:lol:
Click on the Weighed Down for the video.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__9TTj0s27Vk/SYsp9__FMLI/AAAAAAAAAyA/N3UiuxlR9Xc/s400/RioEdmonton.jpg)
QuoteSmall cars + Heavy people = Mechanical issues?
We all know that society as a whole is getting heavier, bigger, fatter. I know several larger people who will freely admit that they are not comfortable in a small car because they're bigger, and that's fine.
Now, out of Edmonton, Alberta Canada comes the story of a woman who says the local Kia dealership allegedly told her the reason her Kia Rio wasn't holding an alignment was because of her weight. The woman said the dealership's solution, after two alignments failed to correct the problem, was to have her sit in the car while the vehicle was getting an alignment, which she found embarrassing and humiliating.
Kia denies the allegation that the dealership suggested she be in the car during the alignment, but did admit there were problems with the situation. The dealership, Kia West Edmonton acknowledged, "The person handling the situation made some serious mistakes, and didn't handle it in the proper fashion."
Kia did conclude that the alignment was not caused by the woman's weight, and there was indeed an issue with the car itself. Kia has said it will work with the woman to fix the issue.
The woman hopes her story will "make manufacturers more aware of our growing society."
Below is a link to the video from Global Edmonton.
No doubt, a larger vehicle isn't going to be effected by the weight of an individual as much as a Kia Rio or other subcompact. However, should manufacturers make vehicles, especially smaller cars, more mechanically stout to accommodate our ever-enlarging society?
Let's hear your opinion in the comments section ...
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As an Albertan I don't know whether to be embarrassed for this fatteh, or proud of the guys who told her her car was going out of alignment because she is a fatteh.
:lol:
That's nothing new. My 1969 E-type service manual recommends having 160 pounds in the driver's seat during while the front end is being aligned.
Quote from: Byteme on February 10, 2009, 11:46:03 AM
That's nothing new. My 1969 E-type service manual recommends having 160 pounds in the driver's seat during while the front end is being aligned.
I don't think 160 lb would even help in this case.
Quote from: Byteme on February 10, 2009, 11:46:03 AM
That's nothing new. My 1969 E-type service manual recommends having 160 pounds in the driver's seat during while the front end is being aligned.
Exactly. The best way to align a car is with the driver inside.
Quote from: NomisR on February 10, 2009, 11:49:05 AM
I don't think 160 lb would even help in this case.
Probably not. Of course, it'll be Kia's fault when the car throws the crank on the ground after dragging her fat ass around. :lol:
Poor car. :cry:
Funny story though. :lol:
So...what does this lady expect car companies to do? It's physics. Let's just make it an option to get a counterweight in the right side of the car to offset your body! You can even get it customized to your actual body weight!!!!
Only in America Canada. :devil:
She can probably do this as a counter weight, they probably weigh the same too
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Quote from: giant_mtb on February 10, 2009, 12:09:10 PM
So...what does this lady expect car companies to do? It's physics. Let's just make it an option to get a counterweight in the right side of the car to offset your body! You can even get it customized to your actual body weight!!!!
Here's an aftermarket oppotunity.
Ballast tanks. One on each side of the car. Filled with water with a couple pumps to move the load back and forth.
"Kia did conclude that the alignment was not caused by the woman's weight, and there was indeed an issue with the car itself."
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 02:10:47 PM
"Kia did conclude that the alignment was not caused by the woman's weight, and there was indeed an issue with the car itself."
Translation: "Oh shit, I didn't think this would make the news."
Oh come on! Look at that picture: she's not even a deuce. If my 200 pound frame isn't pulling my Aveo out of alignment, then her paltry 170 lbs isn't putting a fucking dent in a Kia.
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 02:23:46 PM
Oh come on! Look at that picture: she's not even a deuce. If my 200 pound frame isn't pulling my Aveo out of alignment, then her paltry 170 lbs isn't putting a fucking dent in a Kia.
Is she only 170? she's definitely bigger than I am. Looks more like 200s. And another thing they haven't considered, maybe the tires are heat cycled out due to the extra load on the driver's side. That would cause it too.
I think the point is that she's overweight for her size but not all that heavy in the grand scheme of things.
Quote from: NomisR on February 10, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
Is she only 170? she's definitely bigger than I am. Looks more like 200s. And another thing they haven't considered, maybe the tires are heat cycled out due to the extra load on the driver's side. That would cause it too.
What sort of Kia is that, a Spectra?
She can barely see over the rooftop. She must be 5'4"! She has a belly and a big ass, but nothing too extraordinary.
I'd put money on the fact that she weighs under 200.
Quote from: ifcar on February 10, 2009, 02:45:20 PM
I think the point is that she's overweight for her size but not all that heavy in the grand scheme of things.
Precisely. Let's ask hounddog whether or not he misaligns his car simply by sitting in it.
I've had a 300 pound dude in the Aveo, sitting directly behind me. The alignment is fine.
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 02:23:46 PM
Oh come on! Look at that picture: she's not even a deuce. If my 200 pound frame isn't pulling my Aveo out of alignment, then her paltry 170 lbs isn't putting a fucking dent in a Kia.
:confused: Watch the video where you get a better look at her and then get back to me on that.
I'd say 250 MINIMUM, closer to 300.
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 02:47:14 PM
What sort of Kia is that, a Spectra?
Rio. Aveo size instead of Cobalt size.
Quote from: Cobra93 on February 10, 2009, 02:48:21 PM
:confused: Watch the video where you get a better look at her and then get back to me on that.
Watched it, and my opinion stands. 200 pounds is BIG for a woman, especially a woman that short.
QuoteI'd say 250 MINIMUM, closer to 300.
Preposterous.
Do you know a lot of 300 pounders? I know a guy who weighs that much. He's 6'3" and looks twice as big as that lady.
FWIW, a Kia Rio5 is 4'10" tall, which puts her at a few inches over 5 feet. She is an extremely short lady.
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
Watched it, and my opinion stands. 200 pounds is BIG for a woman, especially a woman that short.
Preposterous.
Do you know a lot of 300 pounders? I know a guy who weighs that much. He's 6'3" and looks twice as big as that lady.
Then don't take a job at the circus. You'll give away all the stuffed animals :lol:
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 02:23:46 PM
Oh come on! Look at that picture: she's not even a deuce. If my 200 pound frame isn't pulling my Aveo out of alignment, then her paltry 170 lbs isn't putting a fucking dent in a Kia.
Dude that woman is tremendous... Oprah weighs 200# and this chick is definitely not in her weight class
Which Oprah are we talking about?
Her:
(http://www.ruggedelegantliving.com/a/images/Oprah.Winfrey.2005.Top.Ten.jpg)
That girl ain't 200 pounds.
Or her:
(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080921/293.winfrey.oprah.lc.092108.jpg)
That's a lot closer to the woman from the story. Not to mention I think Oprah is taller.
She's 5'6.5" Here she is at 200 lbs.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/ivdc15.jpg)
You still think that sweater encrusted zeppelin in the KIA is 170? :huh:
She sure as shit isn't 300. I'd say right around 200. :huh:
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 03:40:55 PM
She sure as shit isn't 300. I'd say right around 200. :huh:
There's no way I can prove it, since I seriously doubt anyone besides her doctor knows her weight, but I'll tell you this. I personally know a young lady that's 5'2" and has weight problems. At 220 pounds, she was positively waif like in comparison to KIA woman. I would charitably estimate KIA woman at 280 and guarantee I'm much closer than you to the truth.
bullshit
You're telling me that this chubby little girl who can barely see over the top of a Rio weighs as much as Greg Oden or Andrew Bynum?
That's absurd.
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 03:54:07 PM
bullshit
You're telling me that this chubby little girl who can barely see over the top of a Rio weighs as much as Greg Oden or Andrew Bynum?
That's absurd.
Dude, that lady's a ball. Her both the front and back of her lower body looks like a butt..
Dude, she's 2 feet shorter than either of those guys. She would look like an ant next to them.
Not to mention fat weighs less than muscle.
Look at it this way--what's a thin weight for a girl around 5 foot tall? 100-110 pounds? Add a hundred pounds to that, and this is what you get. If I weighed 300 pounds I would look like a ball too.
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 03:54:07 PM
bullshit
You're telling me that this chubby little girl who can barely see over the top of a Rio weighs as much as Greg Oden or Andrew Bynum?
That's absurd.
OK. She's sleek, svelte and sexy. Whatever you say. :rolleyes:
Maybe we should post the video and make a poll in General talk and see what other people think? ;)
Okay, according to the first Google hit, the ideal body weight for a 5'1'' woman is between 100 and 132 pounds. This woman is fat, but she's not twice what she should be.
Perhaps 50 pounds would be a lot of extra fat for a short person to be carrying around, but it still doesn't put her near 200.
Have you people never actually seen a truly fat person?
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 04:00:22 PM
Dude, she's 2 feet shorter than either of those guys. She would look like an ant next to them.
Not to mention fat weighs less than muscle.
Look at it this way--what's a thin weight for a girl around 5 foot tall? 100-110 pounds? Add a hundred pounds to that, and this is what you get. If I weighed 300 pounds I would look like a ball too.
Like I said, she's probably 200lb, either way, she's still fat.
No doubt. My only point was 200 pounds isn't going to knock a car out of alignment.
And according to Kia, it didn't. :huh:
Quote from: Cobra93 on February 10, 2009, 04:12:41 PM
OK. She's sleek, svelte and sexy. Whatever you say. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
200 pounds is BIG for a woman, especially a woman that short.
Quote from: ifcar on February 10, 2009, 04:13:22 PM
Okay, according to the first Google hit, the ideal body weight for a 5'1'' woman is between 100 and 132 pounds. This woman is fat, but she's not twice what she should be.
Perhaps 50 pounds would be a lot of extra fat for a short person to be carrying around, but it still doesn't put her near 200.
Have you people never actually seen a truly fat person?
I've seen plenty, my office is filled with them!
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 04:16:13 PM
No doubt. My only point was 200 pounds isn't going to knock a car out of alignment.
And according to Kia, it didn't. :huh:
Smaller she is, the more concentrated the weight? :huh:
Quote from: ifcar on February 10, 2009, 04:13:22 PM
Okay, according to the first Google hit, the ideal body weight for a 5'1'' woman is between 100 and 132 pounds. This woman is fat, but she's not twice what she should be.
Perhaps 50 pounds would be a lot of extra fat for a short person to be carrying around, but it still doesn't put her near 200.
Have you people never actually seen a truly fat person?
I had a girlfriend that was 5'2" and weighed 110-115 most of the time. She had to buy her clothes in the childrens department. When she bought Levi's jeans they were a size ZERO. Kia girl would make 3 of her. For crying out loud people. Watch the video. She barely fits behind the steering wheel. The car pulls to the left. How many clues do you need? :huh:
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 04:16:13 PM
No doubt. My only point was 200 pounds isn't going to knock a car out of alignment.
And according to Kia, it didn't. :huh:
200 lbs probably won't. But she's not just 200 lbs.
As far as the KIA dealer goes, they were definitely trying to save face.
Quote from: Cobra93 on February 10, 2009, 04:22:12 PM
I had a girlfriend that was 5'2" and weighed 110-115 most of the time. She had to buy her clothes in the childrens department. When she bought Levi's jeans they were a size ZERO. Kia girl would make 3 of her. For crying out loud people. Watch the video. She barely fits behind the steering wheel. The car pulls to the left. How many clues do you need? :huh:
Her stomach was right up against the steering wheel and her arms are thicker than my thighs...
Quote from: Cobra93 on February 10, 2009, 04:22:12 PM
I had a girlfriend that was 5'2" and weighed 110-115 most of the time.
And if she put on 100 fricking pounds, she would look EXACTLY like that. Bone, tissue, organs, muscle, blood, and water are all much more dense than fat.
300 pounds on a 5'2" girl would be astronomically fat.
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 04:34:52 PM
And if she put on 100 fricking pounds, she would look EXACTLY like that. Bone, tissue, organs, muscle, blood, and water are all much more dense than fat.
300 pounds on a 5'2" girl would be astronomically fat.
Something like this? (http://insidetheiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/steelersfans2.jpg)
Watch a lawsuit come out of this. I'm thinking emotional distress with a heaping tablespoon of "irreparable mental damage" thrown in for flavor.
Seriously...the only one to blame for her embarrassment is herself. With cars (small, especially) I would guess that the drivers weight takes a greater tole on the way the car performs, thus the reason why she had to sit in it. It's not their fault she is a Twinkie queen.
The best quote from the article
"The woman hopes her story will "make manufacturers more aware of our growing society."
TranslationThe woman hopes her story of the worlds growing laziness and disregard for personal care will force more law makers and corporations looking for votes and sales to give into gluttonous eating habits and pathetic (read: none) physical care we are growing to regard as normal.
Quote from: NomisR on February 10, 2009, 04:39:24 PM
Something like this? (http://insidetheiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/steelersfans2.jpg)
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m30/Kungfushoe/buttsecks.gif)
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 04:34:52 PM
And if she put on 100 fricking pounds, she would look EXACTLY like that. Bone, tissue, organs, muscle, blood, and water are all much more dense than fat.
300 pounds on a 5'2" girl would be astronomically fat.
You're ignoring the most obvious factor. Fat people have bones and muscle too. In fact, imagine carrying an extra 100 lbs. around all day, every day. Do you think you won't gain muscle mass? Once again, that girl is at least 260 lbs if she's an ounce. Argue all you want. You're still wrong.
Exactly like that.
Quote from: NomisR on February 10, 2009, 04:39:24 PM
Something like this? (http://insidetheiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/steelersfans2.jpg)
Naw, she's clearly no more than 180-185 lbs. :lol:
This woman will never have to go to a gas station again....
http://www.carspin.net/forums/index.php?topic=17555.0
:lol:
Cheers,
Madman of the People
Well i lost altleast 10 pounds laughing my ass off at this thread.
Quote from: Submariner on February 10, 2009, 04:45:24 PM
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m30/Kungfushoe/buttsecks.gif)
LMAO
"It pulls to the left alittle bit"
(http://wcuk.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/225629_fat_guy_in_car.jpg)
I don't know how to respond other than to say this:
I am appalled about all of this politically correct bullshit.
My family has owned several late-1980s to mid-1990s Asian compact cars. They were not designed for big people. My dad is maybe 5'6" and I am 5'7" and we're both a touch under 200 pounds, and we both fit fine in them. On the other hand, I have a friend who is about 6'0" back home and 320ish or so. He's, for lack of a better word, obese. He can not comfortably sit in my car in any seat.
In a modern Japanese or Korean car, we're supposed to accommodate fatasses in subcompact cars. How is that supposed to work? Are we supposed to defy the laws of mass and just say, "Hey, here's a small car, but I'm sure it'll work for you!" One size does not fit all, and it's ridiculous to think it should.
Trucks have big seats for big, brawny workers. That's their target market. Yet, now we're seeing urban cowboys and lesbians eat them up like chocolate. That's fine because they're physically smaller than the seats that were designed for the car.
Over in Japan, the Evo and STI have narrower, more supportive seats, yet here they're wider for our fat asses. They don't even offer the better seats as options here!
What I guess I am trying to say is that if she wanted a car to support her girth, whether this was truly her fault or not, she should do one of two things: shop for a car that better suited her needs or lose some weight.
Instead it is shit like this why eventually all seats, even in sports cars (and currently in Corvettes to some degree) will be flat, wide, and unsupportive like these. The bitch should just buy heavier duty springs and shut the fuck up.
(http://www.cardata.com/images/2009/Nissan/quest_second_row_seats.jpg)
Quote from: the Teuton on February 10, 2009, 05:08:06 PM
The bitch should just buy heavier duty springs and shut the fuck up.
(http://www.cardata.com/images/2009/Nissan/quest_second_row_seats.jpg)
Dude grow up. :rolleyes: It's her
right to be fat. Consequently, it is her
right to bitch about it, and the
duty of everyone around her to conform. However,
no one has the
right to call her out on her weight, because she is part of our "growing society." In fact, the mechanic was wrong to put her in the car to calibrate it to her weight because she may realize she is a lard ass and needs to loose weight. Instead, he should have guessed her weight (making sure to cut whatever he thinks she really is in half, because we don't want to state the obvious) then find weights equal to that amount and put them in the car to calibrate it. And, if she refuses to sit in the car, and he cannot accurately guess her weight (because she will not tell you) and you refuse her service, she should sue because it's discrimination. Jesus...has chairman Obama not taught you anything about modern liberalism?
...capitolist pig.
First of all, this is not the first time I've heard of this happening, and yes her weight was the cause of the issue.
That said, the dealer should have come up with a solution that didn't involve pointing out that she's basically a heifer.
That said, frakkin' hilarious!
Quote from: R-inge on February 10, 2009, 06:25:59 PM
First of all, this is not the first time I've heard of this happening, and yes her weight was the cause of the issue.
That said, the dealer should have come up with a solution that didn't involve pointing out that she's basically a heifer.
No, they shouldn't have. No one should have to work around something just because you may be offended by it,
especially if it's their own doing.
They should have just sneaked about 100 pounds of steel under the passenger seat, covered it with carpet and called it a day.
Actually easier yet they could have just found the biggest guy in service and had him sit in the driver seat while they aligned the car. There was no need to suggest it to her and cause a scene.
Quote from: Submariner on February 10, 2009, 06:28:27 PM
No, they shouldn't have. No one should have to work around something just because you may be offended by it, especially if it's their own doing.
:rolleyes: So there was seriously no better way in your mind to work around it without having to embarrass her? Yes she's fat, yes its funny, but they as a business shouldn't put them selves in that position.
My solution; find another tech (not necessarily a huge one) and stick him in there with a bag of floor-dry on hit lap to simulate the weight as much as possible.
Like I said, LOL but bad move on the dealer's part.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on February 10, 2009, 06:30:19 PM
They should have just sneaked about 100 pounds of steel under the passenger seat, covered it with carpet and called it a day.
Actually easier yet they could have just found the biggest guy in service and had him sit in the driver seat while they aligned the car. There was no need to suggest it to her and cause a scene.
Again...shes a lard ass...she needs to live with the consequences.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on February 10, 2009, 06:30:19 PM
Actually easier yet they could have just found the biggest guy in service and had him sit in the driver seat while they aligned the car. There was no need to suggest it to her and cause a scene.
What he said.
Quote from: Submariner on February 10, 2009, 06:34:26 PM
Again...shes a lard ass...she needs to live with the consequences.
It's customer service. Even if you know she's a lard ass you do what i suggested above to fix the problem and keep her the hell away from the dealership. Otherwise she'll keep coming back for a half a dozen alignments.
Quote from: Submariner on February 10, 2009, 06:34:26 PM
Again...shes a lard ass...she needs to live with the consequences.
You'd clearly make it far in the business world with that attitude.
Quote from: R-inge on February 10, 2009, 06:25:59 PM
First of all, this is not the first time I've heard of this happening, and yes her weight was the cause of the issue.
Are you positive? I don't doubt that it can happen, but I'm not so sure about this lady specifically. I don't think she's THAT fat. Any large male in a small car is going to produce the same effect, yet I don't hear about big people blowing out their alignments left and right. I think it must take a pretty extreme case for that to happen.
Quote from: R-inge on February 10, 2009, 06:37:22 PM
You'd clearly make it far in the business world with that attitude.
I prefer to stay out of the customer service industry.
Quote from: Submariner on February 10, 2009, 06:46:08 PM
I prefer to stay out of the customer service industry.
You're going to have to interact with clients, employers, or peers in any industry.
Quote from: Submariner on February 10, 2009, 06:46:08 PM
I prefer to stay out of the customer service industry.
You're the kind of guy that would take four vegetarian clients from India out to a steak place, and then tell them that they're wrong ones, and they need to live with the consequences, aren't you?
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 06:49:12 PM
You're going to have to interact with clients, employers, or peers in any industry.
Im going to live in my basement for the rest of my life.
That is not the car, its gravity
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 06:49:12 PM
You're going to have to interact with clients, employers, or peers in any industry.
Even more reason not to be fat like the lady in the story :lol:.
Sorry guys. Anyone who says she is 200 lbs is full of shit. She's at least 250 lbs. Having said that, the car's alignment should, in no way, be thrown out of whack in 5 days because of that kind of weight. I have weighed 270-280 lbs myself, and none of cars ever had alignment issues. I currently weigh 250 lbs and my Focus has never had an alignment issue.
For the record, I totally dismiss anyone's arguments even if they agree with me when they start using derogatory remarks towards fat people.
Quote from: Psilos on February 10, 2009, 07:15:21 PM
You're the kind of guy that would take four vegetarian clients from India out to a steak place, and then tell them that they're wrong ones, and they need to live with the consequences, aren't you?
They're missing out! Just like I would take a Muslim and give him pork sausage and beer because they're missing out on life!!!
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 10, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
For the record, I totally dismiss anyone's arguments even if they agree with me when they start using derogatory remarks towards fat people.
Does that include calling them fat? Or do we have to call them "big boned"
Oh, and btw, I agree, she's definitely over 250 lbs.
Quote from: NomisR on February 10, 2009, 11:47:24 PM
They're missing out! Just like I would take a Muslim and give him pork sausage and beer because they're missing out on life!!!
Missing a smiley, I hope?
Quote from: R-inge on February 10, 2009, 06:34:03 PM
:rolleyes: So there was seriously no better way in your mind to work around it without having to embarrass her? Yes she's fat, yes its funny, but they as a business shouldn't put them selves in that position.
My solution; find another tech (not necessarily a huge one) and stick him in there with a bag of floor-dry on hit lap to simulate the weight as much as possible.
Like I said, LOL but bad move on the dealer's part.
My auto tech teacher said that if they had a heavy customer, they'd just make the customer sit in the car while the techs would align the car. Now I guess everyone is too PC to say stuff like that. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Psilos on February 10, 2009, 11:58:11 PM
Missing a smiley, I hope?
yeah, i've been getting lazy
:ohyeah:
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 10, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
For the record, I totally dismiss anyone's arguments even if they agree with me when they start using derogatory remarks towards fat people.
Why? It was probably their fault (in most cases) for being fat anyways, and they're the ones going around making people's lives harder anyways.
I think I'm fat and I'm hard on myself too. :lol:
My wife says 300, give or take 20lbs.
(She's been up there, she recently got gastric bypass and has knocked off 30lbs. But she also lost a good 20lbs before Christmas dieting AND they found and removed an 8lb cyst in January..)
Someone should have explained more tactfully to the poor woman before she embarrassed herself on the news that it would be recommended for ANYONE to be in their car during alignment..
Our society is what it is. I know what it's like to be grossly overweight.
That being said, I still feel we're being taught to accept obesity too much rather than embrace healthy lifestyles. It can be discouraging when you think everyone is making fun of you, but it can also be a real kick in the ass when you finally come to terms how overweight you really are.
She can either get stronger from this or blame society for her plight. Either way, America's weight problem as a whole needs to start being talked about rather than just brushed under the rug. This opened up a necessary conversation.
PS Women will never mention their true weight. Ever.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 11, 2009, 06:55:02 AM
PS Women will never mention their true weight. Ever.
The ones within a healthy weight range will.
What an utterly warped self-image to let yourself get exploited in such a manner.
I'm guessing 250 - 280, or about double what she should weigh.
The depths the West has let its health decline is shocking.
You guys need to remember that we're looking at her through a camera lens...
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 11, 2009, 05:26:02 AM
Someone should have explained more tactfully to the poor woman before she embarrassed herself on the news that it would be recommended for ANYONE to be in their car during alignment..
Really? I've never been asked to do that.
Quote from: Tave on February 11, 2009, 08:08:50 AM
Really? I've never been asked to do that.
It's ideal, though not absolutely necessary for regular street driving. Guys who do competitive racing (SCCA, NASA, etc.) are definitely going to do this, though.
Quote from: GoCougs on February 11, 2009, 08:05:38 AM
What an utterly warped self-image to let yourself get exploited in such a manner.
I'm guessing 250 - 280, or about double what she should weigh.
The depths the West has let its health decline is shocking.
Don't worry...universal health care will solve all of our problems.
Quote from: NomisR on February 10, 2009, 11:49:59 PM
Does that include calling them fat? Or do we have to call them "big boned"
No. Fat is fat, but calling people "lard ass", "Fat ass", "Zeppelin", etc. does nothing but discredit any arguments you make. If you can't do it in a tactful manner, then your argument must be an empty one.
I take it you're not a fan of House?
Quote from: Tave on February 11, 2009, 11:19:34 AM
I take it you're not a fan of House?
I like the show. He's an asshole and he's supposed to be. You're not supposed to like him.
Just because he's an asshole doesn't make his observations empty.
(yes, yes: I know it's TV :lol: )
Quote from: Tave on February 11, 2009, 11:23:42 AM
Just because he's an asshole doesn't make his observations empty. More often than not, he, the asshole, is the only person capable of truth.
(yes, yes: I know it's TV :lol: )
If it was real life, that person would get ignored because of their delivery...despite how often they are right.
By the way, I watch the show, so I know he's wrong more often then he's right. He just about kills the patient 3 times in every episode.
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 11, 2009, 11:26:06 AM
He just about kills the patient 3 times in every episode.
That's just a plot device. Every procedure show does the same thing; those Law and Order cops go through 3 suspects before they catch the guy who done it.
My own doctor reminds me a lot of House; he's this grumpy old meany who really knows his shit.
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 11, 2009, 11:26:06 AM
If it was real life, that person would get ignored because of their delivery...despite how often they are right.
Well it depends. For the purposes of this discussion, I tend to agree with you.
Quote from: Tave on February 10, 2009, 06:43:59 PM
Are you positive? I don't doubt that it can happen, but I'm not so sure about this lady specifically. I don't think she's THAT fat. Any large male in a small car is going to produce the same effect, yet I don't hear about big people blowing out their alignments left and right. I think it must take a pretty extreme case for that to happen.
First time I heard that story it was from my old shop manager, and it was a similar situation; small car with a fat driver, they eventually had to strap him in it on the rack as well. Not the best way to keep customers, but a good way to resolve it.
I doubt this happens with full size cars and trucks.
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 10, 2009, 11:42:07 PM
Sorry guys. Anyone who says she is 200 lbs is full of shit. She's at least 250 lbs. Having said that, the car's alignment should, in no way, be thrown out of whack in 5 days because of that kind of weight. I have weighed 270-280 lbs myself, and none of cars ever had alignment issues. I currently weigh 250 lbs and my Focus has never had an alignment issue.
Your focus has a firmer sport oriented suspension.
Either way you're wrong if you think your weight doesn't in some way impact the outcome of an alignment.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 11, 2009, 12:07:07 AM
My auto tech teacher said that if they had a heavy customer, they'd just make the customer sit in the car while the techs would align the car. Now I guess everyone is too PC to say stuff like that. :rolleyes:
That's the most efficient way to do it, yes, but not the best way to keep a customer around.
Quote from: R-inge on February 11, 2009, 11:43:50 AM
Your focus has a firmer sport oriented suspension.
Either way you're wrong if you think your weight doesn't in some way impact the outcome of an alignment.
I'm not saying it doesn't affect it, I'm saying there is no way a car should lose it's alignment in 5 days.
Quote from: R-inge on February 11, 2009, 11:44:46 AM
That's the most efficient way to do it, yes, but not the best way to keep a customer around.
Yes, it doesn't keep the customer around because then their car will be fixed so they don't come back bitching. :lol:
Seriously, she's embarrassed herself more by taking this to the news instead of keeping quiet.
Quote from: HEMI666 on February 11, 2009, 11:54:59 AM
I'm not saying it doesn't affect it, I'm saying there is no way a car should lose it's alignment in 5 days.
It isn't losing the alignment, it just was never right in the first place.
Quote from: R-inge on February 11, 2009, 01:05:49 PM
It isn't losing the alignment, it just was never right in the first place.
Well, in a way, it's probably correct and going straight if you put a normal sized human being in there. But when she sits in there.. well,..
In all seriousness, instead of embarrassing the woman by making her sit in the car during the alignment, why not just put some ballast in the driver's seat approximately equal to her estimated weight? A lard-arsed service tech would do just fine. Judging by the dealerships I've worked at, it shouldn't be too difficult to find one of those! :lol:
We all know EVERY woman on the face of the Earth (no matter how skinny she may be) thinks she's overweight. I've known women who could wear my wristwatch as a belt who still say they're fat. Naturally, Kia-woman is going to be sensitive about her weight, too. True, a small car with a relatively soft suspension (like the Rio) can be affected by such an imbalance in weight. I just think the dealership could have handled the situation better.
Cheers,
Madman of the People
Quote from: Madman on February 11, 2009, 02:00:50 PM
In all seriousness, instead of embarrassing the woman by making her sit in the car during the alignment, why not just put some ballast in the driver's seat approximately equal to her estimated weight? A lard-arsed service tech would do just fine. Judging by the dealerships I've worked at, it shouldn't be too difficult to find one of those! :lol:
We all know EVERY woman on the face of the Earth (no matter how skinny she may be) thinks she's overweight. I've known women who could wear my wristwatch as a belt who still say they're fat. Naturally, Kia-woman is going to be sensitive about her weight, too. True, a small car with a relatively soft suspension (like the Rio) can be affected by such an imbalance in weight. I just think the dealership could have handled the situation better.
Cheers,
Madman of the People
Actually, the fatter they are, the less they say they're fat. Skinny women usually say they're fat, even the mildly fat may say so.. but the morbidly obese ones says they're sexy and curvy... Yes, circle is definitely a curve. Even their fat rolls are some sort of curves.
Quote from: NomisR on February 11, 2009, 03:26:01 PM
Actually, the fatter they are, the less they say they're fat. Skinny women usually say they're fat, even the mildly fat may say so.. but the morbidly obese ones says they're sexy and curvy... Yes, circle is definitely a curve. Even their fat rolls are some sort of curves.
For some reason, I'm picturing Michael from The Office saying this to all his horrified employees. :lol:
Quote from: NomisR on February 11, 2009, 03:26:01 PM
Actually, the fatter they are, the less they say they're fat. Skinny women usually say they're fat, even the mildly fat may say so.. but the morbidly obese ones says they're sexy and curvy... Yes, circle is definitely a curve. Even their fat rolls are some sort of curves.
Complaining about being fat when you're skinny is a good way to draw attention to your skinniness and get compliments or "oh no, you're skinny!". If you're fat and complaining about being fat, people are just gonna think "yeah, no shit". ;)
Also, I know lots of women who defy the stereotype, many more, in fact, than who fit the stereotype.
Quote from: Submariner on February 11, 2009, 08:37:07 AM
Don't worry...universal health care will solve all of our problems.
I've lost my appetite.
Quote from: GoCougs on February 11, 2009, 09:23:19 PM
I've lost my appetite.
Well...i'm sure that free ATV we've been promised will nurse you back to health.
Quote from: Tave on February 11, 2009, 08:08:50 AM
Really? I've never been asked to do that.
I have and they should. Even my thin ass made a huge difference in my car.
Then what happens when you carry a passenger?
You DIE!
I sat in my Miata when I had it aligned to custom specs. It's the way to be.
Quote from: Tave on February 12, 2009, 08:07:37 AM
Then what happens when you carry a passenger?
It changes. But not enough to make a huge or noticeable difference when driving. Unless it was some 250 pound person like her. But then it wouldn't matter because the little 1.6 motor wouldn't be able to move the car anymore so steering wouldn't be a problem.