http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/19/geneva-08-preview-kia-soul-burner-concept-the-koreans-go-afte/
Looks Cool. Could definitely be a Scion Fighter.
Not bad, from what I can tell.
Can I get a picture of the whole car, not just half of its ass? :wtf:
Looks like a Nissan NOTE.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2008, 09:40:08 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/19/geneva-08-preview-kia-soul-burner-concept-the-koreans-go-afte/
Looks like a dog taking a pee. :lol:
Seriously the Koreans are building some respectible cars nowadays.
Whoops, I was looking at the car pic in your sig when I posted that.
But Korean cars have no SOUL! The name is as inappropriate as the Mitsubishi Carisma, a car severely lacking the attribute which it was named after.
I really don't care what the rest of it looks like. I simply can't be bothered.
Cheers,
Madman of the People
Its got soul!
Quote from: Madman on February 19, 2008, 11:04:43 AM
But Korean cars have no SOUL!
Sure they do!
Oh wait... Sorry, I meant Seoul...
Quote from: Madman on February 19, 2008, 11:04:43 AM
But Korean cars have no SOUL! The name is as inappropriate as the Mitsubishi Carisma, a car severely lacking the attribute which it was named after.
I really don't care what the rest of it looks like. I simply can't be bothered.
Cheers,
Madman of the People
I have a question. What makes a car have soul, or soulless?
Yeah, it would've been cool if they called it the Seoul.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2008, 12:05:47 PM
I have a question. What makes a car have soul, or soulless?
Peugeot 206: Soul
Toyota Camry: Soulless
You figure it out.
Quote from: 850CSi on February 19, 2008, 12:06:23 PM
Peugeot 206: Soul
Toyota Camry: Soulless
You figure it out.
How?
Both are not the best in their class. Both are notable cars. Both have record sales, and at one point have owned their respective markets.
Quote from: 850CSi on February 19, 2008, 12:05:51 PM
Yeah, it would've been cool if they called it the Seoul.
Then you'd have idiots that's confuse North Korea with South Korea, and sales would tank.
Another horrid box on wheels?
Quote from: Raza link=topic=13463.msg747754#msg747754 date=1203450179
Another horrid box on wheels?
Horrid?
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2008, 12:17:56 PM
How?
Both are not the best in their class. Both are notable cars. Both have record sales, and at one point have owned their respective markets.
If you don't know when a car has soul and when one doesn't then you need to drive a few more cars with soul.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2008, 12:17:56 PM
How?
Both are not the best in their class. Both are notable cars. Both have record sales, and at one point have owned their respective markets.
You will understand when you can drive. :ohyeah:
(That wasn't meant to be sarcasm or an insult)
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 19, 2008, 12:59:22 PM
If you don't know when a car has soul and when one doesn't then you need to drive a few more cars with soul.
He's like 13 or 14. He has never driven.
Ok.
So the Camry is a bore to drive?
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2008, 12:47:03 PM
Horrid?
hor?rid /ˈhɔrɪd, ˈhɒr-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hawr-id, hor-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?adjective
1. such as to cause horror; shockingly dreadful; abominable.
2. extremely unpleasant or disagreeable: horrid weather; She thought her uncle was horrid.
3. Archaic. shaggy or bristling; rough.
Quote from: Raza on February 19, 2008, 12:42:59 PM
Another horrid box on wheels?
Yes, quite.
http://www.jedisaber.com/SW/Sounds/ROTJ035.wav
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2008, 01:51:53 PM
Ok.
So the Camry is a bore to drive?
It's more fun than an Enzo to drive through the twisties, because of the thrill of hanging for your life from the high level of body roll that makes you feel like you're going to skid off the road.
Yes, the Camry is a bore to drive. I'm the resident Camry troll, but yes they're boring.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2008, 01:51:53 PM
Ok.
So the Camry is a bore to drive?
Camries seem to be made for drivers that want minimal involvement and with newer models, relative isolation from the road.
So yes, they are boring.
(http://www.bustedtees.com/bt/images/BT-southkorea-gallery-448.jpg)
Either it's the picture quality of one of the spy shots, but this looks like it's going to be a bit on the tall side for a small car... This is coming over to the US right (since it probably is targeted at the Scions)
Speaking of Scions though, anyone notice the Scion hype has died down tremendously? I haven't seen a lot of the new Scions out lately especially the new xoB.
I guess people got over the that it looks different hype and decided it's just another box.
Quote from: NomisR on February 21, 2008, 05:36:54 PM
Speaking of Scions though, anyone notice the Scion hype has died down tremendously? I haven't seen a lot of the new Scions out lately especially the new xoB.
I guess people got over the that it looks different hype and decided it's just another box.
I don't think I've seen any xD's and the car that replaced the xA yet.
They're pretty fugly.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 21, 2008, 05:41:26 PM
I don't think I've seen any xD's and the car that replaced the xA yet.
They're pretty fugly.
They're pretty practical though. I know a musician who has one and I couldn't believe all the crap he could haul in it.
Yeah, I haven't seen too many Scions lately. It's strange because I see a lot of previous generation xBs and xAs. IMO the xD doesn't look all that bad compared to the other models. Of course I still see my fair share of tCs (they're best looking model).
I've seen quite a few new xBs in my area. From what I can tell through the excessively tinted windows, the average age of the driver is probably in the low 40's.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 21, 2008, 05:41:26 PM
I don't think I've seen any xD's and the car that replaced the xA yet.
They're pretty fugly.
Darth Vader on four wheels.
Kia's forgetting that old people buy Scions.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/14/production-kia-soul-gets-impromptu-online-reveal/
I love it.
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/03/kia-soul-production-rear_opt.jpg)
Quote from: 2o6 on February 19, 2008, 12:18:36 PM
Then you'd have idiots that's confuse North Korea with South Korea, and sales would tank.
How does that make sense?
Quote from: CALL_911 on March 14, 2008, 06:14:58 PM
How does that make sense?
Seoul, South korea. The Capital. People would think South Korea is the Communist ones.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 14, 2008, 06:39:35 PM
Seoul, South korea. The Capital. People would think South Korea is the Communist ones.
I don't think people are quite
that ignorant. If they know what North Korea is, and what's up with it, they definitely know where Seoul is.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 14, 2008, 06:39:35 PM
Seoul, South korea. The Capital. People would think South Korea is the Communist ones.
I don't think there is even the remote possibility of this ever happening, at least in the US. We citizens have been thoroughly brow-beaten by our government into the belief that Kim Jong Il is a member of the dreaded Axis of Evil, the most malevolent force in all of recorded time. Infinite in their nefarious reach, they are even more powerful than the Superfriends!
Quote from: thecarnut on February 21, 2008, 05:41:26 PM
I don't think I've seen any xD's and the car that replaced the xA yet.
They're pretty fugly.
I saw an xD the other day. They're ugly, but less so than the xA. I also saw a new xB in a parking lot. I preferred the looks of the old one better.
Quote from: MX793 on March 16, 2008, 10:14:43 AM
I saw an xD the other day. They're ugly, but less so than the xA. I also saw a new xB in a parking lot. I preferred the looks of the old one better.
I think the xD is the new xB, but I could be wrong.
Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:37:41 AM
I think the xD is the new xB, but I could be wrong.
No, the xD replaced the xA. The xB has been redesigned and is still sold as the xB.
Quote from: MX793 on March 16, 2008, 02:31:09 PM
No, the xD replaced the xA. The xB has been redesigned and is still sold as the xB.
Oh, nevermind then.
I actually sort of like the xD..
Quote from: TBR on March 16, 2008, 03:24:20 PM
I actually sort of like the xD..
It's a lot less ugly in person. I rather find it's uglyness attractive.
I don't think this car has the hit potential of the cee'd.
(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_527/car_photo_263544_7.jpg)
(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_527/car_photo_263541_25.jpg)
(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_527/car_photo_263538_25.jpg)
(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_527/car_photo_263535_25.jpg)
(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_527/car_photo_263532_25.jpg)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/spyshots/222576/kia_soul.html
Holy thread resurrection, Batman! :zzz:
Cheers,
Madman of the People
I do dig this car.
I like it too. I think that keenly priced, the Soul could fill the niche left by the xB since it started taking steroids.
Quote from: akuma_supreme on June 11, 2008, 12:10:17 PM
I like it too. I think that keenly priced, the Soul could fill the niche left by the xB since it started taking steroids.
........more like eating McDonalds.
Spied at a Factory.
http://thecarblogger.blogspot.com/2008/07/spied-kia-soul-snapped-uncloaked-inside.html
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/TheCarBlogger/kia_soul_spy_1_medium.jpg)
That extra bit of ground clearance makes it attractive for places with lots of potholes.
And I like the xD interior a lot more than the xA's
xD
(http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/E/g/tmc_08scionxd_dash.jpg)
xA
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/autoreview/400x266/2005-Scion-xA-05813001990002.jpg)
Damn, that is one shit-ugly car!!!!
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/TheCarBlogger/kia_soul_spy_2_medium.jpg)
Cheers,
Madman of the People
Quote from: Madman on July 08, 2008, 05:32:47 AM
Damn, that is one shit-ugly car!!!!
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/TheCarBlogger/kia_soul_spy_2_medium.jpg)
Cheers,
Madman of the People
That means it's polarizing. I like it, you don't. That's something Kia doesn't have in their lineup.
It looks like it's already been in a crash.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 08, 2008, 07:51:04 AM
That means it's polarizing.
No, that means it's shit-ugly!
Cheers,
Madman of the People
Quote from: Madman on July 10, 2008, 09:05:52 PM
No, that means it's shit-ugly!
Cheers,
Madman of the People
It's polarizing. I like it, you don't. There will be people that'll agree with me, and people that'll agree with you.
I think it looks cool. Something a young person would drive.
Quote from: CJ on July 10, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
I think it looks cool. Something a young person would drive.
Damn kids and their music :rolleyes:
Quote from: CJ on July 10, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
I think it looks cool. Something a young person would drive.
I think it'll eat other Small Hatches like the xB, alive. It's a B-segment car, roughly around the same size as the Old xB.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 10, 2008, 09:50:27 PM
It's polarizing. I like it, you don't. There will be people that'll agree with me, and people that'll agree with you.
Is "polarising" the new politically correct codeword for "ugly"? In that case, the girl I saw at the gas station yesterday isn't "ugly", she's "aesthetically polarising"!
:lol:
Cheers,
Madman of the People
It's ugly. 2o6, you like ugly cars. CJ, young people usually like shit cars.
Quote from: Raza on July 12, 2008, 10:41:10 AM
It's ugly. 2o6, you like ugly cars. CJ, young people usually like shit cars.
I'm 30, and I like both the old and new Xbs, as well as the Soul.
Am I old or young? I can't remember.
Quote from: Madman on July 11, 2008, 06:30:48 PM
Is "polarising" the new politically correct codeword for "ugly"? In that case, the girl I saw at the gas station yesterday isn't "ugly", she's "aesthetically polarising"!
:lol:
Cheers,
Madman of the People
ROFL
Quote from: akuma_supreme on July 13, 2008, 06:23:39 PM
I'm 30, and I like both the old and new Xbs, as well as the Soul.
Am I old or young? I can't remember.
Well, you're older than most people who like them, but younger than most people who buy them.
I'm young and the Soul doesn't do anything for me.
This commercial played at the theater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ-CDE_r_wg
Lots of "awwwwws" from the audience.
The average age for Scion is 39.. You see a ton of middle aged people driving these boxes..
Quote from: Laconian on April 13, 2009, 01:03:16 AM
This commercial played at the theater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ-CDE_r_wg
Lots of "awwwwws" from the audience.
That commercial was good enough the first few times through, but now it's just annoying. It's time to change it up, for sure.
Quote from: Laconian on April 13, 2009, 01:03:16 AM
This commercial played at the theater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ-CDE_r_wg
Lots of "awwwwws" from the audience.
I hate the car, I hate the commercial.
Great commercial, and great car for the money.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 13, 2009, 06:43:49 PM
Great commercial, and great car for the money.
Would you take one over a Cube?
Quote from: 2o6 on April 13, 2009, 06:59:35 PM
Would you take one over a Cube?
I really like the Cube, but yeah, I think I would.
I wouldn't take any of those ugly turds.
I like the Soul. I like the idea of small 2 box utility vehicles, all the better when they have a slightly fun style. Not every car has to be a mucle car or supercar. A cheap, small utility vehicle is one of the best all around vehciles to own.
How can you hate a car like this? What went wrong in your childhood that a mechancial object causes hatred?
Quote from: ChrisV on April 14, 2009, 06:25:15 AM
I like the Soul. I like the idea of small 2 box utility vehicles, all the better when they have a slightly fun style. Not every car has to be a mucle car or supercar. A cheap, small utility vehicle is one of the best all around vehciles to own.
How can you hate a car like this? What went wrong in your childhood that a mechancial object causes hatred?
As a child, some bigger kids trapped him inside an old refrigerator for three days. Ever since, he's had an irrational hatred of boxy metal objects. ;)
Cheers,
Madman of the People
Quote from: Laconian on April 13, 2009, 01:03:16 AM
This commercial played at the theater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ-CDE_r_wg
Lots of "awwwwws" from the audience.
Here's our dreadful one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAQefx_6M8A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAQefx_6M8A)
I used to hate the little box cars, but the reality is they make great city runabouts, and the extra space is very useful for running errands.
Is there anyone besides me who thinks the xB looks better than this?
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 14, 2009, 10:40:31 AM
Is there anyone besides me who thinks the xB looks better than this?
Have you ever ridden in/driven anything with that Toyota 2.4 in it? I don't know how why everyone calls it refined because it's not. Sure, it's fairly quiet, but it's really buzzy and anemic, and it returns horrible gas mileage.
No thanks.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 14, 2009, 10:46:52 AM
Have you ever ridden in/driven anything with that Toyota 2.4 in it? I don't know how why everyone calls it refined because it's not. Sure, it's fairly quiet, but it's really buzzy and anemic, and it returns horrible gas mileage.
No thanks.
A Camry? I've been a 4-cylinder Camry once. It wasn't that bad.
Last I checked, the engine didn't have anything to do with the LOOKS of the car. ;)
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 14, 2009, 10:49:07 AM
A Camry? I've been a 4-cylinder Camry once. It wasn't that bad.
Last I checked, the engine didn't have anything to do with the LOOKS of the car. ;)
Okay, time to start again. The second gen xB looks like shit. And it has a massive bind spot.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 14, 2009, 10:52:57 AM
Okay, time to start again. The second gen xB looks like shit. And it has a massive bind spot.
Really, I don't like either of them, but I think the xB looks better than the Soul.
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 14, 2009, 10:40:31 AM
Is there anyone besides me who thinks the xB looks better than this?
No.
I think they should make an AWD turbo version to compete with the Suzuki SX4.
I would buy one (if I had the money). :praise:
I like the Soul better than the current xB and the original xB. It's a bunch less bland then either, and more like a European utility vehicle than an Asian one. I'd prefer a Fiat Panda 100 to all of them, but this is pretty close, with actually more useability than the Fiat would have.
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2010/kia.soul/10.kia.soul.f34.500.jpg)
I like the fender flares, with the crisp edges. I like the body line that runs from under the headlights, sweeps up over the flare, and then becomes the scoop line down the side, giving definition to the side and helping it look less blocky. I like the rounded face of it. With the blacked out bit on the lower front facia, the bumper looks less massive than the xB, and looks less like someone kicked it in the chin. I like the round lights up front rather than the huge useless scoops on the sides of the xB bumper.
I'm quite a fan of its looks, too.
I really like the way this car looks.
The car looks more "dynamic" (for lack of a better term) in real life than in pics; the flares and character lines stand out more, and brings alot more to the table than the regular box shape of the XB.
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 14, 2009, 10:40:31 AM
Is there anyone besides me who thinks the xB looks better than this?
:confused:
I'd test drive a Soul. But I'd also test drive the Cube. The xB? Nah. It's the "dorkiest" of the three boxes...and yes, I realize what I just wrote. :lol:
Quote from: USA_Idol on April 15, 2009, 10:49:48 PM
I'd test drive a Soul. But I'd also test drive the Cube. The xB? Nah. It's the "dorkiest" of the three boxes...and yes, I realize what I just wrote. :lol:
I want to test drive a Soul, a Cube, and an iQ. I'd never buy any of them but I imagine the driving experience for each of those cars is uniquely bizarre.
The Soul is a stylized Kia Rio. The Cube is a stylized Nissan Versa. Reviews seem to indicate there isn't much distinctive in the driving dynamics from their source cars.
I enjoy the cognitive dissonance of little boxy cars like the 1st gen xB, due to the difference in the way the vehicle drives (like a car) and the way it feels on the inside (like a massive van).
There's a Scion xB just like this one driving around here.
(http://loweredambitionz.com/images/arron.jpg)
Quote from: HEMI666 on April 17, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
There's a Scion xB just like this one driving around here.
(http://loweredambitionz.com/images/arron.jpg)
Is it bad that I really like that? :mask:
Quote from: thecarnut on April 17, 2009, 10:27:01 AM
Is it bad that I really like that? :mask:
Very much so. I can fix this, however.
(http://www.collectormotors.com/carsoldpix/1969CamaroSS.jpg)
(http://www.zorly.com/images_corvette/09-06-08/ZR-1%201990-1995%20wikipedia.jpg)
(http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/69-70/70/70boss429.jpg)
Quote from: omicron on April 17, 2009, 10:33:43 AM
Very much so. I can fix this, however.
(http://www.collectormotors.com/carsoldpix/1969CamaroSS.jpg)
(http://www.zorly.com/images_corvette/09-06-08/ZR-1%201990-1995%20wikipedia.jpg)
(http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/69-70/70/70boss429.jpg)
C4 Corvette! :wub:
You can keep the others.
My job here is done. :praise:
I can see myself owning a Soul someday.
I can also see myself owning a '66 GTO.
What does that say about me?
Quote from: the Teuton on April 17, 2009, 10:45:12 AM
What does that say about me?
I'm glad you asked.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 17, 2009, 10:45:12 AM
I can see myself owning a Soul someday.
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/27/daffyd_narrowweb__300x414,0.jpg)
(http://www.melrosejewelers.com/rolex-watch-blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/103-zac-efron-musical-400a041207-300x300.jpg)
Quote from: the Teuton on April 17, 2009, 10:45:12 AM
I can also see myself owning a '66 GTO.
(http://www.costaricapages.com/panama/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/redneck1.jpg)
so basically you're saying that means he's a redneck male cheerleader?
WTF, mate. WTF.
Quote from: thecarnut on April 17, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
C4 Corvette! :wub:
You can keep the others.
GTFO! The Mustang and Camaro are way cooler then that Vette.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 17, 2009, 11:05:52 AM
WTF, mate. WTF.
It is clear that I need some other form of entertainment on Friday nights.
Quote from: omicron on April 17, 2009, 11:09:35 AM
It is clear that I need some other form of entertainment on Friday nights.
damn. It's still 10:00 am here. I'm at the office for 7 more hours. boo.
Quote from: HEMI666 on April 17, 2009, 11:06:58 AM
GTFO! The Mustang and Camaro are way cooler then that Vette.
Especially that '69 Camaro SS. That is one bad-ass car. :rockon:
Quote from: HEMI666 on April 17, 2009, 11:06:58 AM
GTFO! The Mustang and Camaro are way cooler then that Vette.
Fine, I'll have the Camaro too.
You can have the Mustang. I don't like it.
Quote from: thecarnut on April 17, 2009, 11:18:22 AM
Fine, I'll have the Camaro too.
You can have the Mustang. I don't like it.
Parnelli Jones will be there laughing at your funeral.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 17, 2009, 11:20:03 AM
Parnelli Jones will be there laughing at your funeral.
Just not a fan of that Mustang...
Quote from: thecarnut on April 17, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
Just not a fan of that Mustang...
Understandable.
I find myself really liking the "Terminator" Cobra all of a sudden.
Quote from: ifcar on April 17, 2009, 09:38:10 AM
The Soul is a stylized Kia Rio. The Cube is a stylized Nissan Versa. Reviews seem to indicate there isn't much distinctive in the driving dynamics from their source cars.
From what I hear, the Soul Sport is a fun to drive little box.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 17, 2009, 11:42:56 AM
From what I hear, the Soul Sport is a fun to drive little box.
I've seen nothing to indicate it handles any better than the Rio5, but I look forward to finding out for myself.
Quote from: ifcar on April 17, 2009, 11:45:36 AM
I've seen nothing to indicate it handles any better than the Rio5, but I look forward to finding out for myself.
IIRC, the Soul Sport has a different suspension and larger wheels. That's got to be worth something.
Quote from: thecarnut on April 17, 2009, 11:18:22 AM
Fine, I'll have the Camaro too.
You can have the Mustang. I don't like it.
I'll take it. My favorite Mustang. I've had 3 '70 fastbacks (one plain V8 one, one Mach 1, and one BOSS 302)
Quote from: USA_Idol on April 15, 2009, 10:49:48 PM
The xB? Nah. It's the "dorkiest" of the three boxes...and yes, I realize what I just wrote. :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZPoo9NGtvY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZPoo9NGtvY)
now I remember why I don't use the 241 toll road :nutty: