I just saw this short new Focus review on Fifth gear and now I'm insanely jealous. Our '08 Focus has become too Americanized and ugly. The razor blade grille and lack of hatches makes me sad. :cry:
(http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070107/070107_ford_focus_2008_hmed.hmedium.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4y_bA9pPLc
http://www.ford.co.uk/ie/focmca/-/focmca_intro/-/-/-/-
(http://www.ford.co.uk/spg/getImage.asp?imageName=SPG_3_28_0_35464.jpg&filename=FF_Focus_Pop_1.jpg)
(http://www.ford.co.uk/spg/getImage.asp?imageName=SPG_3_28_0_35455.jpg&filename=FF_Focus_Pop_1.jpg)
(http://www.ford.co.uk/spg/getImage.asp?imageName=SPG_3_28_0_35458.jpg&filename=pop.jpg)
(http://www.ford.co.uk/spg/getImage.asp?imageName=SPG_3_28_0_35467.jpg&filename=FF_Focus_Pop_1.jpg)
Wow one looks so tacky and the other looks so crisp...
When i saw the thread i though you wanted a new(u.s.) focus.
I thought you were going soft or something.
Anyway whats new, euro model rocks u.s. model etc etc etc.
Its funny how we americans think we are at the top of the totem(sp) pole when it comes to car enthusiasts.
Their new model got another facelift while we still have the super fugly old version???
The people at Ford smoke crack all the time.
Quote from: Catman on February 05, 2008, 03:37:34 PM
The people at Ford smoke crack all the time.
I honestly wonder what goes on during their board meetings.
I love the Euro Focus and Mondeo. :frown:
that hatch looks real clean.
is it well received by the european press?
Quote from: Catman on February 05, 2008, 03:37:34 PM
The people at Ford smoke crack all the time.
That sums it up nicely.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 05, 2008, 03:14:30 PM
Their new model got another facelift while we still have the super fugly old version???
Well... we DID get a new one. It's crap, but we did get it. :huh:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 05, 2008, 03:47:37 PM
Well... we DID get a new one. It's crap, but we did get it. :huh:
Still based on the first gen car... They have the C2 Focus AND it got another face lift!
Quote from: J86 on February 05, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
that hatch looks real clean.
is it well received by the european press?
Check out the Fifth Gear clip.
They seemed to like it.
Interesting how they call it a "family hatchback". Here in the US, it would be too "small" for a family car. :rolleyes:
Top Gear liked the Focus ST as well. But I do believe they'd take the GTI over it. Evo liked the Focus ST too. But again, in a comparison with the GTI, it lost out.
The T5 gets pretty bad gas mileage, too.
Quote from: Raza on February 05, 2008, 04:54:17 PM
Top Gear liked the Focus ST as well. But I do believe they'd take the GTI over it. Evo liked the Focus ST too. But again, in a comparison with the GTI, it lost out.
The T5 gets pretty bad gas mileage, too.
theyre price-comparable?
Quote from: Raza link=topic=13247.msg730194#msg730194 date=1202255657
Top Gear liked the Focus ST as well. But I do believe they'd take the GTI over it. Evo liked the Focus ST too. But again, in a comparison with the GTI, it lost out.
The T5 gets pretty bad gas mileage, too.
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Quote from: NACar on February 05, 2008, 04:56:33 PM
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Quote from: Raza link=topic=13247.msg730194#msg730194 date=1202255657
Top Gear liked the Focus ST as well. But I do believe they'd take the GTI over it. Evo liked the Focus ST too. But again, in a comparison with the GTI, it lost out.
The T5 gets pretty bad gas mileage, too.
The T5 has the Five-Cylinder, the largest engine available in the focus range.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on February 05, 2008, 05:01:17 PM
Reported.
No 1337 talk in my thread.
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Quote from: J86 on February 05, 2008, 04:56:08 PM
theyre price-comparable?
The GTI is a little more expensive than the Focus ST, about 2K GBP according to the UK websites (base prices). But, despite being down on power, it's quicker to 60 and it handles better.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 05, 2008, 05:01:46 PM
The T5 has the Five-Cylinder, the largest engine available in the focus range.
The T5 (the same as the Volvo T5, I believe) is the engine in the Focus ST. Thanks for saying what I just said. T is for turbo, 5 is for 5.
:lol:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 05, 2008, 03:47:37 PM
Well... we DID get a new one. It's crap, but we did get it. :huh:
Have you even driven a new one? I have and I came away very impressed. Except for the asthmatic engine, the US Focus is a very good car. In fact it's a very very good car.
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 05, 2008, 05:26:28 PM
Have you even driven a new one? I have and I came away very impressed. Except for the asthmatic engine, the US Focus is a very good car. In fact it's a very very good car.
It may be, but it looks like shit, particularly when placed next to it's European counterpart.
Quote from: J86 on February 05, 2008, 05:27:35 PM
It may be, but it looks like shit, particularly when placed next to it's European counterpart.
Yep, even my 2002 is STILL better than a 2008 Cobalt in nearly every way.
2000-2004 Focus FTW. The 2000-2004 US spec version is not quite as good looking (or as well-built) as the European version, but it's the least corrupted Focus there is.
sO, mR.280Z. Since you want the Euro Focus, why not look at the Volvo C30?
i don't understand the focus, just buy a mazda 3 and be done with it.
better style, better performance, better interior, better everything.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on February 05, 2008, 07:48:32 PM
i don't understand the focus, just buy a mazda 3 and be done with it.
better style, better performance, better interior, better everything.
I hate the look of the Mazda 3. It looks like a minivan.
The C1 Focus looks better.
Quote from: NACar on February 05, 2008, 06:03:23 PM
sO, mR.280Z. Since you want the Euro Focus, why not look at the Volvo C30?
It's expensive.
But I do love that car. :wub:
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on February 05, 2008, 07:56:16 PM
I hate the look of the Mazda 3. It looks like a minivan.
The C1 Focus looks better.
ooookkkk
*pats 280 on the head
you go play and let the adults talk
Wait, which one is the C1? if your talking abou the orange focus pictured then yes it looks fantastic.
The 3 does not look like a minivan, and is better looking than ANY focus that ever hit our shores.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on February 05, 2008, 07:57:10 PM
ooookkkk
*pats 280 on the head
you go play and let the adults talk
You are wrong.
The Mazda 3 is too soft, bubbly and tall.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on February 05, 2008, 07:59:24 PM
You are wrong.
The Mazda 3 is too soft, bubbly and tall.
I'm confused, are we talking about the same car?
Soft? Bubbly?? Tall??
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on February 05, 2008, 07:56:50 PM
It's expensive.
But I do love that car. :wub:
Euro Focus is just as expensive
Quote from: NACar on February 05, 2008, 08:01:08 PM
Euro Focus is just as expensive
As a comparison, the C30 T5 costs 23K GBP in the UK, the Focus ST is 18K GBP. GTI is 20,8K GBP.