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Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: BMWDave on July 15, 2005, 07:58:26 AM

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Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona

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Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona

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Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 08:02:26 AM

It was unveiled at the LA auto show last winter.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: TBR on July 15, 2005, 08:40:12 AM

This is the first time I have seen pics of the new Sedona. Anyway, the front looks good, the rear taillights are too big, and the interior is great (obviously I haven't been in it yet, but it looks class leading imho).

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 08:47:01 AM

I think the front taillights are too big, myself. The rear headlights are nice, though.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: thewizard16 on July 15, 2005, 09:37:19 AM

QuoteThis is the first time I have seen pics of the new Sedona. Anyway, the front looks good, the rear taillights are too big, and the interior is great (obviously I haven't been in it yet, but it looks class leading imho).

I don't like the front all that much, but it's not ugly. The rear looks good, but those tail lights look really similar to the ones on the Tundra Double Cab. Interior looks great. With the Odyessy and Sienna, I don't think it is, or will be, class leading, but it should be competitive.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 09:38:44 AM

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QuoteThis is the first time I have seen pics of the new Sedona. Anyway, the front looks good, the rear taillights are too big, and the interior is great (obviously I haven't been in it yet, but it looks class leading imho).
I don't like the front all that much, but it's not ugly. The rear looks good, but those tail lights look really similar to the ones on the Tundra Double Cab. Interior looks great. With the Odyessy and Sienna, I don't think it is, or will be, class leading, but it should be competitive.

I can see where you're coming from there, but they also resemble the Kia Spectra5 lights, which makes more sense.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: TBR on July 15, 2005, 09:39:01 AM

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QuoteThis is the first time I have seen pics of the new Sedona. Anyway, the front looks good, the rear taillights are too big, and the interior is great (obviously I haven't been in it yet, but it looks class leading imho).
I don't like the front all that much, but it's not ugly. The rear looks good, but those tail lights look really similar to the ones on the Tundra Double Cab. Interior looks great. With the Odyessy and Sienna, I don't think it is, or will be, class leading, but it should be competitive.

Don't care for either interior design, they just look awkward, this van's doesn't.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: thewizard16 on July 15, 2005, 09:47:50 AM

Quote(http://tinypic.com/8wgsyd.jpg)

I'm not sure how you can say the Sienna's interior looks awkward if you like the Sedona.

Sienna-
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Odyessy-
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Maybe the Odyessy, but the Sienna and the Sedona look similar, I think.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: TBR on July 15, 2005, 09:48:59 AM

My problem is with the way the wood trim is shaped around the center stack, too "space agey" imho.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: thewizard16 on July 15, 2005, 09:51:06 AM

QuoteMy problem is with the way the wood trim is shaped around the center stack, too "space agey" imho.

Okay. *cough* crazy *cough* :lol: ;)

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 09:51:08 AM

In person, it looks anything but "space-agey."

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: TBR on July 15, 2005, 09:51:43 AM

I have seen it in person and I still think it is an awkward design.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: thewizard16 on July 15, 2005, 09:52:01 AM

QuoteIn person, it looks anything but "space-agey."

Agreed.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 09:56:45 AM

I suppose it's a matter of taste then.

I am interested in seeing the new Sedona interior in person myself BTW, as the current one looks good in pics, but the center stack looks far too wide in person.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 15, 2005, 09:57:54 AM

looks like a chia pet

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: TBR on July 15, 2005, 09:58:14 AM

It looks too wide in pics also imho:
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Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 09:59:27 AM

But it doesn't come off as looking bad for being wide in pics. It does in person.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: 93JC on July 15, 2005, 10:48:27 AM

:lol: Nice Odyssey!

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 10:53:28 AM

Quote:lol: Nice Odyssey!

You think they look alike? :blink:

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Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: TBR on July 15, 2005, 10:54:23 AM

I can see the similarity in the front clip, but that is it. It looks more like the last gen Quest.

Edit- just checked the pics again, now I don't see any similarities.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: mazda6er on July 15, 2005, 10:57:47 AM

Looks really nice to me.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: 93JC on July 15, 2005, 10:57:50 AM

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Quote:lol: Nice Odyssey!
You think they look alike? :blink:

Quite a lot, yes. The body lines are almost exactly the same. A few of the details are different, but the similarities are so blatant it's funny.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: mazda6er on July 15, 2005, 10:59:09 AM

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Quote:lol: Nice Odyssey!
You think they look alike? :blink:
Quite a lot, yes. The body lines are almost exactly the same. A few of the details are different, but the similarities are so blatant it's funny.

How much different can you make two minivans look anyway?

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 11:00:01 AM

QuoteI can see the similarity in the front clip, but that is it. It looks more like the last gen Quest.

Edit- just checked the pics again, now I don't see any similarities.

I'm not the only one who sees Quest/Villager in it, that's good.

93JC, any similarities you note are probably those shared between all minivans anyway. I'm not seeing anything.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: thewizard16 on July 15, 2005, 11:12:42 AM

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Quote:lol: Nice Odyssey!
You think they look alike? :blink:
Quite a lot, yes. The body lines are almost exactly the same. A few of the details are different, but the similarities are so blatant it's funny.

Other than a similar, and not uncommon rear bumper shape, and the basic minvan shape, I really don't see any similarities between the Odyssey and the new Sedona.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: Raghavan on July 15, 2005, 02:57:07 PM

it's ok...

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2005, 03:08:59 PM

(http://tinypic.com/8wgsyd.jpg)

Please don't tell me that shifter gate on the bottom right of the shifter is a manumatic gate... <_<

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 03:09:46 PM

It is.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2005, 03:14:35 PM

Wow. Why give a van a manumatic?

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: Raghavan on July 15, 2005, 04:27:50 PM

QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?

so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2005, 06:02:54 PM

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QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:

Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: Raghavan on July 15, 2005, 06:12:10 PM

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QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:
Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^

in a minivan?
although those drifts seemed cool that Vin Diesel did in The pacifier with a Sienna. :P

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2005, 06:24:58 PM

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QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:
Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^
in a minivan?

Says the same person who said that the Mazda5 ought to have a performance package with a unique platform. :rolleyes:

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2005, 07:27:47 PM

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QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:
Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^
in a minivan?
although those drifts seemed cool that Vin Diesel did in The pacifier with a Sienna. :P

Ehhh who cares how fast or slow the car is, it's still fun to choose your own gears. And besides, my mom always wanted to be a race car driver...this would be perfect for her! :P (I'm serious)

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: Raghavan on July 16, 2005, 12:52:49 AM

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QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:
Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^
in a minivan?
although those drifts seemed cool that Vin Diesel did in The pacifier with a Sienna. :P
Ehhh who cares how fast or slow the car is, it's still fun to choose your own gears. And besides, my mom always wanted to be a race car driver...this would be perfect for her! :P (I'm serious)

:o :P :D

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: cozmik on July 16, 2005, 08:45:05 AM

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Quote:lol: Nice Odyssey!
You think they look alike? :blink:
Quite a lot, yes. The body lines are almost exactly the same. A few of the details are different, but the similarities are so blatant it's funny.

I noticed that as well. The Exterior is clearly inspired by the Honda, the interior by the Toyota.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: Raghavan on July 16, 2005, 06:29:38 PM

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QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:
Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^
in a minivan?

Says the same person who said that the Mazda5 ought to have a performance package with a unique platform. :rolleyes:

yeah, but that was the whole deal. RWD, manual, and good handling. i don't see the point of having a manumatic in a comfy minivan.

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: Raza on July 16, 2005, 06:36:57 PM

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QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:
Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^

Beats the hell out of a regular auto. Once, I stuck it in D to save gas (I upshift later and hold gears longer than the auto does) and I accidently shoved the gear lever into neutral. Old habits...

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: giant_mtb on July 16, 2005, 06:42:33 PM

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QuoteWow. Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:
Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^
in a minivan?

Says the same person who said that the Mazda5 ought to have a performance package with a unique platform. :rolleyes:
yeah, but that was the whole deal. RWD, manual, and good handling. i don't see the point of having a manumatic in a comfy minivan.

I dunno what the point is, but if my mom had this car I'd want to drive here everywhere she goes, regardless of shift speed or acceleration of the car...it would still be shifting your own gears which is fun. :lol:

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: BMWDave on July 16, 2005, 08:23:52 PM

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QuoteWow.? Why give a van a manumatic?
so soccer moms can pretend they're driving a sports car on the way to the soccer game. :rolleyes:
Actually I wouldn't mind having a manumatic in any car...it would be kinda fun. ^_^
Beats the hell out of a regular auto. Once, I stuck it in D to save gas (I upshift later and hold gears longer than the auto does) and I accidently shoved the gear lever into neutral. Old habits...

:lol:

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: CaseyNPham on July 21, 2005, 09:19:56 PM

WHen I saw the concept in the C/D magazine, I thought "I hope this doesn't go into production"

I think the interior is nice FOR A KIA but the exterior is... Could I say funky??? The center console looks a little Fordish but that's nothing bad. I'd say it's alright, but being the awful person I am, it's still a Kia. ^_^

Title: Kia Unveils Carnival/Sedona
Post by: ifcar on July 22, 2005, 06:13:22 AM

It doesn't look strange from the outside, just bland. And bland is preferable to the ugly route that Honda took with its van.

And you think the interior looks like it's from a Ford? I don't see where you got that from, which model are you talking about?.

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