happens when you put 87 octane in a car calling for 91 octane - you can do it, you just don't get peak performance
identical to:
"Bullitt can run on either premium or regular fuel. Ford recommends premium fuel for optimum performance, but the adaptive spark ignition will adjust the spark to burn regular fuel without damaging the engine."
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/3604/regular-or-premium.html (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/3604/regular-or-premium.html)
Quote from: Nethead on November 07, 2007, 01:13:52 PM
nickdrinkwater:but they won't set you back so much that you can't become nickdrinkliquor if you so decide.
:lol:
Quote from: r0tor on November 07, 2007, 02:03:14 PM
incase you don't want to be a marketing pawn... this article from 2001 and notice what happens when you put 87 octane in a car calling for 91 octane - you can do it, you just don't get peak performance
identical to:
"Bullitt can run on either premium or regular fuel. Ford recommends premium fuel for optimum performance, but the adaptive spark ignition will adjust the spark to burn regular fuel without damaging the engine."
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/3604/regular-or-premium.html (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/3604/regular-or-premium.html)
Right from your article:
"But, noted Schiller, only a few vehicles calibrated for regular fuel can advance timing beyond their nominal ideal setting when burning premium." This is something the Bullitt
can do.
Quote from: Ron From Regina on November 07, 2007, 12:07:30 PM
The GT500 has better availability than that around here. When I went and checked one out a few weeks ago at Sask's only SVT dealer, they said the bidding starts at 80k. No, thank-you.
Too many idiots from Alberta with too much money poaching cars across the border? They had a red GT500 coupe for $61,000 and a blue convertible for $69,000 at the dealership in Fredericton, NB this summer. That's a lot more than MSRP but not 80K. They both sold within a couple of weeks, but the buyers could have come from anywhere.
Quote from: FordSVT on November 07, 2007, 03:17:41 PM
Too many idiots from Alberta with too much money poaching cars across the border? They had a red GT500 coupe for $61,000 and a blue convertible for $69,000 at the dealership in Fredericton, NB this summer. That's a lot more than MSRP but not 80K. They both sold within a couple of weeks, but the buyers could have come from anywhere.
Stupid Albertans with all their money. GT500's are still going for almost $90K in Calgary and Edmonton and when the car first came out they were selling for as much as $105,000.
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Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 01:33:13 PM
Daytime running lights are mandatory in the US too so thats not a problem anymore. Importing a car into Canada is as simple as faxing the border crossing that you will be taking a copy of the registration 72 hours before you cross the border and then you drive it across. The guages do not have to be switched and all that's needed is an out of province safety inspection when you get it here.
I don't believe that DRLs are required in the U.S. Permitted, but not required.
I really like it
Just wondering though, they couldn't put a 6 speed into this? Is this so it stays close to the original?
Quote from: Danish on November 07, 2007, 04:50:37 PM
I really like it
Just wondering though, they couldn't put a 6 speed into this? Is this so it stays close to the original?
No. The GT has a 5 speed so this got a 5 speed.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 07, 2007, 04:45:16 PM
I don't believe that DRLs are required in the U.S. Permitted, but not required.
I was positive that DRL's are on all new cars in the US.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 05:04:57 PM
I was positive that DRL's are on all new cars in the US.
Not true. Our A4 doesn't have DRL's.
oh.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 05:04:57 PM
I was positive that DRL's are on all new cars in the US.
If you care to read this (it's long and boring), it gives parameters for specs of DRL's, but makes no mention of them being required. I do know that several manufacturers equip DRLs but install a switch which can turn them off.
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/12feb20041500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2004/octqtr/49cfr571.108.htm
Edit: this copy is apparently from 2004, but I didn't find any updates on the NHTSA website.
Looks like a V6 Mustang.
This is the Mustang I'd most want to buy.
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Very cool. I want one.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 05:09:04 PM
oh.
I believe that DRLs are required for all cars, but not required to be activated. My E320 was said to have DRLs, but the default position was off. I could turn my DRLs off in the Passat by simply buying a Euro-spec light switch.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 05:04:57 PM
I was positive that DRL's are on all new cars in the US.
GM vehicles all have them, but none of the Hondas I know of do.
I don't know why.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 07, 2007, 11:18:50 PM
GM vehicles all have them, but none of the Hondas I know of do.
I don't know why.
I'm pretty sure Accord has had DRL's standard since 2006 and the Civic has had them standard since the current generation debuted (2006). I'm not sure about the rest of the line, though.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 02:32:11 PM
Right from your article:
"But, noted Schiller, only a few vehicles calibrated for regular fuel can advance timing beyond their nominal ideal setting when burning premium."
This is something the Bullitt can do.
The Bullitt is calibrated for premium and can detune itself for 87 octane just like the M3 and Saab did in the article 6 years ago...and every other turbo car or car calibrated for premium gas sold today does :rolleyes:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 07, 2007, 11:18:50 PM
GM vehicles all have them, but none of the Hondas I know of do.
I don't know why.
SoupDude is correct: DRLs are not mandatory in US Vehicle Codes. GM standardized them on all their cars (and maybe trucks, too) some years back, but the idea did not catch on (Mercury considered making them standard on all Mercs around 1970, but found no customers would ever buy a car just because it had DRLs and no one would pay extra for them). I believe I read somewhere a year or two ago that GM stopped equipping many (or all?) of their cars with DRLs for the same reason that Mercury never did equip their cars with DRLs.
How much more can they possibly cost than a no-DRL car?? Bulbs last for ages these days, I don't have to replace a headlight more than once every 3-4 years for $20.
And they do have a safety benefit.
Quote from: FordSVT on November 08, 2007, 08:21:25 AM
How much more can they possibly cost than a no-DRL car?? Bulbs last for ages these days, I don't have to replace a headlight more than once every 3-4 years for $20.
And they do have a safety benefit.
They apparently feel that if you want the safety benefit of the lights on, you can easily turn the lights on with the normal switch.
Quote from: ChrisV on November 08, 2007, 09:45:24 AM
They apparently feel that if you want the safety benefit of the lights on, you can easily turn the lights on with the normal switch.
It's not the same thing. DRL's are set at 60% of the brightness of low beams. I think they're great. When they first came out I thought they were kinda dumb, but I realized not too long afterward that it was just I that was dumb. I'm a big fan of DRL's.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 09:55:31 AM
It's not the same thing. DRL's are set at 60% of the brightness of low beams.
Some are, some are just the bright filament in the turn signals. Some are low beams that are on at half power, some are high beams on at half power. If you want to have them on to be seen, then flipping the headlight switch on will let you be seen, and if it's low beams it's not going to be blinding anyone in the daytime.
QuoteI think they're great. When they first came out I thought they were kinda dumb, but I realized not too long afterward that it was just I that was dumb. I'm a big fan of DRL's.
Except when you want to drive stealthy and blend in with traffic.
Quote from: ChrisV on November 08, 2007, 10:05:15 AM
Except when you want to drive stealthy and blend in with traffic.
When everyone has DRL's you do blend in.
They make passing on two lane highways safer since you can see cars from further away and beige, black, brown, dark blue, and green cars don't blend in with their surroundings.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 10:10:52 AM
When everyone has DRL's you do blend in.
They make passing on two lane highways safer since you can see cars from further away and beige, black, brown, dark blue, and green cars don't blend in with their surroundings.
Sometimes I want my black car to blend in. Especially if I'm exceeding the speed limit. :lol:
And if everyone has them on, you don't stand out anymore, which is the point on motorcycles. If everyone uses them, then you defeat the purpose of them both on cars and on motorcycles.
i just think DRL look ghey
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 09:55:31 AM
It's not the same thing. DRL's are set at 60% of the brightness of low beams. I think they're great. When they first came out I thought they were kinda dumb, but I realized not too long afterward that it was just I that was dumb. I'm a big fan of DRL's.
I felt the same way. In practice, I can see the advantage. When driving in the US, I always have to readjust to the traffic without DRL...just that much less noticeable at a glance. Motorcycles are even that much (much) more less noticeable at a glance, as we are less likely to notice them approaching unless we, deliberately, look. With DRL, the bright light catches your eye even peripherally.
in the US, motorcycles need to have their headlights on...
Quote from: ChrisV on November 08, 2007, 11:05:21 AM
Sometimes I want my black car to blend in. Especially if I'm exceeding the speed limit. :lol:
:lol: Although not a good thing when someone doesn't see you and they pull out to pass.
QuoteAnd if everyone has them on, you don't stand out anymore, which is the point on motorcycles. If everyone uses them, then you defeat the purpose of them both on cars and on motorcycles.
It's only to stand out from your surroundings, not other cars.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 12:31:32 PM
:lol: Although not a good thing when someone doesn't see you and they pull out to pass.
gee I wonder how I've survived without DRLS for 30 years. :lol:
Quote
It's only to stand out from your surroundings, not other cars.
Your surroundings usually ARE other cars. I've never had or seen a problem when you were the ONLY car in the area.
EXCEPT...
I feel differently about headlights and rainy days.
But again,
headlights do the job of making you stand out from your surroundings, and all you need is to turn them on to get the benefits
if you feel it's necessary. So you, in a non-DRL car can get the benefits YOU want when you want them by using that factory installed switch (that's been there on pretty much every car with headlights for a century), and I can have them off when I want them off and on when *I* want them on. Without having them mandated for ANYONE.
If you think that DRLs are better than headlights for separating you from your surroundings because they are only half as bright as headlights, then I can only wonder about what logic brought you to that point.
these pics from edmunds reminds me of a brief 6-month stint owning a 1986 V6 Mustang while I lived in south GA :rockon:
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/08.ford.mustang.bullitt/08.ford.mustang.bullitt.act.prf.1.500.jpg)
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/08.ford.mustang.bullitt/08.ford.mustang.bullitt.act.r34.1.500.jpg)
only I was able to do this with just one wheel: :cry:
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/08.ford.mustang.bullitt/08.ford.mustang.bullitt.rburn.500.jpg)
Quote from: ChrisV on November 08, 2007, 12:37:56 PM
If you think that DRLs are better than headlights for separating you from your surroundings because they are only half as bright as headlights, then I can only wonder about what logic brought you to that point.
:rolleyes:
Chris, you may be a good alert driver, but the vast majority of people are not. I also live in a part of the world where for half of the year it's dark or dawn on my way to work and dark or dusk on my way home. I remember the pre-DRL days where at least half the drivers wouldn't turn on their headlights at dawn or dusk and you couldn't see them.
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 08, 2007, 12:38:34 PM
these pics from edmunds reminds me of a brief 6-month stint owning a 1986 V6 Mustang while I lived in south GA :rockon:
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/08.ford.mustang.bullitt/08.ford.mustang.bullitt.act.prf.1.500.jpg)
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/08.ford.mustang.bullitt/08.ford.mustang.bullitt.act.r34.1.500.jpg)
only I was able to do this with just one wheel: :cry:
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/08.ford.mustang.bullitt/08.ford.mustang.bullitt.rburn.500.jpg)
:rockon:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 12:40:13 PM
:rolleyes:
Chris, you may be a good alert driver, but the vast majority of people are not.
And so you want ME to be mandated to do something because someone else can't? I do not like that socialist, lowest common denominator mindset. It's what gave us the double nickel and all sorts of laws that make sure stupid people stay stupid. If you're mandated to not think for yourself, you lose the ability to do so.
If YOU want to stand out from your surroundings, use the headlight switch. If you want OTHERS to stand out from their surroundings,
teach them to use the switch. If they don't, then YOU need to up your abilities as a driver and pay attention to your surroundings to SEE those people at dusk and at dawn (where I tend to drive on MY commute as well).
It's simple. If you want DRLS on your car, turn the switch on and leave it there. If I don't want them, I can leave the switch off until *I* want it on. It's called freedom of choice.
Quote from: ChrisV on November 08, 2007, 12:51:33 PM
And so you want ME to be mandated to do something because someone else can't? I do not like that socialist, lowest common denominator mindset. It's what gave us the double nickel and all sorts of laws that make sure stupid people stay stupid. If you're mandated to not think for yourself, you lose the ability to do so.
If YOU want to stand out from your surroundings, use the headlight switch. If you want OTHERS to stand out from their surroundings, teach them to use the switch. If they don't, then YOU need to up your abilities as a driver and pay attention to your surroundings to SEE those people at dusk and at dawn (where I tend to drive on MY commute as well).
It's simple. If you want DRLS on your car, turn the switch on and leave it there. If I don't want them, I can leave the switch off until *I* want it on. It's called freedom of choice.
I understand what you are saying Chris, however this is one of those things that has to do with public safety since there are millions of morons driving cars these days. I suppose you oppose seatbelt laws too.
Quote from: ChrisV on November 08, 2007, 12:51:33 PM
And so you want ME to be mandated to do something because someone else can't? I do not like that socialist, lowest common denominator mindset. It's what gave us the double nickel and all sorts of laws that make sure stupid people stay stupid. If you're mandated to not think for yourself, you lose the ability to do so.
If YOU want to stand out from your surroundings, use the headlight switch. If you want OTHERS to stand out from their surroundings, teach them to use the switch. If they don't, then YOU need to up your abilities as a driver and pay attention to your surroundings to SEE those people at dusk and at dawn (where I tend to drive on MY commute as well).
It's simple. If you want DRLS on your car, turn the switch on and leave it there. If I don't want them, I can leave the switch off until *I* want it on. It's called freedom of choice.
Are there seatbelt laws in the US?
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 08, 2007, 12:55:53 PM
Are there seatbelt laws in the US?
FoMoJo: Oh, yes--fines for anyone in your vehicle not wearing seatbelts while on public highways. I've worn seatbelts voluntarily since I got my first driver's permit. And that was so long ago the Driver's Education car was a '63 Chevy Biscayne four-door sedan with a three-on-the-tree, dual clutch pedals, and dual brake pedals. My fiancee at the time took Driver's Ed two years later and the cars were automatics--and may still be automatics to this day...
Quote from: Nethead on November 08, 2007, 01:55:57 PM
FoMoJo: Oh, yes--fines for anyone in your vehicle not wearing seatbelts while on public highways. I've worn seatbelts voluntarily since I got my first driver's permit. And that was so long ago the Driver's Education car was a '63 Chevy Biscayne four-door sedan with a three-on-the-tree, dual clutch pedals, and dual brake pedals. My fiancee at the time took Driver's Ed two years later and the cars were automatics--and may still be automatics to this day...
I wasn't sure. I imagine that there was a lot of the same sort of objection when those laws were introduced. Personally, I'm for safety laws. Statistically, seatbelts can save our lives. Statistically, so can DRLs...as well as someone elses.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 08, 2007, 12:55:53 PM
Are there seatbelt laws in the US?
Yes, all front seat passengers need a seatbelt at all times. Rear seat passengers can opt not to wear one once they are above a certain age. This age varies from state to state, I think. In New York state, it's either 16 or 18 (I can't remember, I always wear a seatbelt, and I require my passengers to do the same).
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 12:54:59 PM
I understand what you are saying Chris, however this is one of those things that has to do with public safety since there are millions of morons driving cars these days. I suppose you oppose seatbelt laws too.
Though I'd prefer not to have DRLs on my vehicle, I agree with your point, and wouldn't necessarily oppose such legislation. Like you said, lots of idiots on the road today, and I'm all for something which is going to give them the jump on seeing a potential hazard.
I always turn my lights on when it's raining, or any other time visibility is compromised.
Quote from: FordSVT on November 08, 2007, 08:21:25 AM
How much more can they possibly cost than a no-DRL car?? Bulbs last for ages these days, I don't have to replace a headlight more than once every 3-4 years for $20.
I take it you don't have SilverStars :lol:
If you can't see other cars because they don't have their headlights on then you're blind. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Raghavan on November 08, 2007, 04:26:33 PM
If you can't see other cars because they don't have their headlights on then you're blind. :rolleyes:
In certain weather conditions (ones that might not exist in California), visibility can be shit. Mid-morning (8 am or so), it's light out but there will still be a lot of fog around here. Without lights on, you may not see a car til it's 40 feet away. I'm far from blind too.
This is fairly common too, it happens a lot on my commute.
well, if its foggy outside the smart thing would be to have your lights on so you don't wail the guy pulling out of the sidestreet that doesn't see you because your driving in a fog bank with no lights on...
Quote from: r0tor on November 08, 2007, 05:36:25 PM
well, if its foggy outside the smart thing would be to have your lights on so you don't wail the guy pulling out of the sidestreet that doesn't see you because your driving in a fog bank with no lights on...
Like I said before, there are a lot of morons on the road these days who won't do that, and I don't feel like not seeing a car because he didn't turn his headlights on and getting killed for it.
Quote from: r0tor on November 08, 2007, 12:16:53 PM
in the US, motorcycles need to have their headlights on...
...at night. Most bikes I see ride with headlights off.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 08, 2007, 04:30:12 PM
In certain weather conditions (ones that might not exist in California), visibility can be shit. Mid-morning (8 am or so), it's light out but there will still be a lot of fog around here. Without lights on, you may not see a car til it's 40 feet away. I'm far from blind too.
This is fairly common too, it happens a lot on my commute.
When I had the E320 (DRLs off) I would turn my inside lights on in overcast conditions and at early dusk or dawn. That's when visibility is supposedly the worst.
Quote from: Raza on November 08, 2007, 05:54:38 PM
When I had the E320 (DRLs off) I would turn my inside lights on in overcast conditions and at early dusk or dawn. That's when visibility is supposedly the worst.
The interior light? What is that going to accomplish?
Quote from: The Pirate on November 08, 2007, 04:30:12 PM
In certain weather conditions (ones that might not exist in California), visibility can be shit. Mid-morning (8 am or so), it's light out but there will still be a lot of fog around here. Without lights on, you may not see a car til it's 40 feet away. I'm far from blind too.
Two days ago, at 830am, due to the fog out here, some guy in a tanker hit the Bay Bridge
It can get bad out here too :lol:
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 08, 2007, 12:55:53 PM
Are there seatbelt laws in the US?
Not at the national level. Most states require them, some do not.
Quote from: Raza on November 08, 2007, 05:53:32 PM
...at night. Most bikes I see ride with headlights off.
Then the owner has (illegally) modified the bike. Every motorcycle sold in the US since like 1975 has the headlight hardwired to the ignition. If the key is on, the light is on. This is mandated by federal safety regulations.
Quote from: Raza on November 07, 2007, 11:16:39 PM
I believe that DRLs are required for all cars, but not required to be activated. My E320 was said to have DRLs, but the default position was off. I could turn my DRLs off in the Passat by simply buying a Euro-spec light switch.
I disabled my DRLs.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 08, 2007, 06:07:15 PM
The interior light? What is that going to accomplish?
Oh, didn't explain that well enough. The E class had four lamps, two outer headlamps that are the main beams, and two inner lights that are smaller and used as daytime runners or singularly as parking lamps.
Quote from: MX793 on November 08, 2007, 06:24:50 PM
Then the owner has (illegally) modified the bike. Every motorcycle sold in the US since like 1975 has the headlight hardwired to the ignition. If the key is on, the light is on. This is mandated by federal safety regulations.
Really? I'll keep an eye out then; it always seems like I see bikes without the headlight on.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 08, 2007, 07:21:17 PM
I disabled my DRLs.
I'm pretty sure that's illegal in Ontario...
Quote from: 93JC on November 08, 2007, 07:33:06 PM
I'm pretty sure that's illegal in Ontario...
He also removed his front plate. He's sticking it to the man.
Quote from: Raza on November 08, 2007, 07:37:03 PM
He also removed his front plate. He's sticking it to the man.
Don't make me laugh like that raza: coffee and keyboards don't mix.
Quote from: Raza on November 08, 2007, 07:37:03 PM
He also removed his front plate. He's sticking it to the man.
WHOA.
Badass...
Quote from: 93JC on November 08, 2007, 07:33:06 PM
I'm pretty sure that's illegal in Ontario...
It is.
Quote from: Raza on November 08, 2007, 07:37:03 PM
He also removed his front plate. He's sticking it to the man.
For pictures. It was off for a total of an hour.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 08, 2007, 07:45:24 PM
It is.
For pictures. It was off for a total of an hour.
BADASS.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 08, 2007, 07:37:56 PM
Don't make me laugh like that raza: coffee and keyboards don't mix.
I remember the last time I made you spit coffee on your keyboard. The Dukes of Hazzard were involved.
At least it's a work keyboard, right?
Quote from: Raza on November 08, 2007, 07:49:54 PM
I remember the last time I made you spit coffee on your keyboard. The Dukes of Hazzard were involved.
At least it's a work keyboard, right?
Yes, and since I work nights all I do is wait for it to dry and then switch it with one of the keyboards in an empty cubicle.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 08, 2007, 07:50:55 PM
Yes, and since I work nights all I do is wait for it to dry and then switch it with one of the keyboards in an empty cubicle.
That's how to do it.
Lookin good :ohyeah:.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that the picture depicting the steering wheel on the first page is incorrect. That picture shows a normal GT steering wheel, the Bullitt will in fact have the GT500 steering wheel.
Quote from: LonghornTX on November 08, 2007, 10:44:17 PM
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that the picture depicting the steering wheel on the first page is incorrect. That picture shows a normal GT steering wheel, the Bullitt will in fact have the GT500 steering wheel.
They have different steering wheels?
Quote from: Raza on November 08, 2007, 11:13:50 PM
They have different steering wheels?
Yep.
Incorrect:
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Ford-Mustang_Bullitt_2008_photo_0a.jpg)
Correct:
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd21/IMBOCcom/imboc-08-sm-4.jpg?t=1194589476)
Quote from: Raghavan on November 08, 2007, 04:26:33 PM
If you can't see other cars because they don't have their headlights on then you're blind. :rolleyes:
True...if you're looking at them. Many people simply glance when approaching an intersection and will miss an approaching vehicle. There's a much better chance they will notice if the headlights are on. Of course, this is because of bad driving habits...but how many of them are out there.
2008 Mustang Bullitt jumping on the streets of San Francisco. (http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2007/news0157bullittjumps.php)
Text excerpts taken from www.corral.net
"First Drive - 2008 Mustang Bullitt"
"We spent two fantastic days behind the wheel of the Bullitt on the coast of California.
On the twisties the car is an absolute blast to drive! The added torque of the new calibration helps the car launch harder out of the turns. Fire the Bullitt out of the hole from a standstill and the car squats down and plants you into the seat all the way to the 6,500 RPM redline. A chirp from the tires as you bang second gear lets you know the extra horses under the hood are doing their job.
Brake performance was excellent and we did not experience any fade as we shattered the tranquility of the California woods tearing through the back roads. The scream of tortured tires and growl from the tuned exhaust's new low backpresure mufflers terrorized the woodland creatures ensuring that we did not see any wildlife on our run.
On the streets of San Francisco the modified suspension did an excellent job of absorbing road imperfections. To be fair though, we did notice a strange vibration after particularly large bumps, which could indicate that a Noise, Vibration, and Harshness (NVH) issue needs to be addressed before final production. This kind of thing is to be expected when driving a pre-production car though.
Usually increasing performance in the turns means a sacrifice to ride quality; however, Team Mustang has managed to find just the right balance with the 2008 Bullitt. Revised brake pads improve stopping distances and provide fade resistance under hard braking. A strut tower brace with the Bullitt logo, VIN, and the car's unique Bullitt build number are printed on the center of the brace. The rear of the car was lowered slightly to provide a more aggressive stance and new struts allowed engineers to add a more aggressive dampening rate for improved cornering abilities."
"The 2008 Bullitt Mustang is about more than just appearances - it is able to back up its aggressive look with horsepower and handling improvements. Ford Racing developed a new cold-air intake specifically for the car, which drops incoming air intake temperatures from 70-degrees Fahrenheit above ambient to a mere 17-degrees above ambient. Combined with a new octane-sensing performance engine calibration, the 2008 Bullitt Mustang boasts a bump in horsepower from 300 to 315 BHP and an increase to 325 lb./ft. of torque beyond the stock Mustang GT when the car is fed premium 91 octane fuel. Redline has been increased by an additional 250 RPM to 6,500 RPM. Top speed gets a boost as well to 151 MPH from 147 MPH."
"The engineers at Team Mustang used a special re-mastered DVD copy of the 1968 classic movie to provide inspiration for the car's sound. By tuning and modifying the H-Pipe they gave the car the authentic sound that will enable you to create your own Bullitt soundtrack wherever you go. The throaty sound is definitely an improvement over the stock Mustang GT."
"The new optional HID headlights add a great touch to the car, as well as providing a dramatic improvement in nighttime lighting abilities."
"With a base MSRP of $31,075 the 2008 Ford Mustang Bullitt package is an incredible value. The addition of factory go-fast goodies and a warranty make the car hard to pass up, especially when considering the limited run of just 7,700 units. Collectibility, value, performance and attitude make the 2008 Ford Mustang Bullitt a must-have for performance enthusiasts."
More excerpts:
Text excerpts taken from www.autoblog.com
"First Drive: 2008 Ford Mustang Bullitt - Day 1"
"Just as Autoblog announced the debut of the 2008 Bullitt Mustang, Ford was allowing a select number of journalists to drive the car in San Francisco, a fitting location for the car's debut. We were fortunate enough to receive an invite, and are fresh out of the driver's seat ready to report."
"The outside of the car is certainly understated, but the inside is as well, though in a different way. The details are what really help spark up the interior, like the new shifter, the GT500 seats that have been reupholstered just for the Bullitt, the leather-wrapped steering wheel with the Bullitt logo, the unique gauges, and the engined-turned metal dash that looks fantastic. Those seats are quite comfortable yet supportive and felt much better than the stock GT. We didn't complain at all after several hours in the car."
"While some might have been hoping for more performance, the 3:73 gears along with the extra 15 ponies make the Bullitt feel quite a bit faster than a stock GT. We're guessing that it will break the five second mark from 0-60 mph, and run the quarter mile in the very low 13s. The exhaust note is rather quiet from inside the cabin, but actually sounds aggressive from outside of the car. This is another factor that would make it ideal as a daily driver."
"First Drive: 2008 Ford Mustang Bullitt - Day 2"
"While Ford definitely could have done more with the Bullitt, it makes sense that they didn't. They are going after the owner who doesn't want the frills. There is no spoiler. No quarter window louvers. There is no excess of badges letting everyone know that the car is special. The only available colors are Highland Green and Black ? not exactly eye catching. Even the calipers, which were painted red on the 2001 version, have been painted grey to blend in with the wheels"
Text excerpts taken from www.edmunds.com
"It's a Mustang Bullitt, and that means it's gotta fly. Wheels up. First you hear the suspension droop. Then the engine slows to an idle as you instinctively take your foot off the accelerator. And just as the car reaches the apogee of its trajectory, everything in the cockpit experiences weightlessness ? you feel that in the pit of your stomach."
"Addition Through Subtraction"
"So to aesthetically transform the 2008 Mustang GT into a Bullitt, Ford started by leaving off all the "GT" badges and excising the standard rear wing from the deck lid. Then up front it installed a new black mesh grille without driving lights or a horse. Out back there are unique stainless-steel exhaust tips, and the fake fuel filler between the taillights is a new design incorporating a gun site and the word "Bullitt" in the same art deco lettering Warner Brothers used on some posters for the film."
"Carbon front brake pads are fitted to reduce brake fade. The suspension has also been lowered by just 6mm, which means the Bullitt's ride height is somewhere between a stock GT's and a Shelby GT's."
"Better Breathing, Better Sounding, Better Power"
"A new cold-air induction system that features an open-element air cleaner isolated from engine heat in its own sealed box just behind the left front headlight is the most obvious modification. And it's matched to a revised exhaust system tuned to reproduce the voice of McQueen's GT 390 (or at least what's on the movie's soundtrack)."
"The subtle stuff starts with revised programming of the engine control computer. First the redline has been bumped up 250 revs to 6,500 rpm. Second, a "dual knock" strategy in the fuel map and ignition programming allows the engine to run on either regular or premium fuel ? with the V8 making the same peak power either way, but with a slightly more generous torque curve when burning the good stuff."
"Ford backs that muscle with the Tremec five-speed manual transmission (no automatic will be offered) and the usual 8.8-inch rear end packed with a set of short 3.73:1 gears. (The GT runs a 3.55:1 set with the manual transmission.)"
"Drive It Like a Movie Star"
"The Bullitt uses those short gears to rip to 60 mph in just 5.2 seconds. That's a stunning 0.7-second better than the 2005 Mustang GT. And the Bullitt's 13.8 seconds to 102.1-mph quarter-mile performance is the best we've yet recorded for a production three-valve Mustang. The Bullitt's powertrain feels even more powerful than it is, and the shifter is among the very best on any car at any price."
"If only the chassis had limits to match. The all-season BFG tires just don't offer the grip the car deserves; the 0.84g skid pad performance and 67.2-mph trip through the slalom are both good for a Mustang, but modest for a performance car. The ABS-controlled four-wheel disc brakes, which resist fade rather well, also feel limited by the tires, and stopping from 60 mph took a so-so 122 feet."
Text excerpts taken from www.motortrend.com
"First Test: 2008 Ford Mustang Bullitt"
"While not an original movie car cue, the machined-turned IP exhibits a wonderful period look and brightens up the otherwise dark gray cabin. The shifter ball is machined aluminum, and satin-finished scuff plates, shifter surround, and pedal bezels remind you what brand of Mustang you're sitting in. The seats are similar to those in the upmarket GT500. A new-for-2008 interior touch is an LED ambient lighting system that allows you to select eight different colors to light up your cupholders and the front footwells-a $295 gimmick we're not sure Lt. Frank Bullitt would care much about."
"The strut, shock, and spring tuning is sportier than the GT's, but not to the level of FR's aftermarket package."
"The X-pipe is new, as are the mufflers."
"The shorter rear-axle ratios help the launch, and the revised intake, exhaust, and engine management systems beef up midrange torque and top-end power. The extra 250 revs are much appreciated. Zero-to-60 takes 5.0 seconds, as opposed to 5.1 to 5.2 for the variety of GTs we've tested, but it feels even stronger than that. Switch off the traction control, and fish-tailing burnouts are easy."
"Where the Bullitt really shines is chassis balance."
"The steering is more responsive than the standard GTs. In spite of its live axle, this Mustang doesn't get too riled up over mid-corner bumps. The ride quality is firm without jarring. There's adequate compliance, but it's never mushy, and body motions are well controlled. The Bullitt isn't a lightweight toss-around toy, but rides and handles with a sophistication usually reserved for higher-priced Euro toys."
"If there's any area where the Bullitt misfires, it's the tires. We understand the choice of BFGoodrich g-Force T/A mud and snow rubber as an all-weather solution, but they go up in smoke too easily. That means less grip on the skidpad and through our figure-eight test and the need for a tender right foot on the dragstrip. Grippier and/or wider performance compound tires would drop accel times and improve handling numbers. Braking distances are too long as well. While the carbon-metallic front pads proved fade resistant-as they heated up, stopping distances improved an average of two feet over each of five consecutive runs-the 127-foot 60-to-0 number isn't up to snuff for a modern musclecar. Stickier rubber would have made the difference here, too."
"The 2008 Mustang Bullitt is well conceived, designed, engineered, and ready to rock. It's crisper, sharper, and a bit quicker than a standard GT. Though not as fast as a GT500, it's better balanced and less expensive. The Green Machine has a classy, stealth look, and a heritage all its own. Ford plans 7000 Bullitts for the U.S. market, and it's likely to be the last special edition dedicated to the movie and the man."
A good review...
The biggest problem with the 2008 Mustang Bullitt is that Ford Motor Co. will make only 7,700 of them.
So that means come early next year only 7,000 Americans and 700 Canadians will have the chance to buy the best Mustang in Ford's stable of ponies. Which begs the question: Why do Canadians get any?
...read more
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/OPINION03/711140316/1148/AUTO01 (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/OPINION03/711140316/1148/AUTO01)
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 14, 2007, 07:51:28 AM
A good review...
The biggest problem with the 2008 Mustang Bullitt is that Ford Motor Co. will make only 7,700 of them.
So that means come early next year only 7,000 Americans and 700 Canadians will have the chance to buy the best Mustang in Ford's stable of ponies. Which begs the question: Why do Canadians get any?
Why? Because no nation in history has been as fortunate as the United States to have the nation and the citizens of Canada as neighbors and allies. Canada should also get 7,000 Bullitts.
Yes we should. Then I can buy two and sell the other one back to someone in the US.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 14, 2007, 05:56:55 PM
Yes we should. Then I can buy two and sell the other one back to someone in the US.
I agree...but I would be happy just to take one for a test drive :mrcool:!