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Title: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Vinsanity on February 09, 2009, 11:52:31 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/09/what-if-the-dodge-viper-were-around-in-1967/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/09/what-if-the-dodge-viper-were-around-in-1967/)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/02/67_viper_580.jpg)

Want. :wub:
Title: Re: 1967 Doge Viper
Post by: ChrisV on February 09, 2009, 12:02:42 PM
It was around. It just happened to be sold at Ford dealerships. ;) (The Viper came into being when Lutz was driving around in his Cobra replica and wishing that someone made a new version with a warranty).

But that rendering sure is a beaut!
Title: Re: 1967 Doge Viper
Post by: SVT666 on February 09, 2009, 12:21:28 PM
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 09, 2009, 11:52:31 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/09/what-if-the-dodge-viper-were-around-in-1967/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/09/what-if-the-dodge-viper-were-around-in-1967/)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/02/67_viper_580.jpg)

Want. :wub:
OMG, SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE A KIT VERSION OF THAT!!!  I'm sorry for yelling, but I'm hoping someone hears me.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: 2o6 on February 09, 2009, 02:38:38 PM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Raza on February 09, 2009, 02:41:46 PM
Convertible version?
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 09, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
Fugly.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: S204STi on February 09, 2009, 02:43:51 PM
Quote from: NACar on February 09, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
Fugly.

Ur MOM!

/bangheadshot
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: S204STi on February 09, 2009, 02:44:05 PM
Very cool rendering.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 09, 2009, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: R-inge on February 09, 2009, 02:43:51 PM
Ur MOM!

/bangheadshot

Ok I'm kidding. That is pure sex on wheels. I have to go change my panties now.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on February 09, 2009, 02:49:03 PM
'67 Corvette looks better.  :huh:
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Sigma Projects on February 09, 2009, 03:01:41 PM
looks alright. Too bad it's not real though. I think I'd like it more if the rear lights were done up a bit more and if the rear fenders weren't too much like the corvettes front fenders. They're just too high up for my tastes.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Vinsanity on February 09, 2009, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: ChrisV on February 09, 2009, 12:02:42 PM
It was around. It just happened to be sold at Ford dealerships. ;)

That's what I was thinking when I first read the headline, but this is a lovely styling exercise. This has much more of a "sophisticated GT" flair than the Cobra or the Stingray.

Would've been cool to imagine what a 60's era V10 would be like, though :mrcool:
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: SVT666 on February 09, 2009, 04:41:55 PM
It's definitely sexy, but it's not what I would picture a '67 Viper to look like.  When I think of a '67 Viper, I think of the Cobra and Daytona Coupe.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Tave on February 09, 2009, 07:30:29 PM
I was expecting a thread about the Cobra.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Rupert on February 09, 2009, 07:50:09 PM
It's just a little heavy on the 'Vette. But I'd want one!
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: sandertheshark on February 09, 2009, 09:46:06 PM
I've been wondering for many a year what a Dodge Viper would look like if had been made in the '60s to compete with the C2 'Vette.  I'm pleased with this answer.

Tons more wallpapers:  http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/2009/top-2009-Viper-Concept-1967-by-Rafael-Reston.htm
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: the Teuton on February 09, 2009, 11:01:56 PM
It looks like a boutique Corvette.  The Daytona coupe is probably closer to what the Viper would have looked like.  This is not to say that this rendering is ugly because it isn't.  It's downright gorgeous.

But it looks like an Italian Corvette.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: 280Z Turbo on February 09, 2009, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: the Teuton on February 09, 2009, 11:01:56 PM
It looks like a boutique Corvette.  The Daytona coupe is probably closer to what the Viper would have looked like.  This is not to say that this rendering is ugly because it isn't.  It's downright gorgeous.

But it looks like an Italian Corvette.

That's way too European looking for late 60's Chrysler. It should have a shaker hoodscoop, a black hood, stripes, badges, a 426 hemi, and bright orange paint.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: MrH on February 09, 2009, 11:13:57 PM
Well, I think that's rather ugly.  You guys can take that, I'll take a Panamera. :praise:
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: the Teuton on February 09, 2009, 11:26:42 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on February 09, 2009, 11:08:36 PM
That's way too European looking for late 60's Chrysler. It should have a shaker hoodscoop, a black hood, stripes, badges, a 426 hemi, and bright orange paint.

1967 is past the Exner era, isn't it?
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Byteme on February 10, 2009, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 09, 2009, 11:52:31 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/09/what-if-the-dodge-viper-were-around-in-1967/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/09/what-if-the-dodge-viper-were-around-in-1967/)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/02/67_viper_580.jpg)

Want. :wub:

Interesting but thinking back on what The Chrysler Corp offered back in 1967 I susect you would have seen something that looked more like a dodge dart or Plymouth Baracuda.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Vinsanity on February 10, 2009, 10:37:41 AM
What's tricky about this exercise is that as you all remember, the original Viper looked nothing like the other Dodges and Chryslers that existed at the time (e.g. http://www.carspin.net/forums/index.php?topic=17371.msg991292#msg991292 (http://www.carspin.net/forums/index.php?topic=17371.msg991292#msg991292)). The same can be said of the current Viper. From what I can tell, this design is meant to take the current car and extrapolate it into the engineering and production standards of 40 years ago. Although it's hard to imagine a Euro-styled GT evolving into the beast we know from the 1990's and 2000's.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Tave on February 10, 2009, 10:39:55 AM
The corvette hasn't exactly been lock-step with the rest of GM designs, either.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: ChrisV on February 10, 2009, 11:20:36 AM
Interesting that Ford did the same thing with the 427 Cobra chassis in the '60s and came up with the Cougar II and Cobra II:

(http://www.special-classics.com/Archive/prototyp/63fdcoup.jpg)

Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: 280Z Turbo on February 10, 2009, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: ChrisV on February 10, 2009, 11:20:36 AM
Interesting that Ford did the same thing with the 427 Cobra chassis in the '60s and came up with the Cougar II and Cobra II:

(http://www.special-classics.com/Archive/prototyp/63fdcoup.jpg)



That would make a lot of lift.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Catman on February 10, 2009, 05:58:29 PM
Love the color. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: omicron on February 11, 2009, 10:37:54 AM
Quote from: ChrisV on February 10, 2009, 11:20:36 AM
Interesting that Ford did the same thing with the 427 Cobra chassis in the '60s and came up with the Cougar II and Cobra II:

(http://www.special-classics.com/Archive/prototyp/63fdcoup.jpg)



I've always liked the AC Frua, too:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Ac_Frua_Roadster.JPG/800px-Ac_Frua_Roadster.JPG)
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: FoMoJo on February 11, 2009, 10:51:24 AM
At first glance, it looked like a retro version of a Studebaker Avanti...
(http://www.hubcapcafe.com/i/2000/branson/stude6301.JPG)
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Nethead on February 12, 2009, 08:52:33 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on February 11, 2009, 10:51:24 AM
At first glance, it looked like a retro version of a Studebaker Avanti...
(http://www.hubcapcafe.com/i/2000/branson/stude6301.JPG)

FoMoJo:  Good call, Fo!  It  DOES  resemble an Avanti--especially aft of the doors!
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: ChrisV on February 12, 2009, 08:55:32 AM
Well, it woudn't be a retro version of the avanti, unless the avanti was newer, i would think.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Nethead on February 12, 2009, 09:02:19 AM
Quote from: ChrisV on February 10, 2009, 11:20:36 AM
Interesting that Ford did the same thing with the 427 Cobra chassis in the '60s and came up with the Cougar II and Cobra II:

(http://www.special-classics.com/Archive/prototyp/63fdcoup.jpg)

ChrisV:  Nice to see pics of the Bordinat Cobras again!  IIRC, weren't the Bordinat Cobra concepts powered by 289s?  It's been too long.

They were great-looking in their day, but like the first Stingrays (which I thought looked better than the Bordinats), that high front end packed plenty of air underneath it and woulda had the same front end lift problems.  Those token bumpers were gonna be a problem, too, if anyone had ever seriously considered making production Cobras from the Bordinats.  Evidently, they never did consider making production Cobras from the Bordinats, so one has to ask "What were they thinking?"  A non-Shelby Ford sportscar, perhaps?  A Mercury or Lincoln sportscar, perhaps?

Didja ever read why the Bordinats remained just concepts?
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: FoMoJo on February 12, 2009, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: ChrisV on February 12, 2009, 08:55:32 AM
Well, it woudn't be a retro version of the avanti, unless the avanti was newer, i would think.
What I said may not have been very clear.  What I meant was; it has a design reminiscent of the Avanti, hence, to me, it looks like what a retro version of the Avanti may look like.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 12, 2009, 02:52:23 PM
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 09, 2009, 11:52:31 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/09/what-if-the-dodge-viper-were-around-in-1967/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/09/what-if-the-dodge-viper-were-around-in-1967/)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/02/67_viper_580.jpg)

Want. :wub:

Beautiful rendering, but not really the answer to the question asked, I don't think. That looks like "what if Chrysler had decided to compete with ferrari or Lamborghini in 1967" to me.

That car is much too polished and GT-like to be a Viper.
Title: Re: 1967 Dodge Viper
Post by: Raza on February 12, 2009, 03:33:35 PM
Quote from: omicron on February 11, 2009, 10:37:54 AM
I've always liked the AC Frua, too:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Ac_Frua_Roadster.JPG/800px-Ac_Frua_Roadster.JPG)

That's beautiful.