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Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: BMWDave on August 15, 2005, 08:19:35 AM
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Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 08:21:33 AM
It's fine, I suppose. It ought to be bigger though, right now it's too close to the X3 from what I can tell.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: giant_mtb on August 15, 2005, 08:22:23 AM
QuoteIt's fine, I suppose. It ought to be bigger though, right now it's too close to the X3 from what I can tell.
I agree.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: BMWDave on August 15, 2005, 08:23:02 AM
I dont know if I'm seeing correctly, but it looks like it might have 3rd row seats.  

And the car looks a lot sportier and hunkered down IMO.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 09:39:56 AM
There is no way it has a 3rd row, there would be next to no head room.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: BMWDave on August 15, 2005, 09:41:10 AM
QuoteThere is no way it has a 3rd row, there would be next to no head room.
Look through the back window in this picture:  Those are definitely rear seats.

(http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20BMW%20X5%20photo%2002.jpg)
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 09:45:52 AM
Will it come with a surgeon to amputate your legs to fit back there?
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 10:17:18 AM
QuoteWill it come with a surgeon to amputate your legs to fit back there?
And your neck for that matter. What is the point of a 3rd row that is too small for anyone to use?  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: 850CSi on August 15, 2005, 10:18:25 AM
QuoteWill it come with a surgeon to amputate your legs to fit back there?
Not like any 3rd row is meant to fit anything bigger than toddlers comfortably.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 10:20:48 AM
Quote
QuoteWill it come with a surgeon to amputate your legs to fit back there?
And your neck for that matter. What is the point of a 3rd row that is too small for anyone to use?
Bragging rights.  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: 850CSi on August 15, 2005, 10:20:50 AM
Let's see if they can make it look even better than the X3, which, like the 5-Series, has an EXCELLENT design with the exception of the front.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on August 15, 2005, 02:23:36 PM
I see a bit of Tribeca in it.  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 02:33:03 PM
Quote
QuoteWill it come with a surgeon to amputate your legs to fit back there?
Not like any 3rd row is meant to fit anything bigger than toddlers comfortably.
There are many 3rd rows that are comfortable for adults.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 02:35:05 PM
Switch that to passable. It depends on how much space you need to feel comfortable.  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 02:38:51 PM
True, because as I have mentioned before I have never found a 3rd row that I've liked, but the same can be said of 2nd rows (except for conversion vans).
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 02:45:07 PM
QuoteTrue, because as I have mentioned before I have never found a 3rd row that I've liked, but the same can be said of 2nd rows (except for conversion vans).
Your standards are far too high.  <_<  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 02:46:19 PM
That isn't a reasonable thing to say, I don't expect compact cars to have 3 ft of legroom but that doesn't mean I can be comfortable in one.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 02:48:11 PM
Maybe you just need to try a few more cars' second-row seats. I recommend ultra-luxes and minivans, they should meet anyone's standards.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 02:49:36 PM
Minivans have no more room than large suvs and for the most part large lux cars are the same way.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: Raza on August 15, 2005, 02:50:05 PM
Get into the back of a W140.  If you're not taller than Shaq, you can stretch out.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 02:59:21 PM
Doesn't seem all that large to me:
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/azdealer/DSC00197.JPG)
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 02:59:46 PM
QuoteMinivans have no more room than large suvs and for the most part large lux cars are the same way.
You've tried them out? Specifically check out the A8L, 750iL, and LS430, and the Odyssey, Quest, and Sienna. All great second-row seats IMO, well-shaped and roomy.  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 03:03:58 PM
I've sat in minivans, nothing impressive imho. I haven't sat in large lux cars but many of them do look big enough.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: Raza on August 15, 2005, 03:05:29 PM
QuoteDoesn't seem all that large to me:
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/azdealer/DSC00197.JPG)
You've never been in one.  

Is that the short wheelbase?  Because they sold a short wheelbase model.  Our S320 is a long wheelbase, and if I'm behind my mom, I can lay down, but I can still stretch out behind anyone else.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 03:06:42 PM
QuoteI've sat in minivans, nothing impressive imho. I haven't sat in large lux cars but many of them do look big enough.
Which ones?  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: Raghavan on August 15, 2005, 03:09:24 PM
looks a wee bit small.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 03:30:55 PM
Quote
QuoteDoesn't seem all that large to me:
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/azdealer/DSC00197.JPG)
You've never been in one.  

Is that the short wheelbase?  Because they sold a short wheelbase model.  Our S320 is a long wheelbase, and if I'm behind my mom, I can lay down, but I can still stretch out behind anyone else.
I assume it is a lwb (it is a S500). This is the kind of room I like:
(http://i9.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/a3/72/3e_3.JPG)

And, ifcar, i have been in Grand Caravans/Voyagers/TCs, Ventures, and Windstars. They may not have as much room as the import competition but they can't be that far behind.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 03:36:03 PM
You'd be surprised, actually. There's quite a difference.  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: Raza on August 15, 2005, 04:05:50 PM
Well, Tim, I can move the seat all the way forward in the W140 and take a picture too.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 04:08:01 PM
That front seat isn't all the way forward, in fact it looks to be all the way back (look at the b-pillar).
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: BMWDave on August 15, 2005, 04:08:29 PM
QuoteThat front seat isn't all the way forward, in fact it looks to be all the way back (look at the b-pillar).
What about this?

(http://www.bmwworld.com/models/years/2003/745li.jpg)
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 04:08:29 PM
Raza, conversion vans really do have that amount of space, no matter where you put the seat. They are massive vehicles that are more space-efficient than comparably-sized SUVs, leading to incredible interior space.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: Raza on August 15, 2005, 04:09:33 PM
QuoteThat front seat isn't all the way forward, in fact it looks to be all the way back (look at the b-pillar).
Then the second row moves, because it looks like the other seat is closer than that one.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: Raza on August 15, 2005, 04:10:25 PM
QuoteRaza, conversion vans really do have that amount of space, no matter where you put the seat. They are massive vehicles that are more space-efficient than comparably-sized SUVs, leading to incredible interior space.
I know, but he's looking at a picture and saying that the W140 doesn't have a lot of space, and I grew up in the back of a W140.  I know there's more space than most people need.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 04:11:10 PM
Quote
QuoteThat front seat isn't all the way forward, in fact it looks to be all the way back (look at the b-pillar).
Then the second row moves, because it looks like the other seat is closer than that one.
No it doesn't, the right seat is farther back because people enter on that side while the left seat is closer to the front of the vehicle for a better compromise between 2nd and 3rd row room.
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: TBR on August 15, 2005, 04:11:58 PM
Quote
QuoteThat front seat isn't all the way forward, in fact it looks to be all the way back (look at the b-pillar).
What about this?

(http://www.bmwworld.com/models/years/2003/745li.jpg)
The long wheel base 7-series definitely has plenty of room, even enough for me :)
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: ifcar on August 15, 2005, 04:12:11 PM
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QuoteRaza, conversion vans really do have that amount of space, no matter where you put the seat. They are massive vehicles that are more space-efficient than comparably-sized SUVs, leading to incredible interior space.
I know, but he's looking at a picture and saying that the W140 doesn't have a lot of space, and I grew up in the back of a W140.  I know there's more space than most people need.
TBR said earlier in this thread that he wasn't comfortable in any normal second-row seat, he obviously wants more space than you do.  
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: BMWDave on August 15, 2005, 04:13:15 PM
Check out how much room it has :o

(http://speedycars.chinacars.com/wallpaper2/bmw/BMW%20745Li%20E66%202002%20-%20009.jpg)
Title: Lots of New X5 Pics
Post by: Raza on August 15, 2005, 04:38:15 PM
750Li: 43.4"  Big.
W140:  39.6"  Still bigger than the Rolls Phantom.