In your opinion, what are some of the worst sounding cars ever made and why?
I would, first and foremost, have to nominate any ported Mazda rotary engine as being one of the worst sounding engines ever made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJxkIEKG-Ug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4El8z8Jkc
Why? It's coarse, buzzy, and about as melodious as a Beastie Boys song.
The worst sounding cars are electric because they make no sound at all.
Quote from: NACar on September 13, 2008, 04:33:13 PM
The worst sounding cars are electric because they make no sound at all.
Don't say that. Electric cars are the future.
The writing is on the wall. The ICE will be obsolete pretty soon.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 13, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
In your opinion, what are some of the worst sounding cars ever made and why?
I would, first and foremost, have to nominate any ported Mazda rotary engine as being one of the worst sounding engines ever made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJxkIEKG-Ug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4El8z8Jkc
Why? It's coarse, buzzy, and about as melodious as a Beastie Boys song.
Damn. I like the braaap, braaap, braaap, of a well ported rotary, like my old RX3 or my early 13B Rx7, and my buddy's IMSA RS RX3 and Formula Libre. that first one sounds like my old car. TYhe second one does, however, sound like crap.
My 1990 Civic that I put a Flowmaster 40 on. People on the street would look around to see who's riding a dirtbike in the middle of the city. It was cool. :rockon:
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 13, 2008, 04:35:54 PM
Don't say that. Electric cars are the future.
The writing is on the wall. The ICE will be obsolete pretty soon.
They will require an artifical soundtrack connected to the throttle... or switch.. umm, go-pedal, so it pumps F430 sounds throught he stereo system, and an external loudspeaker. The silence of electric vehicles is dangerous, and this is just one solution.
Quote from: NACar on September 13, 2008, 04:39:12 PM
They will require an artifical soundtrack connected to the throttle... or switch.. umm, go-pedal, so it pumps F430 sounds throught he stereo system, and an external loudspeaker. The silence of electric vehicles is dangerous, and this is just one solution.
they aren't that quiet. Ever listen to an electric RC car? They simply have a different sound. They are quiet when not moving, but underway, electrics have their own sound.
Quote from: ChrisV on September 13, 2008, 04:40:16 PM
they aren't that quiet. Ever listen to an electric RC car? They simply have a different sound. They are quiet when not moving, but underway, electrics have their own sound.
Electric RC cars have noisey straight cut gear boxes. That kind of unrefined sound will simply not be tolerated by the public or the automotive NVH engineering deparments. Everyone wants to be as quiets as possible, because quiet is luxurious and fancy. You have a point, though. Most gas-powered new cars are nearly silent already, so it won't be much of a change.
Quote from: ChrisV on September 13, 2008, 04:36:56 PM
Damn. I like the braaap, braaap, braaap, of a well ported rotary, like my old RX3 or my early 13B Rx7, and my buddy's IMSA RS RX3 and Formula Libre. that first one sounds like my old car. TYhe second one does, however, sound like crap.
I love it when I get to drive our raceteam's E-Prod first gen RX-7, but I still hate the sound and the narrow power band of a rotary. I wear earplugs and a helmet and it's still way too loud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRDw2VWhBXA
piece of crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SdKoWbtcyU
Quote from: NACar on September 13, 2008, 05:02:41 PM
piece of crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SdKoWbtcyU
:confused: :nutty:
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 13, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
In your opinion, what are some of the worst sounding cars ever made and why?
I would, first and foremost, have to nominate any ported Mazda rotary engine as being one of the worst sounding engines ever made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJxkIEKG-Ug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4El8z8Jkc
Why? It's coarse, buzzy, and about as melodious as a Beastie Boys song.
Last one sounds exactly like a gas power weed whacker
Finally found one doing a pull:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsXT1pUdwCA&feature=related
Much better.
another piece of crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1_OKkZzp4
A Passat, who would have thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1E6aS7QXVQ
Quote from: TBR on September 13, 2008, 06:41:17 PM
A Passat, who would have thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1E6aS7QXVQ
what a shitbox
Viper V10 has always sounded terrible. Sounds exactly like a straight six a la Mopar 225.
Quote from: TBR on September 13, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
Finally found one doing a pull:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsXT1pUdwCA&feature=related
Much better.
That sounds stock.
Which means it's pretty slow.
Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVm6rGxDvsk&feature=related
Quote from: GoCougs on September 13, 2008, 06:54:39 PM
Viper V10 has always sounded terrible. Sounds exactly like a straight six a la Mopar 225.
You're wrong, and what the hell is wrong with a straight six sound?
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 13, 2008, 06:55:43 PM
That sounds stock.
Which means it's pretty slow.
It does and it would be, but I think the two posted links would sound fine under load.
Quote from: TBR on September 13, 2008, 06:58:58 PM
It does and it would be, but I think the two posted links would sound fine under load.
A ported rotary still doesn't sound very good under load, IMO.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 13, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
A ported rotary still doesn't sound very good under load, IMO.
Unfortunately I can't find any clips to hear. You're probably right, if I had my pick of RX7s I would just turbo a '85 GSL-SE.
But, in my experience most small displacement engines sound raspy when you're just revving for the fun of it.
I'd also add the Cummins diesel Rams with custom exhaust. Probably the worst ever.
Even Silverado and F-Superduty diesels with custom exhausts sound terrible.
Quote from: GoCougs on September 13, 2008, 06:54:39 PM
Viper V10 has always sounded terrible. Sounds exactly like a straight six a la Mopar 225.
1. It is impossible that a V10 could sound like a straight six
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nKU8v-cfQc
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSG2lrw_tVE
Quote from: GoCougs on September 13, 2008, 07:02:19 PM
I'd also add the Cummins diesel Rams with custom exhaust. Probably the worst ever.
Even Silverado and F-Superduty diesels with custom exhausts sound terrible.
Depends on the exhaust. Most of them are too loud, but every once in a while you'll hear one that's just a bit louder than stock and they sound awesome.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 13, 2008, 06:58:06 PM
You're wrong, and what the hell is wrong with a straight six sound?
I'm right, and they sound terrible (that is, the 5,000 RPM old-school Detroit straight sixes - Mopar 225, Ford 300, Chevy 250 et al.)
Did you listen to any of the posted videos?
Quote from: GoCougs on September 13, 2008, 07:02:19 PM
I'd also add the Cummins diesel Rams with custom exhaust. Probably the worst ever.
Even Silverado and F-Superduty diesels with custom exhausts sound terrible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqw31HGJrak
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 13, 2008, 06:58:06 PM
You're wrong, and what the hell is wrong with a straight six sound?
If anything, I'd expect a Viper to sound like an I5, not an I6 (especially since on older models, each exhaust served only one bank of cylinders, no crossover pipe).
And the only diesels I've ever heard that sounded good were 2-strokes.
Nominations:
2000 Ford Econoline 4.0L V6.......really likes to whine and moan. Does not sound very authoritative.
Chrysler 3.8L, also not very authortative, and has that annoying plastic-sounding crunch and squeak whenever you stop or change gear.
The likelihood of a Viper V10 sounding like an I5 is about the same odds as your average V8 sounding like an I4...
The V10 UPS-truckiness is a result of its odd firing due to common crank pins and 90 degree bank separation. I surmise that odd fire V-style engines are non-existent these days.
The Dodge V10 ended up this way as the first generation was the decades-old 360 V8 plus two cylinders - cementing the common pin crank design and 90 deg cylinder bank separation (which will result in an even fire V8).
Don't take this as to harsh a criticism - I'm a Mopar guy at heart, and had it not been for the compromises borne from leveraging the 360 V8 we'd likely would have never seen a Dodge Viper, but they sound like a UPS truck, and will until Dodge goes even fire.
I have no great love for any inline 4 engine, particularly of the Honda variety. I also don't think that inline 6 engines sound that great. Every time an older BMW cruises past I look out for a Jeep Cherokee (sorry 93JC, but that is not an attractive sound).
Quote from: GoCougs on September 13, 2008, 09:47:51 PM
The likelihood of a Viper V10 sounding like an I5 is about the same odds as your average V8 sounding like an I4...
The V10 UPS-truckiness is a result of its odd firing due to common crank pins and 90 degree bank separation. I surmise that odd fire V-style engines are non-existent these days.
The Dodge V10 ended up this way as the first generation was the decades-old 360 V8 plus two cylinders - cementing the common pin crank design and 90 deg cylinder bank separation (which will result in an even fire V8).
Don't take this as to harsh a criticism - I'm a Mopar guy at heart, and had it not been for the compromises borne from leveraging the 360 V8 we'd likely would have never seen a Dodge Viper, but they sound like a UPS truck, and will until Dodge goes even fire.
We've posted three different sound clips that prove otherwise.
Quote from: R-inge on September 13, 2008, 10:17:14 PM
I have no great love for any inline 4 engine, particularly of the Honda variety. I also don't think that inline 6 engines sound that great. Every time an older BMW cruises past I look out for a Jeep Cherokee (sorry 93JC, but that is not an attractive sound).
I tend to agree about Honda I4s. A cheap ebay intake on mine made a huge difference under load. Still sounds like crap just revving for fun.
Quote from: R-inge on September 13, 2008, 10:17:14 PM
I have no great love for any inline 4 engine, particularly of the Honda variety. I also don't think that inline 6 engines sound that great. Every time an older BMW cruises past I look out for a Jeep Cherokee (sorry 93JC, but that is not an attractive sound).
I think inline six engines sound great.
Not every inline six engine makes a coarse grunt like the AMC 4.0L.
Quote from: TBR on September 13, 2008, 06:41:17 PM
A Passat, who would have thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1E6aS7QXVQ
That doesn't sound bad, and you can't tell much from that anyway.
Hell, my 2.0T sounds pretty weedy revving unloaded, but when you're getting on it, it actually sounds pretty good. Although, I must say, it's probably the worst sounding of any of the cars I've owned. The 1.8T had people turning heads, but I don't think anyone's noticed this much. The E's V6 was snarly and melodious as you really got on it in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, but otherwise it was pretty silent. The Boxster....well, do I need to say anything?
Probably the worst sound I can recall at this moment was from the fart can muffler that the previous owner installed on the Miata I once owned shortly. First thing I did was order a cheap OEM muffler on ebay, and was extremely thankful for its quick arrival. I had to shake my head and scoff out loud when I took a good look at the custom piping the previous owner had installed for the Pep Boys muffler to fit. The bend was so poorly fabricated, there was no way it was helping the poor little engine breathe any easier. It looked like a drinking straw that wasn't made to bend, but forced to bend anyways. And it sounded even worse. Like someone continuously burping into your ear just to piss you off. And I like to think I'm pretty forgiving on exhaust sounds. I grew to like the farm tractor soundtrack my old Volvo 240 made, and found amusement in the "putt-putt" sound that came out of the old Altima my parents had when it was on its last legs and lost compression in one of the cylinders (my mom and sister also thought it was cute).
Another sound I actually hate, although it's not a car sound, are the straight-piped Harley Davidsons when the douchebag of a rider fancies himself a Billy Badass and gets on the throttle right next to your car with the windows down. It's just like when your jackass of a "friend" decides it'd be funny to fart in your face.
Quote from: R-inge on September 13, 2008, 10:17:14 PM
I have no great love for any inline 4 engine, particularly of the Honda variety. I also don't think that inline 6 engines sound that great. Every time an older BMW cruises past I look out for a Jeep Cherokee (sorry 93JC, but that is not an attractive sound).
Everyone has their own taste.
Yours just happens to be bad. :lol:
They sound just fine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXnc6hyDkM0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXnc6hyDkM0)
I'm looking foward to getting flamed by all the hopeless Porsche leg humpers on this forum. :evildude:
The stock 3.8 liter H6's in modern water cooled Porsche 911's sound like crap, the 3.6 in the base Carrera (not GT3 or Turbo, which actually sound good) sounds even crappier than the 3.8 It's not the worst sounding engine in the world, but it's certainly hugely overrated. I was driving behind a 997 C2S and couldn't help noticing how uninspiring it sounded at basically all revs. It goes from this congested croak at low speeds, to a mournful groaning at midrange and finally to a nasal whine at redline. A few years back I was with a few friends on a test drive of a 997 C2S and it was no more inspiring from the inside.
Here is what I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTz1jrgTSA&feature=related
And another one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLFIg4c_-gs&feature=related
Here's a lowly Accord by comparision. The Porsche only sounds marginally more stirring, and only really at the top end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K-NeUAPOC8&feature=related
I guess you can say it's smooth, but it certainly doesn't make my hairs stand on end like some other high performance engines do, mostly because it sounds like a 6 banger (because it is) and certainly doesn't stack up to V8's of the other cars in it's class.
Here is the R8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXC6d-MLefE&feature=related
it's just so rev happy for a V8, heard one roar past a while ago, and it was pretty awesome.
Here is the M3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MCy_iMvdlE
Again that BMW throaty V8 gives it awesome character when driving by. I'm surprised how well they are selling, as I've seen about 8 already.
Of course the V8 in the Vantage sounds amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH8mkMMdyOE&feature=related
Fast forward to about 50 seconds into the video. There is a local black AMV8 owned by an older gentlemen that I run into from time to time, and I love hearing him get on it.
And everyone says the GT-R doesn't sound inspiring, but judging from my two rare encounters with one (just seeing and hearing one roar off the opposite direction, no street races of course :mask:) it sounds pretty good, and from this video it sounds rather decent from behind the wheel too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dYSA3FtIC4
Obviously none of the audio recording is of the best quality, but it's enough to get the gist of it.
Here is the Driver's Republic track video of the Aston, R8, new 911 and GTR. Recorded with the same equipment under the same conditions.
http://www.drivers-republic.com/dr_tv/index.cfm?videoid=ae4bbc2e3a7349c9aba594c58978034e&area=features
The Porsche is postively muted compared to the roaring Aston and the singing R8. The GT-R is similarly subdued, but at least it's got the hissing turbos and screaming gearbox to give it a racecar like dubbing.
Now bring on the flames. :lol:
I agree that the Porche's engine doesn't sound all that great at all.
+1
I think the Accord V6 sounded much better actually. :mask:
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 14, 2008, 12:18:26 AM
I agree that the Porche's engine doesn't sound all that great at all.
ORLY? :orly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbGuKKYtqtI
I'd like to say that unless you're revving the piss out of it, the BMW 4.0 M3 V8 and the V10 from the M5/6 sound like ass.
The Captiva's 3.2 V6 produces an awful high-pitched noise, and the early LS1s in low-spec Commodores are remarkably underwhelming.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on September 13, 2008, 10:36:45 PM
I think inline six engines sound great.
Not every inline six engine makes a coarse grunt like the AMC 4.0L.
The 4.0 I6 of '94-'97 Falcon XR6s sounds marvellous - deep, throaty and rumbly, and the new XR6 Turbos aren't half bad, either.
I too am not a big fan of the Porsche flat-6 exhaust note. I wouldn't go so far as to say it sounds bad, but it does sounds extremely plebeian - certainly not befitting a premium performance car.
Quote from: GoCougs on September 13, 2008, 09:47:51 PM
The likelihood of a Viper V10 sounding like an I5 is about the same odds as your average V8 sounding like an I4...
I'd wager a flat plane V8 with no crossover pipes between exhausts and side pipes (like the Viper) would probably sound quite a bit like an I4 as it drove alongside you.
Quote from: Minpin on September 14, 2008, 12:46:06 AM
ORLY? :orly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbGuKKYtqtI
That's a GT3 RS with exhaust work. :rolleyes:
565 already said the GT3 RS sounds good...
Quote from: Minpin on September 14, 2008, 12:46:06 AM
ORLY? :orly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbGuKKYtqtI
That isn't stock. :rolleyes: Just about any car can be made to sound fantastic with a good exhaust system. I'm talkin' stock Porsches.
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 14, 2008, 11:11:33 AM
That isn't stock. :rolleyes: Just about any car can be made to sound fantastic with a good exhaust system. I'm talkin' stock Porsches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRa95gwGKmI
both sound reasonbly delicious to me
s2000 straight pipes sound like awesome d00dz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X8ZICWagyM
i think this is a R6 or a gsxr600. sounds better than a s2k at least http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ynZCM_fuw
Quote from: NACar on September 14, 2008, 11:19:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRa95gwGKmI
both sound reasonbly delicious to me
Sorry, but they just don't do it for me. The second one definitely does sound better, but to me it's just nothing special.
I always liked the exhausts of the more aggressive VQ's though I know they aren't everyone's favorite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSHNS-G8X4&feature=related
Quote from: 565 on September 14, 2008, 11:46:43 AM
I always liked the exhausts of the more aggressive VQ's though I know they aren't everyone's favorite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSHNS-G8X4&feature=related
Peep's just be hatin 'cuz they think like the only sound that should come out the tailpipe of a car is a 5.0 'stang with FLowmastas.
Toyota Pious.
I don't know which annoys me more - the sound of the car itself or the whiny self-righteous douchebag driving it.
I seriously think the worst sounding V6's on the planet are the GM pushrod ones, such as the 3800, no matter what kind of exhaust is on it. It's just not a fun sound in any possible way, and it doesn't help they they are always attached to 4spd autos that make them drone constantly with that annoying pulsating tone.
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 14, 2008, 12:18:26 AM
I agree that the Porche's engine doesn't sound all that great at all.
I will continue to pray for your salvation.
Quote from: R-inge on September 14, 2008, 09:10:36 PM
I will continue to pray for your salvation.
They sound too quiet... I like the rumbly bumblyness of Corvettes and muscle cars better.
Where's the video that Pirate kept spamming of the black Corvette on the dyno? :lol:
I also like the high pitched noise of rotaries and superbikes. :praise:
Porsches just sound too dull though.
I really don't like the hollow HORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR sound of a VQ.
Quote from: 565 on September 14, 2008, 11:46:43 AM
I always liked the exhausts of the more aggressive VQ's though I know they aren't everyone's favorite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSHNS-G8X4&feature=related
That is very lovely. Some of the criticism I have heard is that it doesn't sound nearly as good from inside the car as out. Guess the exhaust noise is blocked by sound deadening so all you get is intake noise.
Quote from: TBR on September 14, 2008, 09:37:58 PM
That is very lovely. Some of the criticism I have heard is that it doesn't sound nearly as good from inside the car as out. Guess the exhaust noise is blocked by sound deadening so all you get is intake noise.
Hm, false.
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 14, 2008, 09:46:43 PM
Hm, false.
That's just what I have heard, I haven't had the pleasure of driving one.
Neither have I, but my brother has that pleasure (a G35), and I've ridden in it many times. You can hear the exhaust just fine. Such a sweet, porous, throaty, milky sort of sound.
The 350Z coupe is pin drop quiet on the inside, and I don't remember the Maxima. 350Zs sound great from the outside though.
Quote from: thecarnut on September 14, 2008, 10:39:32 AM
That's a GT3 RS with exhaust work. :rolleyes:
565 already said the GT3 RS sounds good...
Quote from: thecarnut on September 14, 2008, 09:13:48 PM
They sound too quiet... I like the rumbly bumblyness of Corvettes and muscle cars better.
Where's the video that Pirate kept spamming of the black Corvette on the dyno? :lol:
I also like the high pitched noise of rotaries and superbikes. :praise:
Porsches just sound too dull though.
So then the black corvette that pirate loves to post is stock? It is this video here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRqvcLrE8Y8
Honestly if you're going to roll your eyes at me don't go back on what you said just a few posts later.
Regardless, what difference does it make if it has aftermarket pipes? It is still the same engine, which is what this debate was originally about. Nobody said anything that the engine had to be stock.
Quote from: thecarnut on September 14, 2008, 09:13:48 PM
They sound too quiet... I like the rumbly bumblyness of Corvettes and muscle cars better.
Porsches just sound too dull though.
Really? This sounds a lot like my old 2 liter, dual carbed (with three barrels per carb) 911S. And all I did to mine was remove the airbox so the carbs could sing, remove the rev limiter, and run a Bursch exhaust... The older aircooled Porsches sounded pretty good to me.
(http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2792292c.jpg)
I hate how cabs sound. By association I'm not too fond of cross plane V8s, though my dad's M45 is fun otherwise around 100MPH
Quote from: Minpin on September 14, 2008, 10:58:21 PM
So then the black corvette that pirate loves to post is stock? It is this video here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRqvcLrE8Y8
Honestly if you're going to roll your eyes at me don't go back on what you said just a few posts later.
Regardless, what difference does it make if it has aftermarket pipes? It is still the same engine, which is what this debate was originally about. Nobody said anything that the engine had to be stock.
I'm saying I prefer the rumbly sort of sound that Corvette makes. :nutty;
And pretty much any car with some exhaust work can sound good. And 565 was talking about the regular 911, not the GT3 RS, which he already said sounded good stock.
I think I like the sound of rougher engine better (to a point).
To me, a more modern straight six sounds downright generic compared to the burbly L28ET in my car.
When I removed the airbox on my VStar 650 and installed two pod filters, it was the most god-awful noise. Those were promptly removed, and the original box reinstalled. I liked the straight pipes, though. Really.It was nice to actually be able to hear the motor from inside my helmet, which I can't so much on my EX500, even after I gutted the stock mufflers. :mask:
Quote from: Raza link=topic=15828.msg880945#msg880945 date=1221450852
The 350Z coupe is pin drop quiet on the inside, and I don't remember the Maxima. 350Zs sound great from the outside though.
They're not the loudest cars but they're no where near quiet. I just drove a Cayman S and I would bet it is only marginally, if at all, louder on the inside than a Z. I would say it's just as loud as any car in its class and its definently much louder than any mainstream car.
Quote from: JYODER240 on September 19, 2008, 10:48:02 AM
They're not the loudest cars but they're no where near quiet. I just drove a Cayman S and I would bet it is only marginally, if at all, louder on the inside than a Z. I would say it's just as loud as any car in its class and its definently much louder than any mainstream car.
Disagree completely. If the Cayman is like my Boxster was, then it's probably fucking loud. My Box was louder with the top up than down.
My Passat was louder inside compared to the 350 at full throttle.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=15828.msg890455#msg890455 date=1222723791
Disagree completely. If the Cayman is like my Boxster was, then it's probably fucking loud. My Box was louder with the top up than down.
My Passat was louder inside compared to the 350 at full throttle.
Per Road and Track:
350Z at idle: 47dBA, at max 1st: 82dBA, at 70: 75dBA
Box S @ idle: 56dBA, at max 1st: 79dBA, at 70: 78dBA
C2S at idle: 53dBA, at max 1st: 82dBA, at 70: 75dBA
Z4 3,0Si @ idle: 47dBA, at max 1st: 76dBA, at 70: 73dBA
Vette @ idle: 53dBA, at max 1st: 83dBA, at 70: 76dBA
Viper @ idle: 64dBA, at max 1st: 87dbA, at 70: 82dBA
Unless their was something very wrong with the Z you drove or your Passat was louder than a Viper I don't see where you're coming from.
worst sound was a Jeep Patriot I had as a rental for the day... i thought the engine was gonna aspl0de anytime the revs were over 2500
Quote from: r0tor on October 01, 2008, 11:17:07 AM
worst sound was a Jeep Patriot I had as a rental for the day... i thought the engine was gonna aspl0de anytime the revs were over 2500
LOL.
You should hear the 3.9L OHV V6 in my dad's Dakota at 4700 rpm (redline).
Quote from: JYODER240 on October 01, 2008, 10:37:36 AM
Per Road and Track:
350Z at idle: 47dBA, at max 1st: 82dBA, at 70: 75dBA
Box S @ idle: 56dBA, at max 1st: 79dBA, at 70: 78dBA
C2S at idle: 53dBA, at max 1st: 82dBA, at 70: 75dBA
Z4 3,0Si @ idle: 47dBA, at max 1st: 76dBA, at 70: 73dBA
Vette @ idle: 53dBA, at max 1st: 83dBA, at 70: 76dBA
Viper @ idle: 64dBA, at max 1st: 87dbA, at 70: 82dBA
Unless their was something very wrong with the Z you drove or your Passat was louder than a Viper I don't see where you're coming from.
I drove three Zs. Two of them were really quiet. The other was a convertible.
Compared to Crosswire's M3, Yoder's 350Z was just mute inside. It was really weird getting out of the M and riding in the Z. They're just really quiet, imo, too.
Quote from: JYODER240 on October 01, 2008, 10:37:36 AM
Per Road and Track:
350Z at idle: 47dBA, at max 1st: 82dBA, at 70: 75dBA
Box S @ idle: 56dBA, at max 1st: 79dBA, at 70: 78dBA
C2S at idle: 53dBA, at max 1st: 82dBA, at 70: 75dBA
Z4 3,0Si @ idle: 47dBA, at max 1st: 76dBA, at 70: 73dBA
Vette @ idle: 53dBA, at max 1st: 83dBA, at 70: 76dBA
Viper @ idle: 64dBA, at max 1st: 87dbA, at 70: 82dBA
Unless their was something very wrong with the Z you drove or your Passat was louder than a Viper I don't see where you're coming from.
dB readings often don't jive with personal impressions.
Quote from: ChrisV on September 15, 2008, 05:26:48 AM
Really? This sounds a lot like my old 2 liter, dual carbed (with three barrels per carb) 911S. And all I did to mine was remove the airbox so the carbs could sing, remove the rev limiter, and run a Bursch exhaust... The older aircooled Porsches sounded pretty good to me.
Perhaps he was speaking of water cooled engines, like 565.
I heard and saw an old whale-tail 911 Turbo go by earlier today. I don't care for the water-cooled ones, but the 1980s air cooled 911s sound great - whirry burble down low and jeezy bejeebus everywhere else.