It's a simple question, but to add another part to it: How fast have you gone in it?
I don't know the top speed. I've broken 100 mph but no more than that.
162 mph
In the day, it apparently topped out at 111 mph or so. I've taken it to 90ish.
According to the specs, it's governed at 112 mph. I've only taken it to maybe 90 (overtaking a slower vehicle in a short passing zone).
I'll just list what I can remember :]
? = speedo doesn't go that high
+ = as fast as I went, but didn't actually top it out
1. 1988.5 Suzuki Samurai JA 90 mph downhill
2. 1990 Buick Skylark 3.3L V6 95? mph, governed
3. 2002 Honda Civic EX sedan 5spd 120+ mph
4. 1994 Ford Ranger XLT 2wd 4.0 5spd short bed reg cab no idea
5. 2004 Dodge Neon SRT-4 130+ mph
6. 1990 Honda Civic std hatch 4spd 1.5L 100 mph drag limited
7. 2005 Ford Focus ZX3 S 5spd 106 mph governed
8. 1984 Suzuki SJ410 hardtop 1.0L 4cyl 67 mph drag limited
9. 1979 Pontiac Grand LeMans 350-V8 90?+ mph
10. 1994 Plymouth Sundance Duster 3.0 V6 100+ mph
11. 1979 Chevrolet C-10 355-V8 3-on-the-tree no idea
12. 1998 Suzuki Esteem wagon 1.6L 5spd 95? mph governed, I think
13. 1990 Audi V8 Quattro 3.2L V8 110+ mph
14. 1994 Ford Escort LX sedan 1.9L no idea
15. 1997 Volkswagen Jetta GLS 2.slo no idea
16. 1989 Volvo 760 Turbo Wagen 2.3L 90+ mph
17. 1995 Suzuki Swift 1.3L 5spd hatch 85+ mph
18. 1991 Nissan Pathfinder SE-V6 80+ mph
1. 1977 Suzuki GS750 110+ mph
2. 2000 Yahaha V-Star 650 85 mph if I laid down on the tank
3. 1980 Honda CM 400 no idea
4. 1990 Kawasaki EX500 100+ mph
5. 1979 Suzuki GS550L 80+ mph
I like NACar's idea.
1. Novarolla-- 80+ shaky as hell
2. Miata-- 110+ stop sign
3. Trooper 1-- 85+ shaky
4. Jeep-- haha, right
5. Volvo-- 90+ shockingly stable
6. Trooper 2-- no chance
7. Ranger-- 95+
8. MG-- 100+ (by "+", I mean 103 :lol: )
Don't know what my car would top out at these days. I've had it over 100 before but I don't do that shit anymore.
Explorer - 100 mph (limited there)
t3h svt - almost 150 mph (high 140's) <-- factory said it only went to 142 mph or something like that, actual figure is about mid 150s
I've had my Accord to 175kph/109mph. No clue what its max might be, but it has to be close to that.
Even where possible to go faster I have always limited myself to 200kph/125mph on public roads, so that's as fast as I've had the RSX going. Its drag limited to around 232kph/145mph according to reviews.
Quote from: NACar on June 07, 2009, 06:32:29 PM
3. 2002 Honda Civic EX sedan 5spd 120+ mph
5. 2004 Dodge Neon SRT-4 130+ mph
I expected more from you nick
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on June 07, 2009, 07:31:46 PM
I've had my Accord to 175kph/109mph. No clue what its max might be, but it has to be close to that.
Even where possible to go faster I have always limited myself to 200kph/125mph on public roads, so that's as fast as I've had the RSX going. Its drag limited to around 232kph/145mph according to reviews.
At that point you might as well as go all the way since you're going to jail anyway :lol:
I've had the Z up to 120-130ish, I calculated the max speed in top gear to be 190-195 around 7000rpm. I'm sure it doesn't have enough power(with the current turbos) to hit that, but it will most likely be drag limited to the 170's.
Present to past vehicles (in km/h. 100 km/h = 62 mph).
2001 Dodge Dakota.... 140
1991 Honda Prelude.... 140
2001 Cadillac STS.... 210
2005 Dodge Caravan.... 160
2003 Dodge SX2.0 (Neon).... 180
1992 Nissan NX2000.... 160
1993 Chevy Cavalier.... 160
1990 Nissan Hardbody P/U... 120
1998 Chevy Venture.... 180
1990 VW Golf.... 200
1987 Ford Ranger.... 120
1986 Honda Prelude.... 210
1986 Chevy Corvette... 252
1984 Dodge Omni Shelby GLH.... 202
1973 Karmann Ghia.... 100... downhill
1981 Mom's Ford Escort.... 150
1976 Dad's Piece 'O' Shit Plymouth Valiant.... 100
1996 Monte Carlo 3.4L
110 MPH, gov. @ 112, I believe.
1990 Maxima SE
It could reach 130 when it was new, I got it up to around 105 before the steering wheel's shaking started to scare me.
2003 9-3
It's top speed is 145, I've never gone above 95 in it.
I took my first Maxima to about 135
First Accord to 130
Second Accord to the JDM 180km/h limit (it banged on it. I think that was a 150MPH car)
Second Maxima... maybe 110. Brakes sucked
Third Accord... too many issues to go beyond 90 MPH. It has pep though. Maybe a 135MPH car
They (other owners) say that the Two can top out at a drag-limited 120mph. I've gotten it up to around 90mph.
165ish?
Apparently it only needs about a mile or so of road to get around 160mph from a standing start.
http://www.motortrend.com/womt/112_0306_spdtest/photo_06.html
It runs out of 5th gear at 170ish, and 6th is just an economy gear.
Quote from: 565 on June 07, 2009, 07:58:09 PM
165ish?
Apparently it only needs about a mile or so of road to get around 160mph from a standing start.
http://www.motortrend.com/womt/112_0306_spdtest/photo_06.html
It runs out of 5th gear at 170ish, and 6th is just an economy gear.
well according to that graph, the top speed of the z06 should be about 175...
Not fast enough. And yes, 2o6, it will break 100 mph.
I've gone 90 in my car before. It was VERY stable.
Quote from: SVT_Power on June 07, 2009, 08:07:04 PM
well according to that graph, the top speed of the z06 should be about 175...
Yeah it's a weird situation where 6th gear is almost enough to go forward a bit more, and some Z06's can climb just a little bit more in 6th in some tests.
So for this C&D test, the Z06 was redline limited to 168mph in 5th.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/muscle_cars/chevrolet_corvette_z06_road_test__1+t-specs+page-3.html
For this test:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/roadtests/pdf/2003/2003_03_z_comparison_data.pdf
5th gear ran out at 170mph (I'm guessing small differences in testing equipment and possibly tire wear). 6th gear managed to get another 1 mph to 171mph , but you can see it's out of the powerband (4280rpms in 6th and power peak is 6000rpm, torque peak is 4800rpm).
For Motortrend to get 174mph, they probably shifted into 6th, got an extra 3 or so mph under favorable conditions.
'05 Accord V6.
I've gone a max of about 110 mph. Pretty amazing for a plebeian car i how good it feels at that speed and how fast it got there.
Top speed is rumored to be in the 140s without the governor...
'98 Cavalier 2.2L pushrod 4A- about 95mph on the highway (I was really pissed off) no idea what the top speed was
'05 Cooper S 6MT - about 110 (maybe 114, but BMW speedos are inaccurate) on the track, and about 110 on the highway, top speed is 135mph, IIRC
2002 Mercedes E320: I don't actually know the top speed on this one, but I did an indicated 132.
2004 Volkswagen Passat: Electronically limited to 130, I made and held an indicated 130. It was easier to get there than it was in the 50hp more powerful E320.
2007 Porsche Boxster S: Top speed 170, I only managed an indicated 120 before backing off. Didn't have the car long enough to find the tarmac to truly exploit it. Shame.
2008 Volkswagen Jetta Wolfsburg: Electronically limited top speed of 130, so far I've only been to an indicated 105.
The E-class is probably limited to 155.........if it can reach it.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 07, 2009, 10:14:06 PM
The E-class is probably limited to 155.........if it can reach it.
It probably couldn't top 140. I was heading into some strong wind, but I still got the feeling that at 132, there wasn't much left. The Passat was much strong at those speeds. It felt like it could break 150 easy.
I left off in the RX-8 at 130 cause my friends car shut off at 120mph and I felt like mocking him.... the 8 is drag limited somewhere around 145-150mph
Mine as per the specs can reach 248 kph (154 MPH), however I have never driven (yet) faster then 185 kph (115 MPH)
I hit ~110 in the Aveo, but I think my actual speed was closer to ~100. It had a little room left, but not much.
Quote from: r0tor on June 08, 2009, 06:01:19 AM
I left off in the RX-8 at 130 cause my friends car shut off at 120mph and I felt like mocking him.... the 8 is drag limited somewhere around 145-150mph
Drag limited.....LMAO
Don't kid yourself roto, that weezy rotary would either run out of torque or run out of oil by 140.
torques? i got no stinking torques :lockedup:
225 km/h = 140 mph , at least that's what my speedo says.
My dad's A6 downhill topspeed was 245 km/h. That's 152 mph. On a straight road it's 230km/h. My Golf however is as fast on a straight as downhill. That's also what the speedo said. Official topspeed is 217 km/h.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 07, 2009, 10:14:06 PM
The E-class is probably limited to 155.........if it can reach it.
Doubt it, it's probably limited lower than that for the tires.
Prelude was still pulling at 125.
I have reached the top speed of my previous car of 122 MPH. The car was a 2002 VW Passat, 2.0L 8V, 115 HP, 4Sp A/T
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2zioqdi.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/33w8gm9.jpg)
For the record, it happened in a very long, empty, straight, flat stratch of 4 lanes highway, with a speed limit of 100 MPH (160 kph)
Quote from: TBR on June 08, 2009, 08:50:48 AM
Doubt it, it's probably limited lower than that for the tires.
Prelude was still pulling at 125.
Most MBs are limited at 155mph because of the tires.
The fastest I've been in the Accord was 115-120 (my speedo isn't entirely accurate - it was indicating 120). The only report of a top speed on my gen with a 4 cyl Accord was in an automatic sedan, which was about, 124, IIRC.
:huh:
I think the Spirit could touch 180-190 km/h if the road was flat. They highest I've ever had it up to is around 150 km/h (in the neighbourhood of 90 mph).
On the way to Vegas, I switched the speedometer setting to indicate km/h so that the needle would jump to 140, and I fooled my passengers into thinking I was doing 140 mph. Does that count? :tounge:
Otherwise, I've barely topped 100. I think the car might be able to touch 140.
Quote from: TBR on June 08, 2009, 08:50:48 AM
Doubt it, it's probably limited lower than that for the tires.
Prelude was still pulling at 125.
The stock tires were H rated, I believe, so I'm guessing there was a soft limiter around 130, but the digital speedometer reading out 132 would lead me to believe otherwise.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 08, 2009, 10:43:36 AM
Most MBs are limited at 155mph because of the tires.
The fastest I've been in the Accord was 115-120 (my speedo isn't entirely accurate - it was indicating 120). The only report of a top speed on my gen with a 4 cyl Accord was in an automatic sedan, which was about, 124, IIRC.
Most MB's aren't rated to 155 mph. It's usually only the AMG models that are actually limited to 155 IIRC.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 08, 2009, 10:43:36 AM
Most MBs are limited at 155mph because of the tires.
The fastest I've been in the Accord was 115-120 (my speedo isn't entirely accurate - it was indicating 120). The only report of a top speed on my gen with a 4 cyl Accord was in an automatic sedan, which was about, 124, IIRC.
No, AMG models and other higher performance MBs are limited to 155 due to a gentlemen's agreement among German automakers (eg: the 276 HP limit in Japan).
Most I've got out of the Ibiza is 115mph (downhill).
Not bad for 60 bhp tho!
Quote from: TBR on June 08, 2009, 11:34:45 AM
No, AMG models and other higher performance MBs are limited to 155 due to a gentlemen's agreement among German automakers (eg: the 276 HP limit in Japan).
And the tires are likely Z-rated = 155MPH.
186, supposedly.
I haven't had it past 115-120ish.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 08, 2009, 01:36:29 PM
And the tires are likely Z-rated = 155MPH.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=35
Quote from: Lebowski on June 08, 2009, 02:18:29 PM
186, supposedly.
I haven't had it past 115-120ish.
:confused: What? That's about the trap speed of your car at the end of the 1/4 mile. Yeah we have to be safe and responsible but you gotta open up the taps on your C6 at least once.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 08, 2009, 01:36:29 PM
And the tires are likely Z-rated = 155MPH.
Z-rated simply implies 149+ mph, I believe. It's broken down further by other letters - W is 168 mph, Y is 186 mph, etc.
And my car has W-rated tires - 168 mph. :praise: If only it would go that fast...
Quote from: SVT_Power on June 07, 2009, 07:31:48 PM
I expected more from you nick
I have never lived in an area with especially wide-open roads.
Quote from: The Pirate on June 08, 2009, 03:28:46 PM
Z-rated simply implies 149+ mph, I believe. It's broken down further by other letters - W is 168 mph, Y is 186 mph, etc.
And my car has W-rated tires - 168 mph. :praise: If only it would go that fast...
Why do you have W-rated tires? What's the point? Do you have an aftermarket setup, or is that factory?
Probably 130-140 in the Z. Drag limited of course.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 08, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
Why do you have W-rated tires? What's the point? Do you have an aftermarket setup, or is that factory?
My car came with V-rated tires, which are rated to 149 mph, and is governed to 112 mph.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 08, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
Why do you have W-rated tires? What's the point? Do you have an aftermarket setup, or is that factory?
Better grip at low speeds I would imagine.
Z28: I've had it up to 155mph
Corolla: almost 105mph
T-Bird: 130mph
F-150: 95mph ( :nutty: )
Gixxer: this is touchy I saw an indicated 165mph. But I've read the sportbike speedos are known to read kinda high on the top end. :huh:
Quote from: 2o6 on June 08, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
Why do you have W-rated tires? What's the point? Do you have an aftermarket setup, or is that factory?
Higher speed rated tires also tend to be built somewhat better and/or have a higher load rating than lower speed rated tires, but then again that may be bullcrap.
I've never been faster than 100 indicated in my car, but it will apparently do around 150ish (limited maybe?). Someday if I have a chance to do it safely on new tires I'll let you know.
'68 Ford Fairlane 428CJ: Top speed unknown, clocked at 151mph on a track, Pomona, CA.
'07 BMW 335i: Limited to 150mph, hit 130mph on I-70 around Choteau Springs, MO.
'02 Chevy Avalanche: Limited to 110mph, hit that on US 67 around back side of Lambert-STL Int'l Airport.
What about the motorbike?
Quote from: GoCougs on June 08, 2009, 09:08:26 PM
What about the motorbike?
'06 Buell XB12Ss: I think it tops out around 135mph. I've gotten close to that in short bursts on I-270; highest sustained is 115mph on New Jersey Turnpike.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 08, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
Why do you have W-rated tires? What's the point? Do you have an aftermarket setup, or is that factory?
Kumho Ecsta ASX.
It just happens to be the best option (best mix of price and performance, with a tiny bit of snow capability) that's available in my car's OEM size (195/50/16).
They don't last terribly long, but they have fantastic dry grip.
1992 Legacy: I've had it to 75 mph. That wasn't pretty. :lol:
'08 535xi: I've had it at 115, it was ridiculously stable, it felt like it was at 75 or so. Could easily do a lot more, governed at 150.
'07 A4 2.0Tq: I've had it at 100, again, ridiculously stable and felt like it could go for more. Supposedly is governed at 130.
'06 TSX: 80. I haven't driven this car on enough long drives for me to go faster than that. God knows what its top speed is.
Note: These are all my parents cars (the TSX is my sister's but since Dad paid for it, it's therefore one of their cars), but they're really the only cars I drive
Quote from: R-inge on June 08, 2009, 08:23:32 PM
Higher speed rated tires also tend to be built somewhat better and/or have a higher load rating than lower speed rated tires, but then again that may be bullcrap.
I've never been faster than 100 indicated in my car, but it will apparently do around 150ish (limited maybe?). Someday if I have a chance to do it safely on new tires I'll let you know.
Even with the 2.5, I'd be surprised to see a stock WRX make 150mph; the AWD and drag certainly won't help it at high speeds.
I did 95 going up to 100, had visions of my flimsy car getting smashed into a two dimensional plane, and then backed down to 85. My tires were really crappy back then, so it's probably for the best.
Quote from: Raza on June 08, 2009, 10:25:22 PM
Even with the 2.5, I'd be surprised to see a stock WRX make 150mph; the AWD and drag certainly won't help it at high speeds.
I've taken a 2008 Auto WRX sedan to 120mph and it got there in a hurry. I'm pretty sure it was pulling stronger than my RSX-S up there but it could be because they both deliver it differently.
Quote from: The Pirate on June 08, 2009, 03:28:46 PM
Z-rated simply implies 149+ mph, I believe. It's broken down further by other letters - W is 168 mph, Y is 186 mph, etc.
And my car has W-rated tires - 168 mph. :praise: If only it would go that fast...
I've got W-rated tires - a good idea since I actually get above the basic Z rating :lol:
I don't really understand how the SVT gets to 150+mph. It's only got 200 hp...
Quote from: SVT_Power on June 09, 2009, 12:55:35 AM
I've got W-rated tires - a good idea since I actually get above the basic Z rating :lol:
MPH, not KPH.
Quote from: Laconian on June 09, 2009, 12:57:14 AM
MPH, not KPH.
:facepalm:
Quote from: SVT_Power on June 07, 2009, 07:27:33 PM
Explorer - 100 mph (limited there)
t3h svt - almost 150 mph (high 140's) <-- factory said it only went to 142 mph or something like that, actual figure is about mid 150s
95 Civic Ex 4sp auto - I got this to about 105 going down on I-53 toward UIUC. It was shacking and rattling like a mess by that time and I doubt I could have gotten it any faster, maybe 110; 115 if I caught nice wind.
08 Civic 5sp auto - 85 going toward Minnesota for a Bears game. This feels a lot more stable than my old Civic and it certainly gets up there faster, I'm kinda curious on what it would top out at.
Those two are my cars, as for my parents...
05 Accord 4 cyl - 85 on some highway in Maryland. I really like the engine thats in the Accord, its smooth and feels deceptively powerful, it also got the car there in a hurry. Sure, there was road noise a plenty, but none of it came from the engine.
10 GLK - 70 going into the city - We just got this like last week (I've been planning on posting pics and a short road test/impressions some time this week, but I'm painfully lazy) so I have't really opened it up but its really stable and you just don't feel the speed creeping up at all. It feels pretty powerful too.
Argh I want to see what the actual top speed of my car is... I mean I was less than 10 mph away. Forget that, like 5 mph away.
One day. Soon.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 08, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
Why do you have W-rated tires? What's the point? Do you have an aftermarket setup, or is that factory?
My 115 HP, 122 MPH previous car (the one i posted) came from factory with W tires. My current 250 HP, 154 MPH car has Y tires.
Quote from: AltinD on June 09, 2009, 09:00:49 AM
My 115 HP, 122 MPH previous car (the one i posted) came from factory with W tires. My current 250 HP, 154 MPH car has Y tires.
Well, that makes sense, because to save on costs. Maybe the 3.2L or W8 could use those ratings, and the tires would possibly simplify production.
The protege doesn't make sense, because it can't reach those speeds in any iteration.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 09, 2009, 10:06:36 AM
Well, that makes sense, because to save on costs. Maybe the 3.2L or W8 could use those ratings, and the tires would possibly simplify production.
I would be shocked if either the W8 or VR6 wore the same size tires as the base 2.0l variant.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 09, 2009, 10:06:36 AM
The protege doesn't make sense, because it can't reach those speeds in any iteration.
in a Mazda zoom-z00m sense it makes perfect sense
Quote from: TBR on June 09, 2009, 10:26:57 AM
I would be shocked if either the W8 or VR6 wore the same size tires as the base 2.0l variant.
Did you see AltinD's 2.0L? I've seen that same wheel and tire combo on the 1.8T, VR6 and W8.
Quote from: 565 on June 08, 2009, 03:00:12 PM
:confused: What? That's about the trap speed of your car at the end of the 1/4 mile. Yeah we have to be safe and responsible but you gotta open up the taps on your C6 at least once.
Maybe he was worried his roof might fly off at those speeds.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?num_records=25&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&search_type=both&distance=0&address=44304&marketZipError=false&style_flag=1&make=VOLKS&model=PASS&make2=&start_year=1981&end_year=2010&min_price=&max_price=&seller_type=b&transmission=&engine=8+Cylinder&drive=&doors=&fuel=&max_mileage=&color=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&keywords_display=&sort_type=priceDESC&body_code=0&certified=&advanced=y&highlightFirstMakeModel=&showZipError=y&default_sort=priceDESC&awsp=false&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&systime=&sownerid=69348&rdm=1244567277413
I didn't look through them all because I have better things to do, but from what I did look at they all have different wheels at least.
Quote from: TBR on June 09, 2009, 11:10:00 AM
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?num_records=25&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&search_type=both&distance=0&address=44304&marketZipError=false&style_flag=1&make=VOLKS&model=PASS&make2=&start_year=1981&end_year=2010&min_price=&max_price=&seller_type=b&transmission=&engine=8+Cylinder&drive=&doors=&fuel=&max_mileage=&color=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&keywords_display=&sort_type=priceDESC&body_code=0&certified=&advanced=y&highlightFirstMakeModel=&showZipError=y&default_sort=priceDESC&awsp=false&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&systime=&sownerid=69348&rdm=1244567277413
I didn't look through them all because I have better things to do, but from what I did look at they all have different wheels at least.
No they don't.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=262166149&dealer_id=1182375&car_year=2003&rdm=1244567277413&model=PASS&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=8+Cylinder&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&sownerid=69348&showZipError=y&make=VOLKS&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=44304&advanced=y&end_year=2010&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=2070&standard=false
Ah, missed one. Nonetheless, same wheels != same tires.
1969 E-type 2+2
Top speed would have been about 142, drag limited (according to period road tests). I've had it as fast as about 125 MPH, It felt very stable at that speed. I've cruised at 100-105 with the only worry being the cops.
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6032/gtpc001.jpg)
My 330xi should be good to 155 as it's equipped with the sports package. Weather that's gear limited or electronic I don't know. Gearing overall seems a bit short on it. I've had it up to 130 so far, and it was still pulling hard. I thought my 9-3 was stable at speed, but this one is even more so.
I had my 9-3 topped out at a hair under 145. I'm not sure if it would have gone faster or not, as I ran out of road to try it with. Felt pretty good at that speed, but the Aero body kits definitely helps with stability at speed a lot.
I've also had our 2007 Mazda 6 up to 110 in Wyoming and it had some legs left. Might be good for 115-120. Speed was measured with both the Speedometer and GPS. I didn't go faster because my wife in the passenger seat woke up and asked why I was going so fast.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 09, 2009, 10:06:36 AM
Well, that makes sense, because to save on costs. Maybe the 3.2L or W8 could use those ratings, and the tires would possibly simplify production.
The protege doesn't make sense, because it can't reach those speeds in any iteration.
You can't look at it solely in terms of speed. It's true that the speed rating is higher than any Proteg? will likely achieve, but tires with a high speed rating are also going to offer increased performance in cornering and braking abilities. While my car doesn't have a high top speed, it will easily maintain a relatively high speed through a cloverleaf. Why? Tires (and the suspension geometry, but mostly tires).
And like I said, I run the Kumho Ecsta ASX. It's a high performance tire that happens to be available for a reasonable price in the size I need. As mentioned previously, by nature of that size, most tires that will fit my car are of a higher performance nature and carry a V or W rating. And again, said tires offer a high threshold in grip, which increases the cornering and braking capabilities of the car.
Quote from: Raza on June 08, 2009, 10:25:22 PM
Even with the 2.5, I'd be surprised to see a stock WRX make 150mph; the AWD and drag certainly won't help it at high speeds.
Maybe you're right, but the car has no lack of grunt, particularly with the map I'm running. I was hitting 15psi on the upramps yesterday, but I'll probably never know for sure.
Quote from: CALL_911 on June 08, 2009, 09:25:09 PM
1992 Legacy: I've had it to 75 mph. That wasn't pretty. :lol:
My 94 cruised fairly well at up to 90mph. Took keeping my foot in it to keep it there, but it was fine doing it.
Quote from: Byteme on June 09, 2009, 11:43:27 AM
I've also had our 2007 Mazda 6 up to 110 in Wyoming and it had some legs left. Might be good for 115-120. Speed was measured with both the Speedometer and GPS. I didn't go faster because my wife in the passenger seat woke up and asked why I was going so fast.
lmao!
Quote from: The Pirate on June 09, 2009, 12:18:10 PM
You can't look at it solely in terms of speed. It's true that the speed rating is higher than any Proteg? will likely achieve, but tires with a high speed rating are also going to offer increased performance in cornering and braking abilities. While my car doesn't have a high top speed, it will easily maintain a relatively high speed through a cloverleaf. Why? Tires (and the suspension geometry, but mostly tires).
And like I said, I run the Kumho Ecsta ASX. It's a high performance tire that happens to be available for a reasonable price in the size I need. As mentioned previously, by nature of that size, most tires that will fit my car are of a higher performance nature and carry a V or W rating. And again, said tires offer a high threshold in grip, which increases the cornering and braking capabilities of the car.
How are they holding up? Those are definitely in the running for my next set of tires.
I did 105mph yesterday without even a second thought... some douche in an automatic eclipse gs with a fart pipe was flying like hell weaving in and out of traffic and came very close to hitting me. I got angered, romped on it, passed him, and extended my entire arm out the window and proceeded to flip him off in a grand fashion followed by a rev of my engine and a good 'ol rotary backfire
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on June 09, 2009, 11:02:54 AM
Maybe he was worried his roof might fly off at those speeds.
LOW BLOW!
Quote from: r0tor on June 09, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
I did 105mph yesterday without even a second thought... some douche in an automatic eclipse gs with a fart pipe was flying like hell weaving in and out of traffic and came very close to hitting me. I got angered, romped on it, passed him, and extended my entire arm out the window and proceeded to flip him off in a grand fashion followed by a rev of my engine and a good 'ol rotary backfire
wow your and ass
Quote from: TBR on June 09, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
How are they holding up? Those are definitely in the running for my next set of tires.
Same here. $70 cheaper per corner than the RE960AS Pole Positions I am also considering.
Quote from: Raza on June 09, 2009, 03:05:02 PM
Same here. $70 cheaper per corner than the RE960AS Pole Positions I am also considering.
The other tire on my list is Yokohoma Avid A4S, but even they are $20 more expensive per tire.
Funny, I was also thinking of those tires today on my way to DIA again. (My current tires are kinda choppy from a bad alignment, so I'm ready for them to wear out.) I guess, really, if you can find a tire that performs on par with pricier rubber for a lower price you might as well. Really, with any wear item it seems to be most practical to buy whatever you can get for the best price without a discernable difference in quality. I guess that's the definition of Value, really.
Elise caps out at 149mph I think and I've gone about 123ish or so at WSIR. Wasn't payment close attention since I was passing on a turn but looks to be around there.
Not sure what the top speed is for the RSX but I've gone about 100, on it.. was afraid of a ticket so I slowed down.
Quote from: Raza on June 09, 2009, 03:05:02 PM
Same here. $70 cheaper per corner than the RE960AS Pole Positions I am also considering.
That tire was on my short list but I decided against it because its a heavy tire, something like 3lbs heavier per than my stock Michellins.
I went with Yokohama Advan S.4's but I don't know if that was such a good idea either. I've already had a pair warranty replaced due to wicked vibration, and the remaining "good" tires all still exhibit a slight shudder at speeds despite being balanced to <0.15g.
I'm going to see what its like living with them now (bad ones just replaced yesterday) but I might just end up buying some Michellin Pilot Sport A/S's and selling these Yokos.
Quote from: TBR on June 09, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
How are they holding up? Those are definitely in the running for my next set of tires.
I've never had any tire other than the ASX (KU21) on this car. Taking price into consideration, it seems to be the best all-around tire for my needs. I'm on my second set. It's not the longest lasting tire out there. With normal driving styles, you'll probably see 30K miles or so. They are okay with an inch or two of snow - anything more than that and they are abysmal. Probably not an issue for you, and they aren't advertised as regular all-seasons, so it's not a surprise. The tires have fantastic dry lateral grip. They respond well to progressive turn in, they upset easily if you're abrupt. Wet grip is also an area where people say it falls short. I've never had any issues here, but I don't drive like a bonehead when the roads are wet. They don't hydroplane and are perfectly stable with sane driving in my experience. I've heard that they slip a bit more than their competitors initially on hard acceleration, though I rarely launch hard and I'm not dealing with massive amounts of power, so it's not an issue for me. Most people mention that they have a bit more road noise than a standard tire. The Proteg? is a loud car, so this isn't anything that I've really noticed. I'd say it's probably worth the increase in grip that you'll see. They have this trick rim protector too - the sidewall of the tire actually extends out past the edge of the wheel. It definitely works.
In your size, I'd also look at the Yokohama AVID V4S. It's $20 more per tire than the ASX from tirerack.com. I've no experience with that tire, so I don't know if it's worth the premium, but it is rated higher than the KU21.
Quote from: The Pirate on June 09, 2009, 07:46:12 PM
I've never had any tire other than the ASX (KU21) on this car. Taking price into consideration, it seems to be the best all-around tire for my needs. I'm on my second set. It's not the longest lasting tire out there. With normal driving styles, you'll probably see 30K miles or so. They are okay with an inch or two of snow - anything more than that and they are abysmal. Probably not an issue for you, and they aren't advertised as regular all-seasons, so it's not a surprise. The tires have fantastic dry lateral grip. They respond well to progressive turn in, they upset easily if you're abrupt. Wet grip is also an area where people say it falls short. I've never had any issues here, but I don't drive like a bonehead when the roads are wet. They don't hydroplane and are perfectly stable with sane driving in my experience. I've heard that they slip a bit more than their competitors initially on hard acceleration, though I rarely launch hard and I'm not dealing with massive amounts of power, so it's not an issue for me. Most people mention that they have a bit more road noise than a standard tire. The Proteg? is a loud car, so this isn't anything that I've really noticed. I'd say it's probably worth the increase in grip that you'll see. They have this trick rim protector too - the sidewall of the tire actually extends out past the edge of the wheel. It definitely works.
In your size, I'd also look at the Yokohama AVID V4S. It's $20 more per tire than the ASX from tirerack.com. I've no experience with that tire, so I don't know if it's worth the premium, but it is rated higher than the KU21.
Quote from: TBR on June 09, 2009, 04:31:21 PM
The other tire on my list is Yokohoma Avid A4S, but even they are $20 more expensive per tire.
Great minds do think alike after all!
Quote from: TBR on June 09, 2009, 07:52:22 PM
Great minds do think alike after all!
Hehehe. The other one I really like is the Bridgestone Potenza G019. I don't know if that's available in your size, or if it's priced competitively, but it's a good tire too.
Apparently the Accord does 128 but I've only had it up to 100.
The MDX, 115 maybe, but I've only had it up to 80.
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on June 08, 2009, 06:59:09 PM
Gixxer: this is touchy I saw an indicated 165mph. But I've read the sportbike speedos are known to read kinda high on the top end. :huh:
I just rode past one of those roadside radar machines. The Gixxer showed 50mph,but the radar showed 42mph. Maybe the previous owner went 1 down on the front sporket.
Quote from: Byteme on June 09, 2009, 11:17:19 AM
1969 E-type 2+2
Top speed would have been about 142, drag limited (according to period road tests). I've had it as fast as about 125 MPH, It felt very stable at that speed. I've cruised at 100-105 with the only worry being the cops.
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6032/gtpc001.jpg)
That would easily be the most marvellous event of all mentioned thus far.
I've only had the A6 up to an indicated 110mph which is more like 105. It felt totally secure and solid at that speed. Only thing stopping me is fear of getting roughed and cuffed. :mask: I've driven an A6 2.5L turbo diesel to 138 on the Autobahn, and that was redlined and maxed out. Pommes said his dad's A6 hit 154 - :rockon: - nice work! Mine is limited to 130 for H rated tire reasons. I fairly routinely cruise at 85+ since everyone else on the road is rolling at 80 or so.
Quote from: TBR on June 09, 2009, 04:31:21 PM
The other tire on my list is Yokohoma Avid A4S, but even they are $20 more expensive per tire.
I was looking at those, Advan S4s, and ContiExtremeContacts. According to Cozmik, the Kumhos were terrible on his Saab, but according to Adam, they're good on his Mazda. I've never had Kumhos before, but I've had good experience with Continental (on my Porsche) and Bridgestone (on both my Passat and E320), so I'm favoring them.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 09, 2009, 10:53:40 AM
Did you see AltinD's 2.0L? I've seen that same wheel and tire combo on the 1.8T, VR6 and W8.
Not really. My 2.0L had 16" wheels while the W8 came with BBS 18" from the factory. I think 19" were optional on that car.
I hit 85 on the DC beltway in my minivan (55mph zoned) and my Subie has been up to 75mph.
When I had my SHO I used the cheapest M+S tires available and did sustained 100+ sometimes for 20 minutes. Hit 138mph a few times.
Quote from: AltinD on June 11, 2009, 05:14:12 AM
Not really. My 2.0L had 16" wheels while the W8 came with BBS 18" from the factory. I think 19" were optional on that car.
I don't know about over there, but here I think the only available wheel was the 18" BBS. I've been shopping around trying to get a used set of W8 wheels for my car. No luck yet.
My Passat 1.8T only had 15" wheels (195/65 tires) and yours had 16!?
Quote from: saxonyron on June 09, 2009, 11:20:13 PM
I've only had the A6 up to an indicated 110mph which is more like 105. It felt totally secure and solid at that speed. Only thing stopping me is fear of getting roughed and cuffed. :mask: I've driven an A6 2.5L turbo diesel to 138 on the Autobahn, and that was redlined and maxed out. Pommes said his dad's A6 hit 154 - :rockon: - nice work! Mine is limited to 130 for H rated tire reasons. I fairly routinely cruise at 85+ since everyone else on the road is rolling at 80 or so.
Do they really limit the cars in the USA because of the tyres?
In germany cars have to be sold with tyres that are sufficient for the car`s topspeed. If you have winter tyres that aren`t, you must have a yellow sticker on the dashboard that tells you how these tyres are rated.
It`s funny though (I made a thread about this some time ago): Our winter tyres aren`t supposed to be driven faster than 210 km/h (that`s also what the sticker says). But the car is a good 15 km/h faster on these tyres than on summer tyres anyways. And still feels totally stable and safe btw.
Quote from: saxonyron on June 09, 2009, 11:20:13 PM
I've only had the A6 up to an indicated 110mph which is more like 105. It felt totally secure and solid at that speed. Only thing stopping me is fear of getting roughed and cuffed. :mask:
Roughed and cuffed by your wife? Or by the cozzers?
Because one of those sounds fun.
Camaro - 125 or whatever the tires are rated at. I've been up to 120. It could go to 140 probably (gearing limited). With a 6 speed and different rear end gears it could probably go 160 drag limited.
El Camino - 0 mph
BMW - I think it's limited to 155.
Mazda - 115 or 120 probably. I've only been up to 95.
Buell - 145 is the top, I've been to around 100.
Quote from: Raza on June 11, 2009, 06:54:27 AM
My Passat 1.8T only had 15" wheels (195/65 tires) and yours had 16!?
Yes, I know then in USA the 15" wheels were the norm. In Europe and elsewhere that was the norm only for the steelies, hardly any car came with 15" alloys. The norm was 16" and 17" could be had optionally.